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Author: Craig Savel    Posted: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:00:50 -0400
the Quick Search? Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:35:00 -0800 Sender: "listmaster" Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "ris-list" Hello, long time lurker rare poster. Sorry if this has been asked before or if my query is naive. I am not versed in Reference Manager. Our end users want to be able to search for indexed fields, non-indexed fields, or authors from the Quick Search in Refman Web Publisher. So far so good, but they often forget, even though it is spelled out in large text, to add the * to do that. Is there a way, programmatically, to add the * or have the * implied? I can just force users to the advanced search, but the refrain from our users is "When I type something in in Google I get results, why can't it be like that?" Thanks! Craig Savel Population Council "csavel"

Re: [Bulk] Web Publisher - SEARCHES
Author: Norman Sandfield    Posted: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:42:14 -0400
Finally, something up my alley of curiosity that addresses, or at least raises, one of my biggest problems with RefMan: Advanced Search that searches for data in all/multiple fields. I learned how to Search in EndNote and am going crazy trying to write out instructions for how users of my on-line data base can search it and get the same logical results that I do. Here is my current instruction for this: To search for 2 different words in 2 fields (such as articles written by Virginia Atchley about Mitsuhiro): Atchley* All Non-Indexed Fields OR Atchley* All Indexed Fields AND Mitsuhiro* All Non-Indexed Fields OR Mitsuhiro* All Indexed Fields I understand Boolean math and symbols, but with Indexed Fields, All Non-Indexed Text Fields, And, Or, etc, I cannot get consistency in searches that match similar searches of the identical database in Endnote. I I started in Endnote and continue to enter all of my data in EndNote, then transfer it to Reference Manager to put it out on the Internet as an on-line database, since that feature in EndNote was cancelled many years ago. The book was not helpful, tech support was nice, but not helpful, and I am told that I am virtually the only non-academic using these products, thus not giving me the University support that many of you have. If I have not phrased this properly, I will try again. Sincerely, Norman Sandfield Chicago "norman" At 05:00 PM 7/20/2006, you wrote: >the Quick Search? > >Hello, long time lurker rare poster. Sorry if this has been asked >before or if my query is naive. I am not versed in Reference Manager. > >Our end users want to be able to search for indexed fields, non-indexed >fields, or authors from the Quick Search in Refman Web Publisher. So >far so good, but they often forget, even though it is spelled out in >large text, to add the * to do that. Is there a way, programmatically, >to add the * or have the * implied? I can just force users to the >advanced search, but the refrain from our users is "When I type >something in in Google I get results, why can't it be like that?" > >Thanks! >Craig Savel >Population Council > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: >7/20/2006 Norman L. Sandfield TEL: (773) 327-1733 3150 N. Sheridan Road , #10B FAX: (773) 327-1791 Chicago, IL 60657-4838 "norman" Internet site: www.internetsuke.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 7/20/2006

Re: [Bulk] Web Publisher - SEARCHES
Author:    Posted: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:05:54 -0400
If I understand you correctly, you can do: {Atchley*} AND {Mitsuhiro*} All Non-Indexed Fields OR {Atchley*} AND {Mitsuhiro*} All Indexed Fields Jeanie Woodruff Coordinator, Department Publications Department of Symptom Research The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center Houston, Texas 713-745-1981 Norman.Sandfield[norman@sandfi eld.org] To: Sent by: "RIS-LIST" "listmaster" cc: 07/21/2006 02:42 PM Please respond to ris-list Subject: Re: [Bulk] <RefMan> Web Publisher - SEARCHES Finally, something up my alley of curiosity that addresses, or at least raises, one of my biggest problems with RefMan: Advanced Search that searches for data in all/multiple fields. I learned how to Search in EndNote and am going crazy trying to write out instructions for how users of my on-line data base can search it and get the same logical results that I do. Here is my current instruction for this: To search for 2 different words in 2 fields (such as articles written by Virginia Atchley about Mitsuhiro): Atchley* All Non-Indexed Fields OR Atchley* All Indexed Fields AND Mitsuhiro* All Non-Indexed Fields OR Mitsuhiro* All Indexed Fields I understand Boolean math and symbols, but with Indexed Fields, All Non-Indexed Text Fields, And, Or, etc, I cannot get consistency in searches that match similar searches of the identical database in Endnote. I I started in Endnote and continue to enter all of my data in EndNote, then transfer it to Reference Manager to put it out on the Internet as an on-line database, since that feature in EndNote was cancelled many years ago. The book was not helpful, tech support was nice, but not helpful, and I am told that I am virtually the only non-academic using these products, thus not giving me the University support that many of you have. If I have not phrased this properly, I will try again. Sincerely, Norman Sandfield Chicago "norman" At 05:00 PM 7/20/2006, you wrote: >the Quick Search? > >Hello, long time lurker rare poster. Sorry if this has been asked >before or if my query is naive. I am not versed in Reference Manager. > >Our end users want to be able to search for indexed fields, non-indexed >fields, or authors from the Quick Search in Refman Web Publisher. So >far so good, but they often forget, even though it is spelled out in >large text, to add the * to do that. Is there a way, programmatically, >to add the * or have the * implied? I can just force users to the >advanced search, but the refrain from our users is "When I type >something in in Google I get results, why can't it be like that?" > >Thanks! >Craig Savel >Population Council > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: >7/20/2006 Norman L. Sandfield TEL: (773) 327-1733 3150 N. Sheridan Road , #10B FAX: (773) 327-1791 Chicago, IL 60657-4838 "norman" Internet site: www.internetsuke.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 7/20/2006

Re: [Bulk] Web Publisher - SEARCHES
Author: Norman L Sandfield    Posted: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:00:55 -0400
Thank you for the reply. My computer has crashed and I am getting email through another one without access to the original data. The text you extracted from my original email is all necessary for one search. And that is the point, I have to enter two lines of search criteria for what is one simple search in Endnote. Does this answer your question? Sincerely, Norman Sandfield "jfwoodru" UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote: If I understand you correctly, you can do: {Atchley*} AND {Mitsuhiro*} All Non-Indexed Fields OR {Atchley*} AND {Mitsuhiro*} All Indexed Fields Jeanie Woodruff Coordinator, Department Publications Department of Symptom Research The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center Houston, Texas 713-745-1981 Norman.Sandfield[norman@sandfi eld.org] To: Sent by: "RIS-LIST" "listmaster" cc: 07/21/2006 02:42 PM Please respond to ris-list Subject: Re: [Bulk] Web Publisher - SEARCHES Finally, something up my alley of curiosity that addresses, or at least raises, one of my biggest problems with RefMan: Advanced Search that searches for data in all/multiple fields. I learned how to Search in EndNote and am going crazy trying to write out instructions for how users of my on-line data base can search it and get the same logical results that I do. Here is my current instruction for this: To search for 2 different words in 2 fields (such as articles written by Virginia Atchley about Mitsuhiro): Atchley* All Non-Indexed Fields OR Atchley* All Indexed Fields AND Mitsuhiro* All Non-Indexed Fields OR Mitsuhiro* All Indexed Fields I understand Boolean math and symbols, but with Indexed Fields, All Non-Indexed Text Fields, And, Or, etc, I cannot get consistency in searches that match similar searches of the identical database in Endnote. I I started in Endnote and continue to enter all of my data in EndNote, then transfer it to Reference Manager to put it out on the Internet as an on-line database, since that feature in EndNote was cancelled many years ago. The book was not helpful, tech support was nice, but not helpful, and I am told that I am virtually the only non-academic using these products, thus not giving me the University support that many of you have. If I have not phrased this properly, I will try again. Sincerely, Norman Sandfield Chicago "norman" At 05:00 PM 7/20/2006, you wrote: >the Quick Search? > >Hello, long time lurker rare poster. Sorry if this has been asked >before or if my query is naive. I am not versed in Reference Manager. > >Our end users want to be able to search for indexed fields, non-indexed >fields, or authors from the Quick Search in Refman Web Publisher. So >far so good, but they often forget, even though it is spelled out in >large text, to add the * to do that. Is there a way, programmatically, >to add the * or have the * implied? I can just force users to the >advanced search, but the refrain from our users is "When I type >something in in Google I get results, why can't it be like that?" > >Thanks! >Craig Savel >Population Council > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: >7/20/2006 Norman L. Sandfield TEL: (773) 327-1733 3150 N. Sheridan Road , #10B FAX: (773) 327-1791 Chicago, IL 60657-4838 "norman" Internet site: www.internetsuke.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 7/20/2006

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