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Everybody is =, but some are more = than others

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Everybody is =, but some are more = than others
Author: Hanno KOLBE    Posted: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:35:59 +0200
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:35:59 +0200
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From: Hanno KOLBE
Subject: Everybody is =, but some are more = than others
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Hello Marcio
(but it may be interesting for the others, too...)
I had the problem that parentheses in ProCite Ver.4.03, i.e. " ( "
and " ) " in fields #16 and #17, were not printed out at all in any
output style.
The solution?
The "settings" of those fields do not allow output of parenthesis.
HOWEVER, placing an " = " sign at the beginning of the field overrides
these settings and any other "field formatting" and parantheses are
printed out as they should (holds for any of the 45 fields; of course in
the output the "=" sign does not appear).
This may be the reason why the "=" sign (Marcios bug 13, March 24, 2000)
perturbs the formating of the title.

Sincerely
Hanno V.J.Kolbe

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Re: Everybody is =, but some are more = than others
Author: Marcio Redondo    Posted: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:24:42 +0100
Subject: Re: Everybody is =, but some are more = than others
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Dear Hanno

Thanks for your posting. You are right in your analysis.
Somehow the "=" sign interferes with the text scanning by
Procite. The interesting thing is that anything after "=" in
a title is put between quotation marks and preceded by the
"/ft" switch.

Regards,

Marcio


Hanno KOLBE wrote

<snip>

> The "settings" of those fields do not allow output of parenthesis.
> HOWEVER, placing an " = " sign at the beginning of the field overrides
> these settings and any other "field formatting" and parantheses are
> printed out as they should (holds for any of the 45 fields; of course in
> the output the "=" sign does not appear).
> This may be the reason why the "=" sign (Marcios bug 13, March 24, 2000)
> perturbs the formating of the title.

Re: Everybody is =, but some are more = than others
Author: Thomas R Williams    Posted: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:25:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Everybody is =, but some are more = than others
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Marcio: I think this is an interesting interference caused by a very
useful utility in ProCite.

When entering names in the name fields, it is necessary to identify
suffices, for example, Jr., III, Esq., Third Earle of Rosse, etc. One
cannot simply attach these to the last name or they become a part of every
citation, which is awkward. So ProCite allows the entry to include the "="
sign to stipulate that the material immediately following the "=" sign is
the suffix. Thus, William Parsons, Third Earl of Rosse is entered Parsons,
William = Third Earl of Rosse and will print out correctly in a variety of
formats.

But of course that is also the function of the /ft switch in citations and
that is apparently why that switch then shows up in your citation.. Hope
this makes sense. It sounds like the ???? approach, with global editing to
replace the ???? with = after the citations are printed to a file, would be
a good work around until the programmers find a longer term remedy. There
are not many titles that contain mathematical symbols like "=" so I doubt
that this will get a high priority.

Thanks to Hanno for posting an interesting trick on the use of "=" in
another way.

Tom Williams.


At 10:24 AM 04/07/2000 +0100, you wrote:
>Dear Hanno
>
>Thanks for your posting. You are right in your analysis.
>Somehow the "=" sign interferes with the text scanning by
>Procite. The interesting thing is that anything after "=" in
>a title is put between quotation marks and preceded by the
>"/ft" switch.
>
>Regards,
>
>Marcio
>
>
>Hanno KOLBE wrote
>
><snip>
>
>> The "settings" of those fields do not allow output of parenthesis.
>> HOWEVER, placing an " = " sign at the beginning of the field overrides
>> these settings and any other "field formatting" and parantheses are
>> printed out as they should (holds for any of the 45 fields; of course in
>> the output the "=" sign does not appear).
>> This may be the reason why the "=" sign (Marcios bug 13, March 24, 2000)
>> perturbs the formating of the title.
>
>

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