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RE: Needs for RefMan12

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RE: Needs for RefMan12
Author: Herbert Turner    Posted: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:13:17 -0400

Does any have an import filter for ERIC with CSA as the Service Provider?

Herb Turner
Scientific Research Project Director
The Campbell Collaboration at Penn www.campbellcollaboration.org


-----Original Message-----
From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster"
On Behalf Of Popham, Karyn
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 6:48 PM
To: "ris-list"
Subject: RE: <RefMan> Needs for RefMan12


Dear Jeremy,

Please note that there are two features at the (US) NLM site that, while not
directly accessible through RefMan, ideally should be. I'm adding them to my
desiderata list.

If you go to http://www.nlm.nih.gov/mesh/MBrowser.html (this is available
free of charge, worldwide, on the Internet) you can type any term you want
into the "MeSH Browser" and be shown what the proper term is. For "breast
cancer", for instance, the term is "breast neoplasms". If you scroll down
the results page you'll also see the "trees" in which the term is nested,
which will lead you to allied, broader, and narrower terms. I think there
should be a button to the Mesh Browser or, alternatively, that it be listed
in the drop-down list along with PubMed (with the default search changed to
"keyword").

Second, if you go to the PubMed site on the Web
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi) instead of searching it
through RefMan, and you click on the drop-down menu for Search: "PubMed",
you will discover, way down the list, that "Journals" and "MeSH" are both
available. The "journals" feature allows you to in effect search the list of
journals indexed (title to abbreviation or vice-versa). The "MeSH" feature
basically interacts with the MeSH browser, but with the addition that you
can ask it to add the correct term to your search. For instance, if I search
"MeSH" for "breast cancer", I get back four options: Breast Neoplasms;
Breast Neoplasms, Male; BRCA2 Protein; BRCA1 Protein. Click on "Breast
Neoplasms" and you get the full list of acceptable subheadings, restrict and
explode options, and a "Send to Search" with AND, NOT, and OR options.

Everyone using RefMan to search PubMed needs to use the Browser, Search
MeSH, or both to plan their search. This is a big issue especially when one
is doing literature reviews; it's amazing how many researchers don't realize
they aren't searching the right terms!

Also, those of you using OVID or other third-party access providers to
search PubMed or Medline: STOP. Use Reference Manager (which accesses PubMed
directly) or the NLM Web site. Stop searching MEDLINE!! I don't think people
understand the difference, or how much more is in PubMed than in Medline...
If people want me to elaborate on this issue, I will, but given the length
of this note, I'll do so only on request. [grin]

Also note that you can download MeSH from
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/mesh/filelist.html in XML or ASCII. I should think
one could convert either to something one could then load into RefMan, but I
have to confess this is beyond my competence. (If nothing else, one could
create a dummy record in a .txt file and insert the entire list as the
"Keywords".)

More helpful, I think, would be to break the MeSH terms into various
sub-lists; the complete list is not only massive but full of terms (such as
individual gene names, or all the taxonomy entries) that many researchers
would never need to use.

Likewise, one can download the complete list of journals, but it would be a
service to break it into at least four sections: Medical in English, Dental
in English, Veterinary in English, and other languages. Even better would be
to break the "foreign language" journals into at least a few subparts:
Spanish, French, German, other European languages, non-European languages.

What do the rest of you think?

BTW, most people don't realize what "ACTA" in a journal title means, or what
any journal title in Latin connotes ("ACTA" is Latin). It means that the
journal accepts articles in any European language that uses the Roman
alphabet. So you'll find items in English, Spanish, French, Portueguese, but
not modern Greek.

I'll shut up now...

Karyn Popham
Reference Wrangler
Center for Health Promotion and Prevention Research
School of Public Health
University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston
"Linda.K.Popham" 713-500-9665

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Cullis "mailto:j.cullis"
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:15 PM
To: "ris-list"
Subject: <RefMan> Needs for RefMan12



What I would like to see would be a way to import a keyword term list, in a
similar way that you can currently import a journal term list.

For those of you in the Medical Sciences, you could potentially import a
list of MeSH (Medical Subject headings) terms and their synonyms. Suat
Tuzgol has a blank database of MeSH terms downloadable from
<http://www.researchsoftware.nl/> http://www.researchsoftware. nl
<http://www.researchsoftware.nl/> . It may be possibly to create a list of
MeSH terms and their synonyms from projects such as the UMLS (
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/research/umls/umlsmain.html
<http://www.nlm.nih.gov/research/umls/umlsmain.html> ) .

For example, You could enter the term breast cancer, and pick up all of the
citations in the selected database which have the keyword breast neoplasms
(MeSH term).

It would make the database search facility much more useful. Currently, you
can import MeSH terms when you download citations from Medline, which is
good, but unless you know what the correct MeSH term is for your concept the
use of the database search facility is fairly limited (unless you are
familiar with the MeSH terms used in a particular area of research).

Jeremy



Jeremy Cullis Ph. (02) 9351-5317
Information Services Librarian Fax: (02) 9351-2427
Medical Library DO5
University Of Sydney
SYDNEY NSW 2006
Australia
email: "j.cullis"
web: http://www.library.usyd.edu.au/Libraries/Medical/
<http://www.library.usyd.edu.au/Libraries/Medical/>

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