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Re: AMA Numeric In-Text Citation Format and MSWord

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Re: AMA Numeric In-Text Citation Format and MSWord
Author: Gloria S Boone    Posted: Tuesday October 23rd, 2007 4:45P

Hello to all on an old, but tiresome problem......

I am having the same problem that Jamie had below and hoping someone can
help. When I start to generate a new bibliography which should be
totally automatic, it will generate the bibliography, but leave the
in-text citations with the author name/date. Sometimes when it goes to
the select matching reference screen just after generate bibliography
command, if I click to ignore it will go ahead and add all but one of
the references that is in the text of the manuscript. I end up with all
but a single reference done correctly which for some reason RefMan
doesn't seem to like.

Any help/insight is greatly appreciated.

Gloria Boone
Clinical Research, GSK




"JChriqui"
Sent by: "listmaster"
04-Apr-2006 20:45 To "RIS-List"
cc
Subject <RefMan> AMA Numeric In-Text Citation Format and
Word 2000
Please respond to "ris-list"






Hello to all. Please excuse what is going to be a very basic question
but I'm new to RefMan and am trying to use the AMA numeric in-text
citation format in my Word manuscript. I have Word open, I have the
RefMan database open, and I can get the bibliography to generate a
numeric bibliography in citation order but for some reason, I can only
get the in-text citations to come in with Author, Year, RefId (the
default in-text citation formats).

Here's an example of what I want to have my in-text citation look like:

and safety standards.1 (with the 1 superscript)

Here's what I'm ending up with:

and safety standards.{Corrigan, Eden, et al. 2002 2333 /id}

Can anyone assist me? I know it's going to be a very simple thing but
I've wasted far too much time at this point trying to figure it out!

Thanks, in advance.

Jamie Chriqui

RE: AMA Numeric In-Text Citation Format and MSWord
Author: Sandra Smith    Posted: Monday October 29th, 2007 3:50PM


It maybe an extra "special" character problem:

I had this problem recently and figured out that citations remaining had
an additional / within the authors of the article, for example {NIMH
Collaborative HIV/STD Prevention Trial Group, 2007 2837 /id}, which ref.
mgr. saw as the "signal" that what followed was the ID of that citation.
Of course, it couldn't find the word in the ID field, so it brought up
the match reference box. To test it, I removed the / from the citation
and the bibliography was generated without a hitch.

Also, in CWYW preferences, the "Temporary Citations" setting is Author
Date RefID. The citations have FIRST author only, {Rogers, 2005 2809
/id; Jones, 2000 20 /id}, unlike yours that shows two. In this instance,
the extra comma may be the culprit

Sandra Smith
Clinical Research, UPenn

"gloria.s.boone" wrote:
Hello to all on an old, but tiresome problem......

I am having the same problem that Jamie had below and hoping
someone can
help. When I start to generate a new bibliography which should
be
totally automatic, it will generate the bibliography, but leave
the
in-text citations with the author name/date. Sometimes when it
goes to
the select matching reference screen just after generate
bibliography
command, if I click to ignore it will go ahead and add all but
one of
the references that is in the text of the manuscript. I end up
with all
but a single reference done correctly which for some reason
RefMan
doesn't seem to like.

Any help/insight is greatly appreciated.

Gloria Boone
Clinical Research, GSK




"JChriqui"
Sent by: "listmaster"
04-Apr-2006 20:45 To "RIS-List"
cc
Subject <RefMan> AMA Numeric In-Text Citation
Format and
Word 2000
Please respond to "ris-list"







Hello to all. Please excuse what is going to be a very basic
question
but I'm new to RefMan and am trying to use the AMA numeric
in-text
citation format in my Word manuscript. I have Word open, I have
the
RefMan database open, and I can get the bibliography to generate
a
numeric bibliography in citation order but for some reason, I
can only
get the in-text citations to come in with Author, Year, RefId
(the
default in-text citation formats).

Here's an example of what I want to have my in-text citation
look like:

and safety standards.1 (with the 1 superscript)

Here's what I'm ending up with:

and safety standards.{Corrigan, Eden, et al. 2002 2333 /id}

Can anyone assist me? I know it's going to be a very simple
thing but
I've wasted far too much time at this point trying to figure it
out!

Thanks, in advance.

Jamie Chriqui






RE: AMA Numeric In-Text Citation Format and MSWord
Author: Thomas    Posted: Monday November 5th, 2007 4:00PM


What it looks like to me is that you are confusing a temporary citation with a final citation.
On importing any citation from RM into Word, a temporary link is made between the reference record in RM and the 'stakeholder' (=temporary citation) in Word. That stakeholder (or temporary citation) is of the type {Rogers, 2005 2809 /id; Jones, 2000 20 /id}.
In this case, it tells us to look for the references with author=Rogers&pubyear=2005&RefID=2809 and author=Jones&pubyear=2000&RefID=20.
As long as you're editing the document and adding references, you should keep doing this (it's temporary, remember). [I even type the temporary citations manually as this goes far faster when getting some experience]
On finishing the document, all you have to do is choose 'Generate bibliography' in the RefMan-menu (Extra à RM). In the popup you can choose your style, your lay-out and a bunch of other things (amongst them the possibility to omit authors or pubyears in some in-text-citations). In the same popup, choose the style that uses a numeric bibliography (e.g. AMA numeric format) to use numbers. The temporary citations (like referred to in the previous paragraph) will automatically be replaced by a number.
You can generate your bibliography on any occasion, but I tend to do so once in writing a paper (right at the end, after first personal review). I had some awry experiences on using the function (generate bibliography) to often. Things like your word document closing without asking/saving, you computer crashing because word-outlook uses to much memory,...
Check your document in the end for any mistakes. You can easily browse amongst the references in the Edit citations... menu under Extra à RefMan.
When you decide your paper is finished, I suggest you take a copy (to use for any future editing) and you erase all your field codes. Until you do so, a temporary RM-database is stored within the word-document itself. That means all data (such as abstract, author affiliations, ...; including data you don't actually need) is saved in the background of your word-document, making it larger than it should be. There could also be all sorts of nasty things happening to your doc when you send it to someone else for review.
Field codes (in the background) can be removed by choosing 'Remove field codes' in the RM-menu. When you do this, every link with RM is broken and all that remains is plain text! That's why you should always take a copy for any future reference editing (for the field codes remain in place in that document).
Hope this helps a bit,
Thomas
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-----Original Message-----
From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of Sandra.Smith "sandra3"
Sent: maandag 29 oktober 2007 1:00
To: "ris-list"
Subject: RE: <RefMan> AMA Numeric In-Text Citation Format and MSWord
It maybe an extra "special" character problem:
I had this problem recently and figured out that citations remaining had
an additional / within the authors of the article, for example {NIMH
Collaborative HIV/STD Prevention Trial Group, 2007 2837 /id}, which ref.
mgr. saw as the "signal" that what followed was the ID of that citation.
Of course, it couldn't find the word in the ID field, so it brought up
the match reference box. To test it, I removed the / from the citation
and the bibliography was generated without a hitch.
Also, in CWYW preferences, the "Temporary Citations" setting is Author
Date RefID. The citations have FIRST author only, {Rogers, 2005 2809
/id; Jones, 2000 20 /id}, unlike yours that shows two. In this instance,
the extra comma may be the culprit
Sandra Smith
Clinical Research, UPenn
"gloria.s.boone" wrote:
Hello to all on an old, but tiresome problem......
I am having the same problem that Jamie had below and hoping
someone can
help. When I start to generate a new bibliography which should
be
totally automatic, it will generate the bibliography, but leave
the
in-text citations with the author name/date. Sometimes when it
goes to
the select matching reference screen just after generate
bibliography
command, if I click to ignore it will go ahead and add all but
one of
the references that is in the text of the manuscript. I end up
with all
but a single reference done correctly which for some reason
RefMan
doesn't seem to like.
Any help/insight is greatly appreciated.
Gloria Boone
Clinical Research, GSK
"JChriqui"
Sent by: "listmaster"
04-Apr-2006 20:45 To "RIS-List"
cc
Subject <RefMan> AMA Numeric In-Text Citation
Format and
Word 2000
Please respond to "ris-list"
Hello to all. Please excuse what is going to be a very basic
question
but I'm new to RefMan and am trying to use the AMA numeric
in-text
citation format in my Word manuscript. I have Word open, I have
the
RefMan database open, and I can get the bibliography to generate
a
numeric bibliography in citation order but for some reason, I
can only
get the in-text citations to come in with Author, Year, RefId
(the
default in-text citation formats).
Here's an example of what I want to have my in-text citation
look like:
and safety standards.1 (with the 1 superscript)
Here's what I'm ending up with:
and safety standards.{Corrigan, Eden, et al. 2002 2333 /id}
Can anyone assist me? I know it's going to be a very simple
thing but
I've wasted far too much time at this point trying to figure it
out!
Thanks, in advance.
Jamie Chriqui

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