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Procite to Access
Author: Steve Johnson    Posted: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:46:07 -0500
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:46:07 -0500
Reply-To: PROCITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List

Sender: PROCITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List

From: Steve Johnson
Organization: Wildlife Conservation Society
Subject: Procite to Access
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Recent messages re: ProCite to Access reminded me of my experience that a
webmaster may ask for a file in Access or comma delimited format when what is
wanted is much more simple--a file saved/printed to disk in formatted style. I
would bet that most webmasters who ask for bibliographies in Access or comma
delimited format don't intend to reinvent a system for correctly displaying
citations for single and multiple author articles and books in a variety of
academic styles. They just want to import one more piece of content and, when it
comes to database content, they are accustomed to Access and Excel.

When I recently provided a small bibliography (375 references) to a web site,
what finally satisfied the webmaster and the programmer was an ASCII file of
records output in CBE style. Their software could import a file in which one
record equalled one sometimes very long line of text, corresponding to one
citation. I suppose it never occured to them to ask for an ASCII file, or it
seemed too technical or too old-fashioned, compared to asking for Access, comma
delimited, etc.

Before I suggested and provided the website with references saved to disk in
ASCII format, I exported and documented files in comma delimited format, per
request. The web folks imported these files into Excel and responded on at some
length about why did I need all those empty fields, how would they be
reassembled, why didn't I use Excel or Access for bibliographies, etc. That's
when I suggested an ASCII file. The web folks were not proposing to set up a
bibliographical database with sophisticated subject indexing--they were just
going to publish a list of references, within which one can search with the
browsers "find" and "find next" if need be. The references may also be retrieved
using the site's search engine.


Steven Johnson
Wildlife Conservation Society

Procite to Access
Author: Andy Barrow    Posted: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:45:55 +0000
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:45:55 +0000
Reply-To: PROCITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List

Sender: PROCITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List

From: Andy Barrow
Subject: Procite to Access

I am on leave until 8 Jan. Your email will have my full attention on my return.
Urgent enquiries can be directed to Mrs. Ann Head on (023) 9284-3248
(email:

Andrew Barrow
Frewen Library
University of Portsmouth
PORTSMOUTH
PO1 2ST

Vedr.: PROCITE to access 2 Jan 2001 to 3 Jan 2001 (#2001-2
Author: Torben Werner Bennedsgaard    Posted: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:47:37 +0100
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:47:37 +0100
Reply-To: PROCITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List

Sender: PROCITE The Personal Bibliographic Software Discussion List

From: Torben Werner Bennedsgaard
Subject: Vedr.: PROCITE to access 2 Jan 2001 to 3 Jan 2001 (#2001-2)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>>> 04-01-01 06:06 >>>
There are 2 messages totalling 58 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Procite to Access (2)

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:46:07 -0500
From: Steve Johnson
Subject: Procite to Access

Recent messages re: ProCite to Access reminded me of my experience that a
webmaster may ask for a file in Access or comma delimited format when what =
is
wanted is much more simple--a file saved/printed to disk in formatted =
style. I
would bet that most webmasters who ask for bibliographies in Access or =
comma
delimited format don't intend to reinvent a system for correctly displaying=

citations for single and multiple author articles and books in a variety =
of
academic styles. They just want to import one more piece of content and, =
when it
comes to database content, they are accustomed to Access and Excel.

When I recently provided a small bibliography (375 references) to a web =
site,
what finally satisfied the webmaster and the programmer was an ASCII file =
of
records output in CBE style. Their software could import a file in which =
one
record equalled one sometimes very long line of text, corresponding to one
citation. I suppose it never occured to them to ask for an ASCII file, or =
it
seemed too technical or too old-fashioned, compared to asking for Access, =
comma
delimited, etc.

Before I suggested and provided the website with references saved to disk =
in
ASCII format, I exported and documented files in comma delimited format, =
per
request. The web folks imported these files into Excel and responded on =
at some
length about why did I need all those empty fields, how would they be
reassembled, why didn't I use Excel or Access for bibliographies, etc. =
That's
when I suggested an ASCII file. The web folks were not proposing to set up =
a
bibliographical database with sophisticated subject indexing--they were =
just
going to publish a list of references, within which one can search with =
the
browsers "find" and "find next" if need be. The references may also be =
retrieved
using the site's search engine.


Steven Johnson
Wildlife Conservation Society


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Procite to Access
Author: Ballo,Janice R    Posted: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:41:15 -0400
Has anyone had success moving data from Procite to Access? Any tips or
tricks?
Thanks

Janice Redington Ballo
R304 Knowledge Management Services
The MITRE Corporation
7515 Colshire Drive, M/S N160, McLean, VA 22102,
Phone:703/983-5445; Fax: 703/983-3350
e-mail:


Re: Procite to Access
Author: David Burton    Posted: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:34:35 -0500
Janice

Check with the National Park Service. They used
Procite for a major national data base efforts. When
they wanted to make the database web accessable, it's
my understanding that they developed method of moving
the data to Access. I'm away from my office right now
so I don't have the contact names that I think I still
have in my files but try finding the database on the
web. When I get back to the offfice, I'll try to find
the contact I info.

David Burton
Aspen Delineation Project

--- Original Message ---
From: "Ballo,Janice R." /> To: /> Subject: Procite to Access

>Has anyone had success moving data from Procite to
Access? Any tips or
>tricks?
>Thanks
>
>Janice Redington Ballo =20
>R304 Knowledge Management Services=20
>The MITRE Corporation=20
>7515 Colshire Drive, M/S N160, McLean, VA 22102,=20
>Phone:703/983-5445; Fax: 703/983-3350=20
>e-mail: =20
>
>=20

Re: Procite to Access
Author: David Burton    Posted: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:52:03 -0500
Janice

I found some web pages that might lead you to some
answers

www.nature.nps.gov/nrbib

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?
q=2127297519049&lang=en-US&FORM=CVRE3

This second web link is from a google cache and it
contains the persons name that I think I have in my
office.

David

Wendy Schumacher--970/225-3548

-- Original Message ---
From: David Burton /> To: /> Subject: Re: Procite to Access

>Janice
>
>Check with the National Park Service. They used
>Procite for a major national data base efforts. When
>they wanted to make the database web accessable, it's
>my understanding that they developed method of moving
>the data to Access. I'm away from my office right now
>so I don't have the contact names that I think I
still
>have in my files but try finding the database on the
>web. When I get back to the offfice, I'll try to find
>the contact I info.
>
>David Burton
>Aspen Delineation Project
>
>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Ballo,Janice R." /> >To: /> >Subject: Procite to Access
>
>>Has anyone had success moving data from Procite to
>Access? Any tips or
>>tricks?
>>Thanks
>>
>>Janice Redington Ballo =20
>>R304 Knowledge Management Services=20
>>The MITRE Corporation=20
>>7515 Colshire Drive, M/S N160, McLean, VA 22102,=20
>>Phone:703/983-5445; Fax: 703/983-3350=20
>>e-mail: =20
>>
>>=20

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