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Author: Jfwoodru
Posted: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:10:00 -0800
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My experience tells me not to have the Track Changes feature engaged
when I'm working with RefMan. If I have to use Track Changes, I usually
disable Instant Formatting, too. Somehow the Track Changes feature seems
to kluge the document up along the way, and I get unexpected results
from RefMan (like having the in-text citations shift forward). Also, you
have to go through about 50 steps of Undo if Instant Formatting kicks in
when you make a change that you then want to undo.
Jeanie Woodruff
Department of Symptom Research
The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center Houston, Texas
713-745-1981
Faith.Donald "fdonald"
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Re: <RefMan>
Unable to cut the cord between RefMan and Word
I'm not sure if you have already tried this, but....
Try reverting to original text and deleting all refman field codes,
accept all changes in the Tools > Track Changes and then save.
Good luck with this and please let me know if it works, Faith
"Weir" wrote:
>Hi,
>We have a document that has gone through several reviewers, some who
>use RefMan, others who don't. At one point in the process we attempted
>to remove the field codes so that any changes would be made manually
>and no longer connected to a RefMan database. Whereas it appeared that
>the cord had been cut, it hadn't and when users opened the document, a
>whole new set of references would be added at the end as if RefMan was
>still working.
> I can not figure out how to do it other than just move all the text
>into a .txt file and then replace in a Word Document. But that isn't
>going to happen due to formatting issues.
>
>My one sneaking suspicion is that when MS Word Comments were added to
>the reference section (basically indicating missing information in a
>reference bibliography), that it somehow made it impossible to truly
>cut the cord between refman and Word.
>
>Is there any foolproof way of knowing or doing this? Anyone else
>encounter problems?
>I know RefMan is still active because there is some coding still
>visible and when rt. clicking on a reference, it allows us to still
>edit the field --and it highlights the entire section of references.
>
>And finally--has anyone written guidelines on Document Flow and RefMan
>use? We have some informal guidelines, but it has been very problematic
>in a collaborative environment.
>
>
>
>
>
--
Faith Donald, RN(EC); MS(CHN), Ph.D. Student, PHCNP Assistant Professor,
Primary Health Care, Ryerson University Seconded to the CHSRF/CIHR
Advanced Practice Nursing Chair McMaster University, School of Nursing
HSC 3H48 1200 Main St W Hamilton, ON L8N 3Z5
(905)525-9140 ext. 22221
"fdonald"
"Hospitals are but an intermediate stage of civilization...
the ultimate object is to nurse all sick at home."
Florence Nightingale
The Times, April 14, 1876
http://www.florence-nightingale.co.uk
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| RE: Caution on using Word's Track Changes and RefMan |
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Author: Peter Myler
Posted: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:55:00 -0800
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I second the advice of turning off Track Changes when using Instant
Formatting and/or vice versa, as Refman does not seem to do deal with
the hidden text very well. I usually use Track Changes to come up with
an agreed upon versions, then accepted all changes, and run the
Bibliography with Track Changes turned off. Then repeat for the next
version.
Peter
Peter J. Myler, Ph.D.
Member
SBRI
307 Westlake Ave N., Suite 500
Seattle, WA 98109-5219
USA
(206) 256-7332 (office)
(206) 256-7229 (FAX)
"peter.myler"
"mylerpj"
Research Professor
Department of Pathobiology
and
Division of Biomedical and Health Informatics Department of Medical
Education and Biomedical Informatics University of Washington Seattle,
WA 98195 Box 357238 "mylerpj"
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Subject: <RefMan> Caution on using Word's Track Changes and RefMan
My experience tells me not to have the Track Changes feature engaged
when I'm working with RefMan. If I have to use Track Changes, I usually
disable Instant Formatting, too. Somehow the Track Changes feature seems
to kluge the document up along the way, and I get unexpected results
from RefMan (like having the in-text citations shift forward). Also, you
have to go through about 50 steps of Undo if Instant Formatting kicks in
when you make a change that you then want to undo.
Jeanie Woodruff
Department of Symptom Research
The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center Houston, Texas
713-745-1981
Faith.Donald "fdonald"
a] To:
Sent by:
"RIS-List"
"listmaster" cc:
02/09/2006 06:35 PM
Please respond to ris-list
Subject:
Re: <RefMan>
Unable to cut the cord between RefMan and Word
I'm not sure if you have already tried this, but....
Try reverting to original text and deleting all refman field codes,
accept all changes in the Tools > Track Changes and then save.
Good luck with this and please let me know if it works, Faith
"Weir" wrote:
>Hi,
>We have a document that has gone through several reviewers, some who
>use RefMan, others who don't. At one point in the process we attempted
>to remove the field codes so that any changes would be made manually
>and no longer connected to a RefMan database. Whereas it appeared that
>the cord had been cut, it hadn't and when users opened the document, a
>whole new set of references would be added at the end as if RefMan was
>still working.
> I can not figure out how to do it other than just move all the text
>into a .txt file and then replace in a Word Document. But that isn't
>going to happen due to formatting issues.
>
>My one sneaking suspicion is that when MS Word Comments were added to
>the reference section (basically indicating missing information in a
>reference bibliography), that it somehow made it impossible to truly
>cut the cord between refman and Word.
>
>Is there any foolproof way of knowing or doing this? Anyone else
>encounter problems?
>I know RefMan is still active because there is some coding still
>visible and when rt. clicking on a reference, it allows us to still
>edit the field --and it highlights the entire section of references.
>
>And finally--has anyone written guidelines on Document Flow and RefMan
>use? We have some informal guidelines, but it has been very problematic
>in a collaborative environment.
>
>
>
>
>
--
Faith Donald, RN(EC); MS(CHN), Ph.D. Student, PHCNP Assistant Professor,
Primary Health Care, Ryerson University Seconded to the CHSRF/CIHR
Advanced Practice Nursing Chair McMaster University, School of Nursing
HSC 3H48 1200 Main St W Hamilton, ON L8N 3Z5
(905)525-9140 ext. 22221
"fdonald"
"Hospitals are but an intermediate stage of civilization...
the ultimate object is to nurse all sick at home."
Florence Nightingale
The Times, April 14, 1876
http://www.florence-nightingale.co.uk
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