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Author: Diana Robinson    Posted: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:31:55 +0000
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:31:55 +0000 Reply-To: Sender: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Diana Robinson Subject: Pro-cite records on the Web Hello! We're trying to find libraries that have put records created using Pro-cite into a format searchable on the Internet. (We have a database of about 20,000 records.) My apologies if this is a "FAQ" --- I'm new to the list and am trying to find out what (if any) additional software we'll need in time for a grant proposal due soon. The people at RIS didn't have any specifics, and suggested a posting to the group. THANKS! Diana Robinson, Librarian NYS Academy of Fire Science

Re: Pro-cite records on the Web
Author: Mark Alfino    Posted: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:36:43 PST
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:36:43 PST Reply-To: Sender: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List From: Mark Alfino Organization: Gonzaga University Subject: Re: Pro-cite records on the Web I'm discouraged to see that RIS doesn't have a slicker approach to putting citations on the WEB. I guess the "internet enabler" they talk about on their web page is just a feature for "saving as...html". Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong. The approach I'm planning to use is to exported formatted citations to an Access database and then use MS Internet Information Server to query that database and return results to a web page. We have a fellow here (at the Foley Library) who's done that successfully for a local client of the library (the "Hanford Project"), and it works well. Dr. Mark Alfino Department of Philosophy Gonzaga University Spokane, WA 99258 Voice: 509-328-4220x3353 Fax: 509-324-5718 Cell: 509-939-4225

Pro-cite records on the Web
Author: Olson, Scott    Posted: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:33:00 -0600
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:33:00 -0600 Reply-To: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List Sender: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List From: "Olson, Scott" Subject: Pro-cite records on the Web Diana, >Hello! We're trying to find libraries that have put records created >using Pro-cite into a format searchable on the Internet. .. am trying to >find out what (if any) additional software we'll need in time for a grant >proposal due soon. The people at RIS didn't have any specifics, and >suggested a posting to the group. We are in the same situation and have received the same response. We also want to support a searchable pro-cite database on the Web and make it part of a grant request. If you find any information please share/post on the listserv. Scott Olson Department of Corrections MN

Re: Pro-cite records on the Web
Author: William S Peterson    Posted: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:34:53 -0400
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:34:53 -0400 Reply-To: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List Sender: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List From: "William S. Peterson" Subject: Re: Pro-cite records on the Web Comments: To: Diana Robinson In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Diana Robinson wrote: > Hello! We're trying to find libraries that have put records created > using Pro-cite into a format searchable on the Internet. (We have a > database of about 20,000 records.) > > My apologies if this is a "FAQ" --- I'm new to the list and am trying > to find out what (if any) additional software we'll need in time for > a grant proposal due soon. The people at RIS didn't have any > specifics, and suggested a posting to the group. > > THANKS! > > Diana Robinson, Librarian > NYS Academy of Fire Science > I had hoped there might be more responses to this query. I have a home page (http://www.wam.umd.edu/~wsp/devotion) featuring several bibliographical lists that were created with ProCite, and I would very much like to know whether it is going to be possible to mount a searchable ProCite database on the Web in the future. I realize there are other ways of doing that now, but they seem to require serious programming skills. Bill Peterson

Re: Pro-cite records on the Web
Author: Brian Nielsen    Posted: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:07:20 -0500
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:07:20 -0500 Reply-To: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List Sender: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List From: Brian Nielsen Subject: Re: Pro-cite records on the Web Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just a note, Bill's page is at http://www.wam.umd.edu/~wsp/devotion.htm We at Northwestern are also interested in this, and may be mounting something soon. Brian Brian Nielsen, Ph.D. Manager, Learning Technologies Group Academic Technologies Northwestern University 2129 N. Campus Drive Evanston, IL 60208-2850 (847)491-2170 fax:(847)491-3824 email: http://www.nwu.edu/people/b-nielsen At 01:34 PM 9/26/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Diana Robinson wrote: > >> Hello! We're trying to find libraries that have put records created >> using Pro-cite into a format searchable on the Internet. (We have a >> database of about 20,000 records.) >> >> My apologies if this is a "FAQ" --- I'm new to the list and am trying >> to find out what (if any) additional software we'll need in time for >> a grant proposal due soon. The people at RIS didn't have any >> specifics, and suggested a posting to the group. >> >> THANKS! >> >> Diana Robinson, Librarian >> NYS Academy of Fire Science >> > >I had hoped there might be more responses to this query. I have a home >page (http://www.wam.umd.edu/~wsp/devotion) featuring several >bibliographical lists that were created with ProCite, and I would very >much like to know whether it is going to be possible to mount a searchable >ProCite database on the Web in the future. I realize there are other ways >of doing that now, but they seem to require serious programming skills. > >Bill Peterson > >

Re: Pro-cite records on the Web
Author: William S Peterson    Posted: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:44:38 -0400
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:44:38 -0400 Reply-To: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List Sender: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List From: "William S. Peterson" Subject: Re: Pro-cite records on the Web In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to Brian Neilson for giving the correct version of my home page's URL. I am appending a message I sent this afternoon, on the assumption that it may be of general interest. Bill Peterson ************************************************************ >From Fri Sep 27 16:28:57 1996 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:07:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "William S. Peterson" To: Dave Kochalko Subject: Re: Pro-cite records on the Web Dear David, Thanks very much for your note. Let me explain my situation. I am an academic (professor of English at the University of Maryland) and have done a good deal of bibliographical work. I have been using ProCite regularly for a number of years and in fact once reviewed it in _Papers of the Bibliographical Society of America_ (of which I was then the editor). I am excited about the scholarly possibilities of the Web, and in particular I am fascinated by the prospect of producing searchable bibliographies. Because I am not a programmer, I do not feel ready to face the complexities of Java or CGI; what I want is a relatively simple program that will enable me to mount a bibliographical database on the Web. At the moment I have two home pages devoted to modern fine printing (http://www.wam.umd.edu/~wsp/home.htm) and English devotional writers of the seventeenth century (http://www.wam.umd.edu/~wsp/devotion.htm) respectively. Both make use of long bibliographical checklists originally compiled in ProCite but converted into ordinary text/HTML format. I see this as only a temporary measure, because obviously what I want to do is to offer access to the databases themselves. I suppose what I am really longing for is a slightly simplified, read-only version of ProCite. Since it would be read-only, there would be no need to allow access to the record screen, but I would want people to do searches and produce bibliographies in a variety of formats based upon those searches, much as one can do in ProCite. The bibliographies generated on the screen could then be downloaded or printed by the browser. How all this would interact with the Web browser or how it would be handled on the University of Maryland's file server is well beyond my technical expertise. But I cannot believe that I am only the only person who longs for this kind of product. I gather that various Web-compatible database programs are about to be made available, but I know from experience in dealing with more generic programs (such as Lotus Approach) that -- although they have many attractive features -- they just do not have the sophisticated formatting capabilities of ProCite. ProCite is a superb bibliographical database program (I use it every day in my professional activities), and if you folks were to create a read-only version for the Web, it would be an extraordinarily powerful tool for disseminating information. Please let me know if I have not been specific enough or if I can answer any questions. Regards, Bill Peterson

Re: Pro-cite records on the Web
Author: Diana Robinson    Posted: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:49:31 +0000
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:49:31 +0000 Reply-To: Sender: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Diana Robinson Subject: Re: Pro-cite records on the Web Hello, Brian. Almost all of the really valuable responses (8 of 9) to my question were posted to me and not the group. If you would like me to forward copies of these to you, please send a message. As it turns out, we will probably not have time to mess with most of the suggestions, especially those that require any kind of programming skill. We did confirm that the Web software we were already considering (BestWeb Pro, see www.bestseller.com) will work once we manage to export the ProCite files into an ODBC (open data-base connectivity)-compliant format. Have found a program which theoretically will let us do that (Data Magician, fax 519-836-2623) for $300. Since BestWeb Pro sells for only $350, I'm reasonably confident we'll be able to do this on a small grant. Unfortunately, since the grant proposals are due in 2 weeks, I can't check out all the other options. Best of luck to you! Diana Robinson, Librarian NYS Academy of Fire Science 607-535-7136

Re: Pro-cite records on the Web
Author: Diana Robinson    Posted: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:49:32 +0000
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:49:32 +0000 Reply-To: Sender: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Diana Robinson Subject: Re: Pro-cite records on the Web Bill: Your note to Kochalko at RIS was indeed interesting. We have nothing to lose by impressing on RIS that there is a demand for this type of product. If they don't listen, we need to find a vendor that will. Thanks for the update. Diana Robinson

Re: Pro-cite records on the Web
Author: Nancy Penn    Posted: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:55:00 -0700
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:55:00 -0700 Reply-To: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List Sender: PRO-CITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List From: Nancy Penn Subject: Re: Pro-cite records on the Web Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am also looking for a search on the internet for Procite databases. We are currently using the 'find' command in Netscape. But that doesn't do the kinds of searches we want. We want to be able to search the 'indexed' bibliography. If anyone is using a search routine on the internet, please let us know. >On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Diana Robinson wrote: > >> Hello! We're trying to find libraries that have put records created >> using Pro-cite into a format searchable on the Internet. (We have a >> database of about 20,000 records.) >> >> My apologies if this is a "FAQ" --- I'm new to the list and am trying >> to find out what (if any) additional software we'll need in time for >> a grant proposal due soon. The people at RIS didn't have any >> specifics, and suggested a posting to the group. >> >> THANKS! >> >> Diana Robinson, Librarian >> NYS Academy of Fire Science >> > >I had hoped there might be more responses to this query. I have a home >page (http://www.wam.umd.edu/~wsp/devotion) featuring several >bibliographical lists that were created with ProCite, and I would very >much like to know whether it is going to be possible to mount a searchable >ProCite database on the Web in the future. I realize there are other ways >of doing that now, but they seem to require serious programming skills. > >Bill Peterson > Nancy Penn - - University of Arizona/CCIT/User Support

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