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Re: Needs for RefMan12
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Author: Andrew Hilson
Posted: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 07:47:01 +0100
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Popham, Karyn wrote:
> Dear Jeremy,
>
> Please note that there are two features at the (US) NLM site that,
> while not directly accessible through RefMan, ideally should be. I'm
> adding them to my desiderata list.
>
> If you go to http://www.nlm.nih.gov/mesh/MBrowser.html (this is
> available free of charge, worldwide, on the Internet) you can type any
> term you want into the "MeSH Browser" and be shown what the proper
> term is. For "breast cancer", for instance, the term is "breast
> neoplasms". If you scroll down the results page you'll also see the
> "trees" in which the term is nested, which will lead you to allied,
> broader, and narrower terms. I think there should be a button to the
> Mesh Browser or, alternatively, that it be listed in the drop-down
> list along with PubMed (with the default search changed to "keyword").
>
This would be VERY helpful
> Second, if you go to the PubMed site on the Web
> (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi) instead of searching
> it through RefMan, and you click on the drop-down menu for Search:
> "PubMed", you will discover, way down the list, that "Journals" and
> "MeSH" are both available. The "journals" feature allows you to in
> effect search the list of journals indexed (title to abbreviation or
> vice-versa). The "MeSH" feature basically interacts with the MeSH
> browser, but with the addition that you can ask it to add the correct
> term to your search. For instance, if I search "MeSH" for "breast
> cancer", I get back four options: Breast Neoplasms; Breast Neoplasms,
> Male; BRCA2 Protein; BRCA1 Protein. Click on "Breast Neoplasms" and
> you get the full list of acceptable subheadings, restrict and explode
> options, and a "Send to Search" with AND, NOT, and OR options.
>
> Everyone using RefMan to search PubMed needs to use the Browser,
> Search MeSH, or both to plan their search. This is a big issue
> especially when one is doing literature reviews; it's amazing how many
> researchers don't realize they aren't searching the right terms!
>
> Also, those of you using OVID or other third-party access providers to
> search PubMed or Medline: STOP. Use Reference Manager (which accesses
> PubMed
> directly) or the NLM Web site. Stop searching MEDLINE!! I don't think
people
> understand the difference, or how much more is in PubMed than in
Medline...
> If people want me to elaborate on this issue, I will, but given the length
> of this note, I'll do so only on request. [grin]
REQUESTED.........
>
> Also note that you can download MeSH from
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/mesh/filelist.html in XML or ASCII. I should
> think one could convert either to something one could then load into
> RefMan, but I have to confess this is beyond my competence. (If
> nothing else, one could create a dummy record in a .txt file and
> insert the entire list as the
> "Keywords".)
YES Please - I agree that the listing is no use as it stands, but SOMEONE
out there must have the skill (I suspect not great) to pull out just the
headings.
>
> More helpful, I think, would be to break the MeSH terms into various
> sub-lists; the complete list is not only massive but full of terms
> (such as individual gene names, or all the taxonomy entries) that many
> researchers would never need to use.
> What do the rest of you think?
>
> BTW, most people don't realize what "ACTA" in a journal title means,
> or what any journal title in Latin connotes ("ACTA" is Latin). It
> means that the journal accepts articles in any European language that
> uses the Roman alphabet. So you'll find items in English, Spanish,
> French, Portueguese, but not modern Greek.
>
> I'll shut up now...
>
> Karyn Popham
> Reference Wrangler
> Center for Health Promotion and Prevention Research
> School of Public Health
> University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston
> "Linda.K.Popham" 713-500-9665
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Cullis "mailto:j.cullis"
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:15 PM
> To: "ris-list"
> Subject: <RefMan> Needs for RefMan12
>
>
>
> What I would like to see would be a way to import a keyword term list,
> in a similar way that you can currently import a journal term list.
>
> For those of you in the Medical Sciences, you could potentially import
> a list of MeSH (Medical Subject headings) terms and their synonyms.
> Suat Tuzgol has a blank database of MeSH terms downloadable from
> <http://www.researchsoftware.nl/> http://www.researchsoftware. nl
> <http://www.researchsoftware.nl/> . It may be possibly to create a
> list of MeSH terms and their synonyms from projects such as the UMLS (
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/research/umls/umlsmain.html
> <http://www.nlm.nih.gov/research/umls/umlsmain.html> ) .
>
> For example, You could enter the term breast cancer, and pick up all
> of the citations in the selected database which have the keyword
> breast neoplasms (MeSH term).
>
> It would make the database search facility much more useful.
> Currently, you can import MeSH terms when you download citations from
> Medline, which is good, but unless you know what the correct MeSH term
> is for your concept the use of the database search facility is fairly
> limited (unless you are familiar with the MeSH terms used in a
> particular area of research).
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> Jeremy Cullis Ph. (02) 9351-5317
> Information Services Librarian Fax: (02) 9351-2427
> Medical Library DO5
> University Of Sydney
> SYDNEY NSW 2006
> Australia
> email: "j.cullis"
> web: http://www.library.usyd.edu.au/Libraries/Medical/
> <http://www.library.usyd.edu.au/Libraries/Medical/>
>
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