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Experience with large Procite files
Author: George Swan    Posted: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:59:08 -0600
Subject: Experience with large Procite files?
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Folks:

I've been asked to contribute experience/advice on how to present a large
departmental library electronically which up until now has been on
hard-copy cards.

One option I suggested was the Procite/Ref Web poster route, since grad
students/faculty might also want to search from home or office.

Does anyone have any experience with 4,000 to 6,000 item procite files?
slow are they in:
a) Procite environment (with Pentium 400)
b) Ref Webposter (dedicated line--not modem-- and a solid server software

gs

Re: Experience with large Procite files
Author: Constance J Britton    Posted: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:13:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Experience with large Procite files?
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I have a database with about 7800 items in it which we serve
from an NT running Reference Web Poster. Response times are
perfectly satisfactory. You're welcome to look at our implementation.

http://www2.oardc.ohio-state.edu/RIS/RISWEB.ISA


At 11:59 AM 11/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Folks:
>
>I've been asked to contribute experience/advice on how to present a large
>departmental library electronically which up until now has been on
>hard-copy cards.
>
>One option I suggested was the Procite/Ref Web poster route, since grad
>students/faculty might also want to search from home or office.
>
>Does anyone have any experience with 4,000 to 6,000 item procite files?
> slow are they in:
>a) Procite environment (with Pentium 400)
>b) Ref Webposter (dedicated line--not modem-- and a solid server software
>
>gs
>

Re: Experience with large Procite files
Author: Arledge, Genni B    Posted: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:57:26 -0600
Subject: Re: Experience with large Procite files?
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We use a database that is 8,400 items on a Pentium 133 and speed has
never been a problem. We havn't loaded our Webposter yet though.

Genni Arledge
Librarian
DoD Polygraph Institute
Bldg 3195 & 13th Ave
Ft. McClellan, AL 36205-5114

256-848-4703



> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Swan
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 11:59 AM
> To:
> Subject: Experience with large Procite files?
>
> Folks:
>
> I've been asked to contribute experience/advice on how to present a
> large
> departmental library electronically which up until now has been on
> hard-copy cards.
>
> One option I suggested was the Procite/Ref Web poster route, since
> grad
> students/faculty might also want to search from home or office.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with 4,000 to 6,000 item procite
> files?
> slow are they in:
> a) Procite environment (with Pentium 400)
> b) Ref Webposter (dedicated line--not modem-- and a solid server
> software
>
> gs
>

Re: Experience with large Procite files
Author: STANLEY: Dr Philip    Posted: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:37:41 -0000
Subject: Re: Experience with large Procite files?
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I am running ProCite 4.01 (under NT4) with a database now exceeding 52,000
records (incl. Abstracts which I have collected over 35 years) and the files
of this amount to 300MB. The machine is running with two processors
(266MHz) and 256 MB RAM. I get the impression that the amount of RAM is an
important feature in the speed of searching. A few thousand references
should not pose a speed problem. I have no experience with Ref Web
Poster.
********************************************************************
Dr Philip Stanley

Email:
Tel: +44 1223-460888
FAX: +44 1223-461777

Cambridge Research & Technology Transfer Ltd
48 Glisson Road
Cambridge CB1 2HF
England

********************************************************************



-----Original Message-----
From: PROCITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List
On Behalf Of George Swan
Sent: 16 November 1998 17:59
To:
Subject: Experience with large Procite files?

Folks:

I've been asked to contribute experience/advice on how to present a large
departmental library electronically which up until now has been on
hard-copy cards.

One option I suggested was the Procite/Ref Web poster route, since grad
students/faculty might also want to search from home or office.

Does anyone have any experience with 4,000 to 6,000 item procite files?
slow are they in:
a) Procite environment (with Pentium 400)
b) Ref Webposter (dedicated line--not modem-- and a solid server software

gs

Re: Experience with large Procite files
Author: Jean Deacon    Posted: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:14:07 +1100
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:14:07 +1100
Reply-To: Jean Deacon
Sender: PROCITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List

From: Jean Deacon
Subject: Re: Experience with large Procite files?
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, George Swan wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience with 4,000 to 6,000 item procite files?
> slow are they in:

> a) Procite environment (with Pentium 400)

I use two databases of about 4500 records, and they're fast. I use one of
them to demonstrate with, and the audience is usually impressed with the
speed of searching.

> b) Ref Webposter (dedicated line--not modem-- and a solid server software

Your problems here won't be with speed. RWP is quite quick to search.

HOWEVER, think very carefully. RWP is actually designed for Reference
Manager, another product from the RIS stable. RWP converts Procite
databases to RefMan, but there are some fields which do not map correctly.
I won't go into the details, as I presume you're not familiar with either
product. However, before making a purchase, get the help desk to set out
for you just how you can avoid problems.

A second problem is that you can't actually print off a list of references
from RWP: you have to do it screen by screen, or copy/paste each screen
to compile a list.

I really like Procite, but the current version of RWP is not mature. They
expect an upgrade early next year, I believe.

Best regards, Jean

Jean Deacon - CSIRO _--_|\
Division of Minerals / \ tel +61 3 9545 8534
Box 312 Clayton South \_.--._/ fax +61 3 9562 8919
3168 AUSTRALIA v

Re: Experience with large Procite files
Author: Diana Robinson    Posted: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:07:05 +0000
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:07:05 +0000
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From: Diana Robinson
Organization: NYS Academy of Fire Science
Subject: Re: Experience with large Procite files?
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Dear Dr. Stanley:
Our largest Procite database is about 25,000 records. An in-house
search goes fairly fast; it does take somewhat longer on the RWP
database which is on the Internet. If you'd like to test it out
yourself, visit http://fire.lakenet.org

We did have lots of problems getting the largest database to run.
The smaller ones (1,000 to 4,000 records) loaded without any
problems. The big one (articles) kept crashing. If it happens to
you, re-index on the host computer, and then load into RWP.


Diana Robinson, Librarian
NYS OFPC, Academy of Fire Science
PO Box 11, 600 College Ave.
Montour Falls, NY 14865
607-535-7136 ext.605 (fax 535-4841)

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