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Author: Jenny Woodman    Posted: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:19:43 -0500
Hi all, I am using reference manager 11 with word, cite as you write for a long document. When I delete a chunk of text with a reference contained in it, the references do not re-order themselves and the deleted reference remains in the reference list (even when list is re-generated). So, for example, my first reference is currently numbered (2) and the reference list has an references from a previous draft as (1) Any body had the same problem / know any answers? Thank you Jenny

re: deleting references
Author: Torgrim    Posted: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:27:35 -0500
Never delete references this way when using CWYW - there are hidden fieldcodes that remains and corrupt your document. Use (click reference in text) Edit Citation > Remove, or unformat document (Revert to text) and then you can delete the normal way, and regenerate the reference list. You can fix your corrupted document by choosing Tools > Options > Show Fieldcodes, and then manually delete the remaining fieldcodes in the part of your documennt that you deleted. Hope this helps. Best regards, Torgrim Sandvoll www.alfasoft.no

re: deleting references
Author: Faith C Donald    Posted: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:36:34 -0500
Hello Jenny, In order to delete references, I have found it best to revert to original text, then delete the reference or section, then regenerate the bib list. Faith ------------------------------------------- Faith Donald, RN(EC); PhD Student Junior Faculty Award, CHSRF/CIHR Chair in Advanced Practice Nursing McMaster University 1200 Main St West, HSC 3N25A Hamilton, ON L8N 3Z5 (905) 525-9140 ext 22221 "fdonald" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny.Woodman" To: "RIS-LIST" Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: <RefMan> deleting references > > Hi all, > > I am using reference manager 11 with word, cite as you write for a long > document. When I delete a chunk of text with a reference contained in > it, the references do not re-order themselves and the deleted reference > remains in the reference list (even when list is re-generated). So, for > example, my first reference is currently numbered (2) and the reference > list has an references from a previous draft as (1) > > Any body had the same problem / know any answers? > > Thank you > Jenny > >

re: deleting references
Author: Sarah Normandin    Posted: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:31:29 -0500
Hello Jenny, It might be one or both of the following: (1) When you delete references, it's best to use the Edit Citation(s) feature on the toolbar, then delete the rest of the text. Highlight the reference, click on Edit Citation(s), then select the reference you want to delete & click on Delete. If you are deleting references the regular way, the order can be ruined. (2) Sometimes the first reference appears as (2) if there is a reference hidden in a comment or textbox somewhere. See the RefMan FAQ here: http://www.refman.com/support/faqs/CWYW/faq12.asp I hope this helps! Sarah Sarah Normandin, B.Sc., MLIS Information Specialist, Library and Information Services Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH) 600 - 865 Carling Ave Ottawa ON K1S 5S8 Tel: (613) 226-2553 ext. 272 Fax: (613) 226-5392 Email: "sarahcn" http://www.cadth.ca -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Jenny.Woodman" Sent: February 2, 2007 7:20 PM To: "RIS-LIST" Subject: <RefMan> deleting references Hi all, I am using reference manager 11 with word, cite as you write for a long document. When I delete a chunk of text with a reference contained in it, the references do not re-order themselves and the deleted reference remains in the reference list (even when list is re-generated). So, for example, my first reference is currently numbered (2) and the reference list has an references from a previous draft as (1) Any body had the same problem / know any answers? Thank you Jenny

RE: deleting references
Author: Richard Mailman    Posted: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:30:56 -0500
I have posted this caution before, but let me do it again. In my experience, the use if the EditCitation feature on the RefMan toolbar to delete references sometimes will cause all of the references below the one being worked on to shift in position, requiring reinserting them all manually. This was a major problem in 10 & 11, but the ver. 11 patch improved it. HOWEVER, I had it happen once with the patched version (while polishing a grant during the last few hours), and after this, I now delete manually (highlight only the citation of interest, use the Revert-to-Text button, and manually delete the reference I wish to eliminate, then regenerate the bibliography). It may be that this bug is now completely fixed, but it is a disaster when it hits. Richard B. Mailman, Ph.D. "richard_mailman" Professor of Psychiatry, Pharmacology, Neurology, and Medicinal Chemistry 7001C NC Neurosciences Hospital University of North Carolina School of Medicine Chapel Hill NC 27599-7160 USA Voice 919.966.2484; FAX 919-966-9604; Mobile 919.260.7976 -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Sarah.Norma??????????? Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:31 PM To: "RIS-LIST" Subject: re: <RefMan> deleting references Hello Jenny, It might be one or both of the following: (1) When you delete references, it's best to use the Edit Citation(s) feature on the toolbar, then delete the rest of the text. Highlight the reference, click on Edit Citation(s), then select the reference you want to delete & click on Delete. If you are deleting references the regular way, the order can be ruined. (2) Sometimes the first reference appears as (2) if there is a reference hidden in a comment or textbox somewhere. See the RefMan FAQ here: http://www.refman.com/support/faqs/CWYW/faq12.asp I hope this helps! Sarah Sarah Normandin, B.Sc., MLIS Information Specialist, Library and Information Services Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH) 600 - 865 Carling Ave Ottawa ON K1S 5S8 Tel: (613) 226-2553 ext. 272 Fax: (613) 226-5392 Email: "sarahcn" http://www.cadth.ca -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Jenny.Woodman" Sent: February 2, 2007 7:20 PM To: "RIS-LIST" Subject: <RefMan> deleting references Hi all, I am using reference manager 11 with word, cite as you write for a long document. When I delete a chunk of text with a reference contained in it, the references do not re-order themselves and the deleted reference remains in the reference list (even when list is re-generated). So, for example, my first reference is currently numbered (2) and the reference list has an references from a previous draft as (1) Any body had the same problem / know any answers? Thank you Jenny

RE: deleting references
Author: Jenny Woodman    Posted: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:38:10 -0500
Hi Richard, Yep, this is what happened to me. Now I will know for the future. Thanks for your help Best wishes Jenny -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of Richard.Mailman Sent: 14 February 2007 00:31 To: "RIS-LIST" Subject: RE: <RefMan> deleting references I have posted this caution before, but let me do it again. In my experience, the use if the EditCitation feature on the RefMan toolbar to delete references sometimes will cause all of the references below the one being worked on to shift in position, requiring reinserting them all manually. This was a major problem in 10 & 11, but the ver. 11 patch improved it. HOWEVER, I had it happen once with the patched version (while polishing a grant during the last few hours), and after this, I now delete manually (highlight only the citation of interest, use the Revert-to-Text button, and manually delete the reference I wish to eliminate, then regenerate the bibliography). It may be that this bug is now completely fixed, but it is a disaster when it hits. Richard B. Mailman, Ph.D. "richard_mailman" Professor of Psychiatry, Pharmacology, Neurology, and Medicinal Chemistry 7001C NC Neurosciences Hospital University of North Carolina School of Medicine Chapel Hill NC 27599-7160 USA Voice 919.966.2484; FAX 919-966-9604; Mobile 919.260.7976 -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Sarah.Norma??????????? Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:31 PM To: "RIS-LIST" Subject: re: <RefMan> deleting references Hello Jenny, It might be one or both of the following: (1) When you delete references, it's best to use the Edit Citation(s) feature on the toolbar, then delete the rest of the text. Highlight the reference, click on Edit Citation(s), then select the reference you want to delete & click on Delete. If you are deleting references the regular way, the order can be ruined. (2) Sometimes the first reference appears as (2) if there is a reference hidden in a comment or textbox somewhere. See the RefMan FAQ here: http://www.refman.com/support/faqs/CWYW/faq12.asp I hope this helps! Sarah Sarah Normandin, B.Sc., MLIS Information Specialist, Library and Information Services Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH) 600 - 865 Carling Ave Ottawa ON K1S 5S8 Tel: (613) 226-2553 ext. 272 Fax: (613) 226-5392 Email: "sarahcn" http://www.cadth.ca -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Jenny.Woodman" Sent: February 2, 2007 7:20 PM To: "RIS-LIST" Subject: <RefMan> deleting references Hi all, I am using reference manager 11 with word, cite as you write for a long document. When I delete a chunk of text with a reference contained in it, the references do not re-order themselves and the deleted reference remains in the reference list (even when list is re-generated). So, for example, my first reference is currently numbered (2) and the reference list has an references from a previous draft as (1) Any body had the same problem / know any answers? Thank you Jenny

RE: deleting references
Author: Tom Mitchell    Posted: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:46:26 -0500
A huge advantage of WordPerfect over MS Word is that you can use Reveal Codes to ensure complete deletion of all the RM tags. Reveal Codes is also helpful when editing the manuscript because you can easily identify and correct any in-text citation that was inadvertently corrupted with punctuation marks. At 07:30 PM 2/13/2007, "Richard.Mailman" wrote: >I have posted this caution before, but let me do it again. In my >experience, the use if the EditCitation feature on the RefMan toolbar >to delete references sometimes will cause all of the references below >the one being worked on to shift in position, requiring reinserting >them all manually. >This was a major problem in 10 & 11, but the ver. 11 patch improved it. >HOWEVER, I had it happen once with the patched version (while polishing >a grant during the last few hours), and after this, I now delete >manually (highlight only the citation of interest, use the >Revert-to-Text button, and manually delete the reference I wish to >eliminate, then regenerate the bibliography). It may be that this bug >is now completely fixed, but it is a disaster when it hits. > > >Richard B. Mailman, Ph.D. > >Professor of Psychiatry, Pharmacology, Neurology, and Medicinal >Chemistry 7001C NC Neurosciences Hospital University of North Carolina >School of Medicine Chapel Hill NC 27599-7160 USA Voice 919.966.2484; >FAX 919-966-9604; Mobile 919.260.7976 > >-----Original Message----- >From: "listmaster" > "mailto:listmaster" >On Behalf Of "Sarah.Norma??????????? >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:31 PM >To: "RIS-LIST" >Subject: re: <RefMan> deleting references > > >Hello Jenny, > >It might be one or both of the following: > >(1) When you delete references, it's best to use the Edit Citation(s) >feature on the toolbar, then delete the rest of the text. Highlight the >reference, click on Edit Citation(s), then select the reference you >want to delete & click on Delete. >If you are deleting references the regular way, the order can be ruined. > > >(2) Sometimes the first reference appears as (2) if there is a >reference hidden in a comment or textbox somewhere. See the RefMan FAQ here: >http://www.refman.com/support/faqs/CWYW/faq12.asp > >I hope this helps! >Sarah > >Sarah Normandin, B.Sc., MLIS >Information Specialist, Library and Information Services Canadian >Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH) 600 - 865 Carling >Ave Ottawa ON K1S >5S8 >Tel: (613) 226-2553 ext. 272 >Fax: (613) 226-5392 >Email: "sarahcn" >http://www.cadth.ca > > >-----Original Message----- >From: "listmaster" > "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of > >Sent: February 2, 2007 7:20 PM >To: "RIS-LIST" >Subject: <RefMan> deleting references > > >Hi all, > >I am using reference manager 11 with word, cite as you write for a long >document. When I delete a chunk of text with a reference contained in >it, the references do not re-order themselves and the deleted reference >remains in the reference list (even when list is re-generated). So, for >example, my first reference is currently numbered (2) and the reference >list has an references from a previous draft as (1) > >Any body had the same problem / know any answers? > >Thank you >Jenny

RE: deleting references
Author: George Grimble    Posted: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:39:10 -0500
I agree with Tom about the advantage of WordPerfect. In fact I've just sent a paper to a journal. It was written in WordPerfect, reference list generated - bugs removed (there was one) and then saved in MS Word format to send to the journal who only accept MS Word documents. It is very useful to be able to see the formatting and remove or repair any corruptions to an in-text citation. George Grimble Tom.Mitchell "Tom.Mitchell" wrote: >A huge advantage of WordPerfect over MS Word is that you can use Reveal >Codes to ensure complete deletion of all the RM tags. Reveal Codes is >also helpful when editing the manuscript because you can easily >identify and correct any in-text citation that was inadvertently >corrupted with punctuation marks. > > >At 07:30 PM 2/13/2007, "Richard.Mailman" wrote: > > > >>I have posted this caution before, but let me do it again. In my >>experience, the use if the EditCitation feature on the RefMan toolbar >>to delete references sometimes will cause all of the references below >>the one being worked on to shift in position, requiring reinserting >>them all manually. >>This was a major problem in 10 & 11, but the ver. 11 patch improved it. >>HOWEVER, I had it happen once with the patched version (while >>polishing >> >> > > > >>a grant during the last few hours), and after this, I now delete >>manually (highlight only the citation of interest, use the >>Revert-to-Text button, and manually delete the reference I wish to >>eliminate, then regenerate the bibliography). It may be that this bug >>is now completely fixed, but it is a disaster when it hits. >> >> >>Richard B. Mailman, Ph.D. >> >>Professor of Psychiatry, Pharmacology, Neurology, and Medicinal >>Chemistry 7001C NC Neurosciences Hospital University of North Carolina >>School of Medicine Chapel Hill NC 27599-7160 USA Voice 919.966.2484; >>FAX 919-966-9604; Mobile 919.260.7976 >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: "listmaster" >> "mailto:listmaster" >>On Behalf Of "Sarah.Norma??????????? >>Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:31 PM >>To: "RIS-LIST" >>Subject: re: <RefMan> deleting references >> >> >>Hello Jenny, >> >>It might be one or both of the following: >> >>(1) When you delete references, it's best to use the Edit Citation(s) >>feature on the toolbar, then delete the rest of the text. Highlight >>the >> >> > > > >>reference, click on Edit Citation(s), then select the reference you >>want to delete & click on Delete. >>If you are deleting references the regular way, the order can be >> >> >ruined. > > >>(2) Sometimes the first reference appears as (2) if there is a >>reference hidden in a comment or textbox somewhere. See the RefMan FAQ >> >> >here: > > >>http://www.refman.com/support/faqs/CWYW/faq12.asp >> >>I hope this helps! >>Sarah >> >>Sarah Normandin, B.Sc., MLIS >>Information Specialist, Library and Information Services Canadian >>Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH) 600 - 865 Carling >>Ave Ottawa ON K1S >>5S8 >>Tel: (613) 226-2553 ext. 272 >>Fax: (613) 226-5392 >>Email: "sarahcn" >>http://www.cadth.ca >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: "listmaster" >> "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of >> >>Sent: February 2, 2007 7:20 PM >>To: "RIS-LIST" >>Subject: <RefMan> deleting references >> >> >>Hi all, >> >>I am using reference manager 11 with word, cite as you write for a >>long >> >> > > > >>document. When I delete a chunk of text with a reference contained in >>it, the references do not re-order themselves and the deleted >>reference >> >> > > > >>remains in the reference list (even when list is re-generated). So, >>for >> >> > > > >>example, my first reference is currently numbered (2) and the >>reference >> >> > > > >>list has an references from a previous draft as (1) >> >>Any body had the same problem / know any answers? >> >>Thank you >>Jenny >> >> > > > > > >

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