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Author: Becky Skidmore    Posted: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:20:00 -0800
Hello: I am interested in knowing how people might be using the Travelling Library. I find it odd that each instance of a citation is exported into the Travelling Library, creating multiple duplicates for records that are cited more than once. Has this caused problems for anyone or do they just de-dupe? Thanks for your assistance. Regards, Becky Skidmore, BA, MLS Information Specialist Canadian Coordinating Office for Health Technology Assessment 600-865 Carling Avenue Ottawa, ON, Canada EMail: "beckys" Tel: (613) 226-2553, ext. 228 Fax: (613) 226-5392 www.ccohta.ca

Re: Travelling Library
Author: Jfwoodru    Posted: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:30:00 -0800
I have also encountered this problem. The only solution I have is to open the RM database from which the references came (which, of course, defeats the purpose of a "traveling" library and might not always be possible to do). This does solve the problem, however, because regenerating the reference list with the database open gets rid of those duplicates. I'd be very interested to know if anyone has found a better solution. One thing I have not tried is exporting the traveling library to a new database and then regenerating the reference list from that new database. Maybe that would work (but you shouldn't have to!). Jeanie Woodruff Department of Symptom Research The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center Houston, Texas 713-745-1981 Becky.Skidmore "BeckyS" A] To: Sent by: "RIS-List" "listmaster" cc: 12/21/2005 06:20 PM Please respond to ris-list Subject: <RefMan> Travelling Library Hello: I am interested in knowing how people might be using the Travelling Library. I find it odd that each instance of a citation is exported into the Travelling Library, creating multiple duplicates for records that are cited more than once. Has this caused problems for anyone or do they just de-dupe? Thanks for your assistance. Regards, Becky Skidmore, BA, MLS Information Specialist Canadian Coordinating Office for Health Technology Assessment 600-865 Carling Avenue Ottawa, ON, Canada EMail: "beckys" Tel: (613) 226-2553, ext. 228 Fax: (613) 226-5392 www.ccohta.ca

Re: Travelling Library
Author: PhD    Posted: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:30:00 -0800
The traveling library (TL) hasn't been of much use to me. For me it has been impossible to extract it from a Word file that I received, maybe because I didn't have the database it was derived from. Then there is the duplicates problem. I just worked on a colleague's manuscript (by email), and exported the TL from the manuscript where I had generated the reference list (RM11, patched). The 41 references in the MS resulted in 62 entries in the database, some repeated 4 times. I haven't heard from my colleague whether she could import it into her EndNote, and I didn't look at it to cull the dupes from it. It is one of the many deficiencies In RM10 and its successors that appear to me (not a programmer) easy to fix, but which ISI is failing to address. Han Broekman At 07:20 PM 12/21/2005, you wrote: >Hello: > >I am interested in knowing how people might be using the Travelling >Library. I find it odd that each instance of a citation is exported >into the Travelling Library, creating multiple duplicates for records >that are cited more than once. Has this caused problems for anyone or >do they just de-dupe? > >Thanks for your assistance. > >Regards, > >Becky Skidmore, BA, MLS >Information Specialist >Canadian Coordinating Office for Health Technology Assessment >600-865 Carling Avenue >Ottawa, ON, Canada >EMail: "beckys" >Tel: (613) 226-2553, ext. 228 >Fax: (613) 226-5392 >www.ccohta.ca > ---------- M. Johan Broekman, PhD Associate Research Professor of Biochemistry in Medicine Hematology-Oncology, VA NY Harbor Healthcare System / Weill Medical College of Cornell University 423 East 23rd Street, Room 13025W New York, NY 10010 Phone: (212) 686-7500, ext 7494 FAX: (212) 951-3389 email: "mjbroek"

Re: Travelling Library
Author: Tore Nielsen    Posted: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:30:00 -0800
Becky, I have had problems with duplicates in the traveling library. One whole book citation in particular was recited in the text and the ref library as e.g., Hartmann, 1992a, 1992b....1992x. I was able to work around it by converting to original text, deleting the whole reference list and regenerating it from scratch. The problem has recurred a couple of times with the same book citation, probably because (I assume) I copied parts of an older document into a new one. I would be curious to know if there is an easier way to avoid this problem. Tore Nielsen Professor, Psychiatry, U Montreal Director Dream & Nightmare Lab Montreal Sacre-Coeur Hospital "Becky.Skidmore" UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote: Hello: I am int! erested in knowing how people might be using the Travelling Library. I find it odd that each instance of a citation is exported into the Travelling Library, creating multiple duplicates for records that are cited more than once. Has this caused problems for anyone or do they just de-dupe? Thanks for your assistance. Regards, Becky Skidmore, BA, MLS Information Specialist Canadian Coordinating Office for Health Technology Assessment 600-865 Carling Avenue Ottawa, ON, Canada EMail: "beckys" Tel: (613) 226-2553, ext. 228 Fax: (613) 226-5392 www.ccohta.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.

Re: Travelling Library
Author: Sarah Cage    Posted: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:05:00 -0800
I've found the "travelling library" an irritation rather than a help - the addition of multiple citations at the end of a paper is just an indication that the bibliography has been generated without the right database open/linked to the manuscript. But then we don't transfer manuscripts between sites with different databases. I suppose it might be useful as a temporary indication of which reference should be cited? If you remove duplicates when you edit the manuscript won't you then remove the later citations? How often does one cite each reference once only? If they are going to provide the "travelling library, there should be some mechanism to recognise duplicates and avoid repeating them, with the "a" "b" etc. after the year. Sarah Cage Senior Scientific Information Specialist National Poisons Information Service Birmingham, UK email "s.cage" > From: <"Becky.Skid???????????? > To: "RIS-List" > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:20 AM > Subject: <RefMan> Travelling Library > > >> >> Hello: >> >> I am interested in knowing how people might be using the Travelling >> Library. I find it odd that each instance of a citation is exported >> into the Travelling Library, creating multiple duplicates for records >> that are cited more than once. Has this caused problems for anyone >> or do they just de-dupe? >> >> Thanks for your assistance. >> >> Regards, >> >> Becky Skidmore, BA, MLS >> Information Specialist >> Canadian Coordinating Office for Health Technology Assessment >> 600-865 Carling Avenue >> Ottawa, ON, Canada >> EMail: "beckys" >> Tel: (613) 226-2553, ext. 228 >> Fax: (613) 226-5392 >> www.ccohta.ca >> >> > >

Re: Travelling Library
Author: Dr Richard Mailman    Posted: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:05:00 -0800
Becky/Torre: This has been a constant problem since the inclusion of this feature with Ver. 10. If the available databases do not contain the cited reference with EXACTLY THE SAME REFERENCE ID, the program assumes they are different references and increments them with a,b,c, etc. [all of the data is contained within each citation in the document (use the ViewFieldCodes command in Word to see this). This is good so that if a section of text is deleted, the reference information remains. This is bad because the program does not attempt to reconcile duplicates except against available databases. At a minimum, there should be a way to have the cited reference merged into an available database, a temporary database be created, or other check that recognizes that the same reference is cited repeatedly (the latter certainly should be possible). A related problem is that if you format a reference (e.g., superscripts or subscripts), or if a downloaded reference has an ISI vs medline ID, they may not be recognized as duplicates by the program. If you then manually delete one from the database, any citation to the other ID will automatically give this very problem. The only solution is to replace every instance of the citation with the same reference in an available database. DO THIS USING REVERT TO ORIGINAL TEXT, NOT THE EDIT_CITATION(S) BUTTON ON THE TOOLBAR (the latter can cause what I term a "frameshift" that can move all of the references in your document to incorrect places in the text). If you do follow the latter, rather than former procedure, I can promise that you will eventually be sorry. Richard Richard B. Mailman, Ph.D. "richard_mailman" Professor of Psychiatry, Pharmacology, Neurology, and Medicinal Chemistry 7001C NC Neurosciences Hospital University of North Carolina School of Medicine Chapel Hill NC 27599-7160 USA Voice 919.966.2484; FAX 919-966-9604; Mobile 919.260.7976 -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Tore.Nielsen[???????????? Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:30 PM To: "RIS-List" Subject: Re: <RefMan> Travelling Library Becky, I have had problems with duplicates in the traveling library. One whole book citation in particular was recited in the text and the ref library as e.g., Hartmann, 1992a, 1992b....1992x. I was able to work around it by converting to original text, deleting the whole reference list and regenerating it from scratch. The problem has recurred a couple of times with the same book citation, probably because (I assume) I copied parts of an older document into a new one. I would be curious to know if there is an easier way to avoid this problem. Tore Nielsen Professor, Psychiatry, U Montreal Director Dream & Nightmare Lab Montreal Sacre-Coeur Hospital "Becky.Skidmore" UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote: Hello: I am int! erested in knowing how people might be using the Travelling Library. I find it odd that each instance of a citation is exported into the Travelling Library, creating multiple duplicates for records that are cited more than once. Has this caused problems for anyone or do they just de-dupe? Thanks for your assistance. Regards, Becky Skidmore, BA, MLS Information Specialist Canadian Coordinating Office for Health Technology Assessment 600-865 Carling Avenue Ottawa, ON, Canada EMail: "beckys" Tel: (613) 226-2553, ext. 228 Fax: (613) 226-5392 www.ccohta.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.

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