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Copy the RefID into another field

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Copy the RefID into another field
Author: Rainer M Krug    Posted: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:15:00 -0800

Hi

I want to switch from numerical RefID to the AuthorYear principle, but I
have to keep the number as many articles are already filed with the
RefID and I don't want to change that at the moment.
I found the "Move Field", but I can't do it as I can't delete the RefID
("Copy Field" only copies one value into all records). Any ideas on how
I can copy the field values?

Rainer

SV: Copy the RefID into another field
Author: Peter Malling    Posted: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:35:00 -0800

I'm not exactly sure if this answers your problem, but if the problem is
that RefID is read-only, you can make it editable by disabling
Tools|Options|Reference Edit|Assign Reference ID.

Peter.

> I want to switch from numerical RefID to the AuthorYear principle, but
I
> have to keep the number as many articles are already filed with the
> RefID and I don't want to change that at the moment.
> I found the "Move Field", but I can't do it as I can't delete the
RefID
> ("Copy Field" only copies one value into all records). Any ideas on
how
> I can copy the field values?

Re: Copy the RefID into another field
Author: Mariël Volckaert    Posted: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:30:00 -0800

Hello Rainer

I think I have a solution for your RefId (copy)problem ... You can't solve it in Reference Manager, because you can't copy or move the RefId field into another field.
So, I propose you try next steps:

LAUNCH REFERENCE MANAGER

1 Make a new RM database
2 Choose Tools/Options/ and change the Reference ID Assignment Mode into 'Authors,primary + Date,primary'.
3 Open the old database
4 Choose File/Export
5 In the dialog, you choose the RIS-format and you select 'all files'.

LAUNCH WORDPAD or NOTEPAD

1 Open the txt-file you saved in step 5.
2 Choose Edit/Replace
3 The 'Replace' dialog appears.
4 In the 'Find' box, you enter following data:
ID -
Which means: ID space space dash
In the 'Replace' box, you enter following data:
U1 -
Which means: U1 space space dash
5 Click the 'Replace all' button
6 Save the txt-file and close WordPad/NotePad

ACTIVATE REFERENCE MANAGER

1 Choose File/Import Text File
2 The 'Import Text File' dialog appears
2 In the 'Database' box you select the new empty RM database
3 In the 'Filter' box you select the RIS filter
4 In the 'Text file' box you select the txt file you saved in WordPad/NotePad
5 Click the 'Import' button.

Now all your imported references have an 'Authors+Date' Identification. The original numerical identification has been copied into the UserDef field.

I tried this procedure, and it worked.
Success!

Met vriendelijke groet - Best regards - Cordialement Mariël Volckaert www.ResearchSoftware.nl | mailto: "mariel" www.esdnow.com | mailto: "info"

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:15:00 -0800
Rainer.M.Krug "rkrug" wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I want to switch from numerical RefID to the AuthorYear principle, but
> I have to keep the number as many articles are already filed with the
> RefID and I don't want to change that at the moment.
> I found the "Move Field", but I can't do it as I can't delete the
> RefID ("Copy Field" only copies one value into all records). Any ideas
> on how I can copy the field values?
>
> Rainer

RE: SV: Copy the RefID into another field
Author: Becky Skidmore    Posted: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:30:00 -0800

I think the only way to do this easily is to create a new database and
export the current contents in RIS.cap format. Then you'd create a new
RIS import filter that maps the current ID to a new field (the easiest
would be to have it map to one of the user-defined fields that you are
not using).

I don't use the Author/Year method for assigning IDs but I'm assuming
that these will all re-assign appropriately during the import. The
alternative is to create a new database and first copy over the records
that now follow the author/year format. Then select the records that
used the old ID# format, export them, and import them into the same
database, using the new filter for mapping the temp ID.

Becky Skidmore
Information Specialist
CCOHTA


-----Original Message-----
From: "listmaster"
"mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of
"Peter.Malling"
Sent: December 1, 2005 7:35 PM
To: "RIS-List"
Subject: <RefMan> SV: <RefMan> Copy the RefID into another field



I'm not exactly sure if this answers your problem, but if the problem is
that RefID is read-only, you can make it editable by disabling
Tools|Options|Reference Edit|Assign Reference ID.

Peter.

> I want to switch from numerical RefID to the AuthorYear principle, but
I
> have to keep the number as many articles are already filed with the
> RefID and I don't want to change that at the moment.
> I found the "Move Field", but I can't do it as I can't delete the
RefID
> ("Copy Field" only copies one value into all records). Any ideas on
how
> I can copy the field values?

RE: Copy the RefID into another field
Author: Linda K    Posted: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:30:00 -0800

If I understand the problem, you need to export your database and then
import it into a new one that is structured with author-date, then
allocate the old RefID to one of the user-defined fields. DO NOT add the
old RefID to "keywords". When they changed how 10+ does searching, it
started looking for dates in the keywords field--a real pain in the
wazoo!!

Caution: I seem to be coming down with something so I may be
hallucinating. <g>


Karyn Popham
UCT 2676A / x9665
Sr. Res. Asst.
Center for Health Promotion and Prevention Research School of Public
Health University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston
"Linda.K.Popham"
713-500-9665

-----Original Message-----
From: "listmaster"
"mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of
Rainer.M.Krug "rkrug"
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:15 PM
To: "RIS-List"
Subject: <RefMan> Copy the RefID into another field


Hi

I want to switch from numerical RefID to the AuthorYear principle, but I
have to keep the number as many articles are already filed with the
RefID and I don't want to change that at the moment.
I found the "Move Field", but I can't do it as I can't delete the RefID
("Copy Field" only copies one value into all records). Any ideas on how
I can copy the field values?

Rainer

Re: Copy the RefID into another field
Author: Rainer M Krug    Posted: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:35:00 -0800

Hi Mariël

thanks for the tipe - I did it like that and it worked.

Rainer


Mariël.Volckaert "mariel" wrote:
> Hello Rainer
>
> I think I have a solution for your RefId (copy)problem ... You can't solve it in Reference Manager, because you can't copy or move the RefId field into another field.
> So, I propose you try next steps:
>
> LAUNCH REFERENCE MANAGER
>
> 1 Make a new RM database
> 2 Choose Tools/Options/ and change the Reference ID Assignment Mode into 'Authors,primary + Date,primary'.
> 3 Open the old database
> 4 Choose File/Export
> 5 In the dialog, you choose the RIS-format and you select 'all files'.
>
> LAUNCH WORDPAD or NOTEPAD
>
> 1 Open the txt-file you saved in step 5.
> 2 Choose Edit/Replace
> 3 The 'Replace' dialog appears.
> 4 In the 'Find' box, you enter following data:
> ID -
> Which means: ID space space dash
> In the 'Replace' box, you enter following data:
> U1 -
> Which means: U1 space space dash
> 5 Click the 'Replace all' button
> 6 Save the txt-file and close WordPad/NotePad
>
> ACTIVATE REFERENCE MANAGER
>
> 1 Choose File/Import Text File
> 2 The 'Import Text File' dialog appears
> 2 In the 'Database' box you select the new empty RM database
> 3 In the 'Filter' box you select the RIS filter
> 4 In the 'Text file' box you select the txt file you saved in
> WordPad/NotePad
> 5 Click the 'Import' button.
>
> Now all your imported references have an 'Authors+Date' Identification. The original numerical identification has been copied into the UserDef field.
>
> I tried this procedure, and it worked.
> Success!
>
> Met vriendelijke groet - Best regards - Cordialement Mariël Volckaert
> www.ResearchSoftware.nl | mailto: "mariel"
> www.esdnow.com | mailto: "info"
>
> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:15:00 -0800
> Rainer.M.Krug "rkrug" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I want to switch from numerical RefID to the AuthorYear principle,
>> but I have to keep the number as many articles are already filed with
>> the RefID and I don't want to change that at the moment.
>> I found the "Move Field", but I can't do it as I can't delete the
>> RefID ("Copy Field" only copies one value into all records). Any
>> ideas on how I can copy the field values?
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>
>
>

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