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Author: Ruth M    Posted: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:50:00 -0800
Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Troels Laurell Sent: Tue 11/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hello David, I do not know if you ever received a response to this. I've done exactly what you describe, so if interested in more information please e-mail me directly. Best regards Troels _______________________________ Troels Laurell Systems Developer Library & Information Centre Novo Nordisk A/S Krogshøjvej 46 DK-2880 Bagsværd Denmark +45 4442 4200 (direct) +45 3079 4200 (mobile) "tlau" This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "David.Le.Sauvage" Sent: 23. marts 2006 01:25 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hi all, I'm new to the list and Web Publisher and was wondering if anyone knows how to create a URL for Web Publisher that would let me specify the database so that my users will only be searching one of two possible databases. I know how to specify the advanced search screen which I also want to use with the specific db. I have one community who will use one database and a completely different community who will use the other and it will only confuse them to have both available. regards -- David Le Sauvage Canadian Library of Family Medicine CFPC Library Service Rm 70D, Taylor Library University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 5B7 519-661-3170 Fax: 519-661-3880 www.cfpc.ca/clfm This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: Slow
Author: Charles Murrin    Posted: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:40:00 -0800
Hi Ruth, Do you have Cite While Your Write turned on? I usually turn it off while writing a document with very many references because of the problems you mention. I build a Bibliography as infrequently as possible. CWYW is cute but it carries a lot of overhead in cpu usage. I find it is just as easy to write a document without it. Charlie L. Charles Murrin, Ph.D. Department of Pharmacology and Experimental Neuroscience 985800 Nebraska Medical Center Omaha, NE 68198-5800 Voice: 402/559-4552 Fax: 402/559-7495 http://www.unmc.edu/pharmacology/murrin E-Mail Confidentiality Disclaimer: The information contained in this e-mail is privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) indicated above. Use or disclosure of information e-mailed in error is respectfully prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender and immediately delete the original message. Thank you. "Rettie" net.com; Ruth.M[Rm.Rettie@ To kingston.ac.uk] "RIS-List" Sent by: cc listmaster@isires earchsoft.com Subject <RefMan> Slow 04/11/2006 07:50 PM Please respond to ris-list@isiresea rchsoft.com Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Troels Laurell Sent: Tue 11/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hello David, I do not know if you ever received a response to this. I've done exactly what you describe, so if interested in more information please e-mail me directly. Best regards Troels _______________________________ Troels Laurell Systems Developer Library & Information Centre Novo Nordisk A/S Krogshøjvej 46 DK-2880 Bagsværd Denmark +45 4442 4200 (direct) +45 3079 4200 (mobile) "tlau" This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "David.Le.Sauvage" Sent: 23. marts 2006 01:25 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hi all, I'm new to the list and Web Publisher and was wondering if anyone knows how to create a URL for Web Publisher that would let me specify the database so that my users will only be searching one of two possible databases. I know how to specify the advanced search screen which I also want to use with the specific db. I have one community who will use one database and a completely different community who will use the other and it will only confuse them to have both available. regards -- David Le Sauvage Canadian Library of Family Medicine CFPC Library Service Rm 70D, Taylor Library University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 5B7 519-661-3170 Fax: 519-661-3880 www.cfpc.ca/clfm This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Slow
Author: Liga M Greenfield    Posted: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:30:00 -0800
This sounds like a Microsoft Word problem, not a Reference Manager problem. I routinely use databases of over 2000 citations without the slow-down you mention, but have experienced the lock-up you describe when integrating with WORD documents. In each case those have been due to Microsoft problems, not Refman problems. Make sure you have the latest Microsoft patches in place, assuming that you are using MS Office products. If that does not take care of it, then try resetting your computer to an earlier time prior to when you began to experience this slow-down. Liga -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Rettie" Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:50 PM To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> Slow Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Troels Laurell Sent: Tue 11/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hello David, I do not know if you ever received a response to this. I've done exactly what you describe, so if interested in more information please e-mail me directly. Best regards Troels _______________________________ Troels Laurell Systems Developer Library & Information Centre Novo Nordisk A/S Krogshøjvej 46 DK-2880 Bagsværd Denmark +45 4442 4200 (direct) +45 3079 4200 (mobile) "tlau" This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "David.Le.Sauvage" Sent: 23. marts 2006 01:25 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hi all, I'm new to the list and Web Publisher and was wondering if anyone knows how to create a URL for Web Publisher that would let me specify the database so that my users will only be searching one of two possible databases. I know how to specify the advanced search screen which I also want to use with the specific db. I have one community who will use one database and a completely different community who will use the other and it will only confuse them to have both available. regards -- David Le Sauvage Canadian Library of Family Medicine CFPC Library Service Rm 70D, Taylor Library University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 5B7 519-661-3170 Fax: 519-661-3880 www.cfpc.ca/clfm This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: Slow
Author: James    Posted: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:40:00 -0800
Hi Ruth -- I've used RM for many years on different kinds of intel-chip machines. One thing I've noticed is that the program is very intensive with respect to hogging memory, as databases can get quite large. What kind of machine,cpu,ram do you have? Cheers, Jim James A. Bassuk, PhD Associate Professor of Urology Children's Hospital and Regional Medical Center Seattle, Washington, USA www.bassuklab.org -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Rettie" Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:50 PM To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> Slow Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Troels Laurell Sent: Tue 11/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hello David, I do not know if you ever received a response to this. I've done exactly what you describe, so if interested in more information please e-mail me directly. Best regards Troels _______________________________ Troels Laurell Systems Developer Library & Information Centre Novo Nordisk A/S Krogshøjvej 46 DK-2880 Bagsværd Denmark +45 4442 4200 (direct) +45 3079 4200 (mobile) "tlau" This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "David.Le.Sauvage" Sent: 23. marts 2006 01:25 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hi all, I'm new to the list and Web Publisher and was wondering if anyone knows how to create a URL for Web Publisher that would let me specify the database so that my users will only be searching one of two possible databases. I know how to specify the advanced search screen which I also want to use with the specific db. I have one community who will use one database and a completely different community who will use the other and it will only confuse them to have both available. regards -- David Le Sauvage Canadian Library of Family Medicine CFPC Library Service Rm 70D, Taylor Library University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 5B7 519-661-3170 Fax: 519-661-3880 www.cfpc.ca/clfm This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

RE: Slow
Author: Sarah Cage    Posted: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:50:00 -0800
Are you editing in Reference Manager, or via "edit citations" in Word? Editing in Reference Manager should be faster - and a database of 500-600 references is not big enough to slow it down. With that many citations in a document however, having "instant formatting" switched on will slow down Word considerably, so it may be better to only generate the bibliography occasionally. Maybe you could break the thesis into chapters in the short term, and only bring them together at the end? 500 cited references is a lot - so the programs are likely to struggle a bit. It may also be worth closing all the other windows that are open, to give maximum space for the computer to work on the bibliography generation. Hope this helps Best wishes Sarah Cage Senior Scientific Information Specialist National Poisons Information Service Birmingham, UK email "s.cage" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rettie" <"Ruth.M[R"@kingston.ac.uk] To: "RIS-List" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:50 AM Subject: <RefMan> Slow > > Hi, > > I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find > that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode > my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? > > Ruth > >

RE: Slow
Author: Ruth M    Posted: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:55:00 -0800
I have a lot of RAM on this machine - but oddly the document is no problem on my laptop so it may be some corruption of the software. I am reluctant to reinstall the program because I have version 10 and my current disk is for 11 and a colleague had problems when she upgraded with some of her references. Ruth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of "Bassuk" Sent: Thu 13/04/2006 01:40 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> Slow Hi Ruth -- I've used RM for many years on different kinds of intel-chip machines. One thing I've noticed is that the program is very intensive with respect to hogging memory, as databases can get quite large. What kind of machine,cpu,ram do you have? Cheers, Jim James A. Bassuk, PhD Associate Professor of Urology Children's Hospital and Regional Medical Center Seattle, Washington, USA www.bassuklab.org -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Rettie" Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:50 PM To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> Slow Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Troels Laurell Sent: Tue 11/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hello David, I do not know if you ever received a response to this. I've done exactly what you describe, so if interested in more information please e-mail me directly. Best regards Troels _______________________________ Troels Laurell Systems Developer Library & Information Centre Novo Nordisk A/S Krogshøjvej 46 DK-2880 Bagsværd Denmark +45 4442 4200 (direct) +45 3079 4200 (mobile) "tlau" This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "David.Le.Sauvage" Sent: 23. marts 2006 01:25 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hi all, I'm new to the list and Web Publisher and was wondering if anyone knows how to create a URL for Web Publisher that would let me specify the database so that my users will only be searching one of two possible databases. I know how to specify the advanced search screen which I also want to use with the specific db. I have one community who will use one database and a completely different community who will use the other and it will only confuse them to have both available. regards -- David Le Sauvage Canadian Library of Family Medicine CFPC Library Service Rm 70D, Taylor Library University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 5B7 519-661-3170 Fax: 519-661-3880 www.cfpc.ca/clfm This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: Slow
Author: Ruth M    Posted: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:55:00 -0800
I think the idea of looking for word patches is worth trying - thanks Ruth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Liga.M.Greenfield "lmgreenfield" Sent: Thu 13/04/2006 01:30 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> Slow This sounds like a Microsoft Word problem, not a Reference Manager problem. I routinely use databases of over 2000 citations without the slow-down you mention, but have experienced the lock-up you describe when integrating with WORD documents. In each case those have been due to Microsoft problems, not Refman problems. Make sure you have the latest Microsoft patches in place, assuming that you are using MS Office products. If that does not take care of it, then try resetting your computer to an earlier time prior to when you began to experience this slow-down. Liga -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Rettie" Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:50 PM To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> Slow Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Troels Laurell Sent: Tue 11/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hello David, I do not know if you ever received a response to this. I've done exactly what you describe, so if interested in more information please e-mail me directly. Best regards Troels _______________________________ Troels Laurell Systems Developer Library & Information Centre Novo Nordisk A/S Krogshøjvej 46 DK-2880 Bagsværd Denmark +45 4442 4200 (direct) +45 3079 4200 (mobile) "tlau" This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "David.Le.Sauvage" Sent: 23. marts 2006 01:25 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hi all, I'm new to the list and Web Publisher and was wondering if anyone knows how to create a URL for Web Publisher that would let me specify the database so that my users will only be searching one of two possible databases. I know how to specify the advanced search screen which I also want to use with the specific db. I have one community who will use one database and a completely different community who will use the other and it will only confuse them to have both available. regards -- David Le Sauvage Canadian Library of Family Medicine CFPC Library Service Rm 70D, Taylor Library University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 5B7 519-661-3170 Fax: 519-661-3880 www.cfpc.ca/clfm This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: Slow
Author: Info    Posted: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:55:00 -0800
Hi Ruth, In some cases this might help: 1. Make backups of your original document 2. Open the backup document 3. Edit-Select all (Ctrl-A) 4. Extra/Tools-Language-Set Language 5. Set language to "English (U.S.)" 6. Check "Do not check spelling and grammar" 7. Uncheck "Detect language automatically" 8. Ok On some systems Word is switching "language" in certain documents. This has helped some of our customers to get rid of "freezing" of the document. In your case it could also be helpful if you would uncheck "Scan for temporary citations" and "Check for citation changes" via the Reference Manager CWYW preferences in Word. Good luck! -- Suat Tuzgöl DISC BV Schiphol/Heemstede (NL) P +31 (0)23 547 1855 F +31 (0)23 547 1859 E "info" I www.researchsoftware.nl I www.esdnow.com I www.esdnow.com/shop -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Rettie" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:50 AM To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> Slow Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Troels Laurell Sent: Tue 11/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hello David, I do not know if you ever received a response to this. I've done exactly what you describe, so if interested in more information please e-mail me directly. Best regards Troels _______________________________ Troels Laurell Systems Developer Library & Information Centre Novo Nordisk A/S Krogshøjvej 46 DK-2880 Bagsværd Denmark +45 4442 4200 (direct) +45 3079 4200 (mobile) "tlau" This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "David.Le.Sauvage" Sent: 23. marts 2006 01:25 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hi all, I'm new to the list and Web Publisher and was wondering if anyone knows how to create a URL for Web Publisher that would let me specify the database so that my users will only be searching one of two possible databases. I know how to specify the advanced search screen which I also want to use with the specific db. I have one community who will use one database and a completely different community who will use the other and it will only confuse them to have both available. regards -- David Le Sauvage Canadian Library of Family Medicine CFPC Library Service Rm 70D, Taylor Library University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 5B7 519-661-3170 Fax: 519-661-3880 www.cfpc.ca/clfm This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: Slow
Author: Ruth M    Posted: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:40:00 -0800
Suat, Thank you so much you. It worked. I had to go through your steps 3 - 8 about 5 times but eventually word put the whole document into UK English (which I need because I use Autocorrect based on UK English all the time). Now when I click to insert a reference it does so in seconds rather than minutes. It still takes about a minutes, however, to put in the citation. I have also had a problem when working in print layout with word repaginating and crashing every time I edit a citation. Any suggestion? Ruth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of "info" Sent: Fri 14/04/2006 01:55 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> Slow Hi Ruth, In some cases this might help: 1. Make backups of your original document 2. Open the backup document 3. Edit-Select all (Ctrl-A) 4. Extra/Tools-Language-Set Language 5. Set language to "English (U.S.)" 6. Check "Do not check spelling and grammar" 7. Uncheck "Detect language automatically" 8. Ok On some systems Word is switching "language" in certain documents. This has helped some of our customers to get rid of "freezing" of the document. In your case it could also be helpful if you would uncheck "Scan for temporary citations" and "Check for citation changes" via the Reference Manager CWYW preferences in Word. Good luck! -- Suat Tuzgöl DISC BV Schiphol/Heemstede (NL) P +31 (0)23 547 1855 F +31 (0)23 547 1859 E "info" I www.researchsoftware.nl I www.esdnow.com I www.esdnow.com/shop -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Rettie" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:50 AM To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> Slow Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Troels Laurell Sent: Tue 11/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hello David, I do not know if you ever received a response to this. I've done exactly what you describe, so if interested in more information please e-mail me directly. Best regards Troels _______________________________ Troels Laurell Systems Developer Library & Information Centre Novo Nordisk A/S Krogshøjvej 46 DK-2880 Bagsværd Denmark +45 4442 4200 (direct) +45 3079 4200 (mobile) "tlau" This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "David.Le.Sauvage" Sent: 23. marts 2006 01:25 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hi all, I'm new to the list and Web Publisher and was wondering if anyone knows how to create a URL for Web Publisher that would let me specify the database so that my users will only be searching one of two possible databases. I know how to specify the advanced search screen which I also want to use with the specific db. I have one community who will use one database and a completely different community who will use the other and it will only confuse them to have both available. regards -- David Le Sauvage Canadian Library of Family Medicine CFPC Library Service Rm 70D, Taylor Library University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 5B7 519-661-3170 Fax: 519-661-3880 www.cfpc.ca/clfm This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: Slow
Author: Ruth M    Posted: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:45:00 -0800
When I say I am editing a reference I mean adding page numbers and so forth which I presume has to be done from word? Ruth ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Sarah.Cage "s.cage" Sent: Fri 14/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> Slow Are you editing in Reference Manager, or via "edit citations" in Word? Editing in Reference Manager should be faster - and a database of 500-600 references is not big enough to slow it down. With that many citations in a document however, having "instant formatting" switched on will slow down Word considerably, so it may be better to only generate the bibliography occasionally. Maybe you could break the thesis into chapters in the short term, and only bring them together at the end? 500 cited references is a lot - so the programs are likely to struggle a bit. It may also be worth closing all the other windows that are open, to give maximum space for the computer to work on the bibliography generation. Hope this helps Best wishes Sarah Cage Senior Scientific Information Specialist National Poisons Information Service Birmingham, UK email "s.cage" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rettie" <"Ruth.M[R"@kingston.ac.uk] To: "RIS-List" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:50 AM Subject: <RefMan> Slow > > Hi, > > I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find > that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode > my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? > > Ruth > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: Slow
Author: Faith Donald    Posted: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:30:00 -0800
Hi Ruth, Adding page numbers can be done in a couple of ways. The easiest is to use the suffix option within Refman. Click on the citation for which you want to add a page number, select 'Edit Citation' and then 'Suffixes'. Use a spacce and enter the correct abbreviation for 'page', a space, and then the page number(s). You will continue to have difficulties if you try to edit from Word while the reference is highlighted in gray. Faith "Rettie" wrote: When I say I am editing a reference I mean adding page numbers and so forth which I presume has to be done from word? Ruth ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Sarah.Cage "s.cage" Sent: Fri 14/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> Slow Are you editing in Reference Manager, or via "edit citations" in Word? Editing in Reference Manager should be faster - and a database of 500-600 references is not big enough to slow it down. With that many citations in a document however, having "instant formatting" switched on will slow down Word considerably, so it may be better to only generate the bibliography occasionally. Maybe you could break the thesis into chapters in the short term, and only bring them together at the end? 500 cited references is a lot - so the programs are likely to struggle a bit. It may also be worth closing all the other windows that are open, to give maximum space for the computer to work on the bibliography generation. Hope this helps Best wishes Sarah Cage Senior Scientific Information Specialist National Poisons Information Service Birmingham, UK email "s.cage" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rettie" <"Ruth.M[R"@kingston.ac.uk] To: "RIS-List" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:50 AM Subject: <RefMan> Slow Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. -- Faith Donald, RN(EC); MS(CHN), Ph.D. Student, PHCNP Assistant Professor, Primary Health Care, Ryerson University Seconded to the CHSRF/CIHR Advanced Practice Nursing Chair McMaster University, School of Nursing HSC 3H48 1200 Main St W Hamilton, ON L8N 3Z5 (905)525-9140 ext. 22221 "fdonald" "Hospitals are but an intermediate stage of civilization... the ultimate object is to nurse all sick at home." Florence Nightingale The Times, April 14, 1876 http://www.florence-nightingale.co.uk

Re: Slow
Author: Sarah Cage    Posted: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:40:00 -0800
You're right - that sort of editing does have to be done from Word - I'm generally citing whole papers rather than page numbers, so that sort of editing is less likely - and I can't really help Sarah Sarah Cage Senior Scientific Information Specialist National Poisons Information Service Birmingham, UK email "s.cage" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rettie" <"Ruth.M[R"@kingston.ac.uk] To: "RIS-List" Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: RE: <RefMan> Slow > > When I say I am editing a reference I mean adding page numbers and so > forth which I presume has to be done from word? > > Ruth > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > From: "listmaster" on behalf of > Sarah.Cage "s.cage" > Sent: Fri 14/04/2006 01:50 > To: "RIS-List" > Subject: RE: <RefMan> Slow > > > > > Are you editing in Reference Manager, or via "edit citations" in Word? > > Editing in Reference Manager should be faster - and a database of > 500-600 references is not big enough to slow it down. > > With that many citations in a document however, having "instant > formatting" > switched on will slow down Word considerably, so it may be better to > only generate the bibliography occasionally. Maybe you could break the > thesis into chapters in the short term, and only bring them together at > the end? > > 500 cited references is a lot - so the programs are likely to struggle a > bit. It may also be worth closing all the other windows that are open, > to give maximum space for the computer to work on the bibliography > generation. > > Hope this helps > > Best wishes > > Sarah Cage > Senior Scientific Information Specialist National Poisons Information > Service Birmingham, UK > > email "s.cage" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rettie" <"Ruth.M[R"@kingston.ac.uk] > To: "RIS-List" > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:50 AM > Subject: <RefMan> Slow > > >> >> Hi, >> >> I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I > find >> that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print > mode >> my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? >> >> Ruth >> >> > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > >

Re: Slow
Author: Faith Donald    Posted: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:30:00 -0800
Hi Ruth, Adding page numbers can be done in a couple of ways. The easiest is to use the suffix option within Refman. Click on the citation for which you want to add a page number, select 'Edit Citation' and then 'Suffixes'. Use a spacce and enter the correct abbreviation for 'page', a space, and then the page number(s). You will continue to have difficulties if you try to edit from Word while the reference is highlighted in gray. Faith "Rettie" wrote: When I say I am editing a reference I mean adding page numbers and so forth which I presume has to be done from word? Ruth ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Sarah.Cage "s.cage" Sent: Fri 14/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> Slow Are you editing in Reference Manager, or via "edit citations" in Word? Editing in Reference Manager should be faster - and a database of 500-600 references is not big enough to slow it down. With that many citations in a document however, having "instant formatting" switched on will slow down Word considerably, so it may be better to only generate the bibliography occasionally. Maybe you could break the thesis into chapters in the short term, and only bring them together at the end? 500 cited references is a lot - so the programs are likely to struggle a bit. It may also be worth closing all the other windows that are open, to give maximum space for the computer to work on the bibliography generation. Hope this helps Best wishes Sarah Cage Senior Scientific Information Specialist National Poisons Information Service Birmingham, UK email "s.cage" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rettie" <"Ruth.M[R"@kingston.ac.uk] To: "RIS-List" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:50 AM Subject: <RefMan> Slow Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. -- Faith Donald, RN(EC); MS(CHN), Ph.D. Student, PHCNP Assistant Professor, Primary Health Care, Ryerson University Seconded to the CHSRF/CIHR Advanced Practice Nursing Chair McMaster University, School of Nursing HSC 3H48 1200 Main St W Hamilton, ON L8N 3Z5 (905)525-9140 ext. 22221 "fdonald" "Hospitals are but an intermediate stage of civilization... the ultimate object is to nurse all sick at home." Florence Nightingale The Times, April 14, 1876 http://www.florence-nightingale.co.uk

RE: Slow
Author: Info    Posted: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:45:00 -0800
Hi Ruth, First the language settings. Please MAKE BACKUPS OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. If you change the language settings to "English (US)", finish your document first. Than make the necessary backups. Proceed with one backup copy. Open it in Word and choose via the "Reference Manager 11 menu" within Word the option "Remove Field Codes". This will break the connection with Reference Manager. From that point you will be able to change language, styles, perform, grammar/spell check etc. etc. Finally, submit your paper to Nature ;). Crashing problem: Again, please make backups of the original document! Just create a brand new empty document. Open your old document at the same time. Via Reference Manager menu in Word choose "Revert to original text". Than select all. Than copy. Switch to the brand new document and "paste". Close the "old" document. Generate bibliography in the new document. This usually solves the most (if not all) problems. Best regards, -- Suat Tuzgöl DISC BV Schiphol/Heemstede (NL) P +31 (0)23 547 1855 F +31 (0)23 547 1859 E "info" I www.researchsoftware.nl I www.esdnow.com I www.esdnow.com/shop -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Rettie" Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:40 AM To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> Slow Suat, Thank you so much you. It worked. I had to go through your steps 3 - 8 about 5 times but eventually word put the whole document into UK English (which I need because I use Autocorrect based on UK English all the time). Now when I click to insert a reference it does so in seconds rather than minutes. It still takes about a minutes, however, to put in the citation. I have also had a problem when working in print layout with word repaginating and crashing every time I edit a citation. Any suggestion? Ruth ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of "info" Sent: Fri 14/04/2006 01:55 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> Slow Hi Ruth, In some cases this might help: 1. Make backups of your original document 2. Open the backup document 3. Edit-Select all (Ctrl-A) 4. Extra/Tools-Language-Set Language 5. Set language to "English (U.S.)" 6. Check "Do not check spelling and grammar" 7. Uncheck "Detect language automatically" 8. Ok On some systems Word is switching "language" in certain documents. This has helped some of our customers to get rid of "freezing" of the document. In your case it could also be helpful if you would uncheck "Scan for temporary citations" and "Check for citation changes" via the Reference Manager CWYW preferences in Word. Good luck! -- Suat Tuzgöl DISC BV Schiphol/Heemstede (NL) P +31 (0)23 547 1855 F +31 (0)23 547 1859 E "info" I www.researchsoftware.nl I www.esdnow.com I www.esdnow.com/shop -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Rettie" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:50 AM To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> Slow Hi, I am writing up my PhD and my document has about 500 references. I find that Ref Manager is very slow when I edit a reference, and in print mode my document keeps crashing while repaginating. Can anyone help? Ruth ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- From: "listmaster" on behalf of Troels Laurell Sent: Tue 11/04/2006 01:50 To: "RIS-List" Subject: RE: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hello David, I do not know if you ever received a response to this. I've done exactly what you describe, so if interested in more information please e-mail me directly. 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Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "David.Le.Sauvage" Sent: 23. marts 2006 01:25 To: "RIS-List" Subject: <RefMan> specifying the database in Web Publisher Hi all, I'm new to the list and Web Publisher and was wondering if anyone knows how to create a URL for Web Publisher that would let me specify the database so that my users will only be searching one of two possible databases. I know how to specify the advanced search screen which I also want to use with the specific db. I have one community who will use one database and a completely different community who will use the other and it will only confuse them to have both available. regards -- David Le Sauvage Canadian Library of Family Medicine CFPC Library Service Rm 70D, Taylor Library University of Western Ontario London, Ontario N6A 5B7 519-661-3170 Fax: 519-661-3880 www.cfpc.ca/clfm This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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