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[MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: Snelling, Dave    Posted: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:07:18 -0400
I share some of the frustrations expressed on this list by Mathcad 8 users. However, our group is using it successfully for routine research data analysis and some numerical modelling. It may have deficiencies but it seems by far the best software from ease of use and self documenting perspectives. If there are better packages I would like to know of them. I would like to hear from Mathcad 2000 users if they are able to run version 8 and 2000 from the same machine. I remember with the transition from 7 to 8 we were told by Mathcad sales that we could run both and evaluate the newer package. It turned out not to be true because of registry conflicts and we had to remove 8. Does anyone have similar experience with the Mathcad 8 and 2000 compatibility on the same computer or network? Dave Snelling Dr D. R. Snelling NRC/ICPET Building M9 Montreal Rd Ottawa,Ontario Canada K1A 0R6 Tel: 613-993-0810 Fax: 613-957-7869 e-mail: />

Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Steen_Gro=F0e?=    Posted: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:15:54 +0200
> would like to know of them. I would like to hear from Mathcad 2000 > users if they are able to run version 8 and 2000 from the same > machine. I remember with the transition from 7 to 8 we were told by > Mathcad sales that we could run both and evaluate the newer package. > It turned out not to be true because of registry conflicts and we had > to remove 8. Does anyone have similar experience with the Mathcad 8 > and 2000 compatibility on the same computer or network? I am running version 2000 and 8 on the same machine without any problems. But on the other hand I'm also running version 7, 6.5 (study works) and version 6 despite there should be some conflicts. :-) Steen ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

RE: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: Snelling, Dave    Posted: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:37:25 -0400
Thanks for your reply Steen. As I remember our problem it involved Mathcad7 crashes that resulted from version 8 being installed. Do you run version 7 often? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Steen Groðe /> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 1:16 PM To: /> Subject: Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000 > would like to know of them. I would like to hear from Mathcad 2000 > users if they are able to run version 8 and 2000 from the same > machine. I remember with the transition from 7 to 8 we were told by > Mathcad sales that we could run both and evaluate the newer package. > It turned out not to be true because of registry conflicts and we had > to remove 8. Does anyone have similar experience with the Mathcad 8 > and 2000 compatibility on the same computer or network? I am running version 2000 and 8 on the same machine without any problems. But on the other hand I'm also running version 7, 6.5 (study works) and version 6 despite there should be some conflicts. :-) Steen ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/ ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

[MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000 bugs, what a surprise!
Author: Mark Smith    Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:45:04 +0100
on 20 Sept 99 Steen Grode sent an offer of version 8 bug test on the 2000 beta version he was trying. I sent him a problem I had discovered with the symbolic processor in ver 8.03 giving the "wrong answer"! (version 6 gives the correct answer?) Steens reply was not encouraging. **************************************************************************** * Hey Mark Still I have only got the final release candidate so my tests at the moment has a very little uncertainty. But your bug hasn't been fixed this time. I was aware of it and reported it the same day you posted it to the list but I think that the problem is that it's a bug in that part of the program that Mathsoft has brought from elsewhere (as far as I know from Maple). The last time I found a bug in that part the bug was corrected in one of the service packs but if they will correct this I don't know. Regards :-) Steen **************************************************************************** **** So not only is ver 8 broke but we are being fooled into thinking all the known bugs of ver 8 have been fixed in ver 2000 (and how many are yet to be discovered as well). As a colleague said to me the other day "a math's package that gives the wrong answer is less use than no math's package at all" I rue the day I gave up using ver 6 plus, I recently asked Adept for a down grade from 8 to 6 with a pay back of £149 per version. It's gone very quiet. Regards Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000 bugs, what a surprise!
Author: Paul_Bragg    Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:37:01 GMT
Hi Could you email the file to us to have a look at /> so we can try it with the shipping version of Mathcad 2000 which has just arrived with us. Regards Paul Bragg on 20 Sept 99 Steen Grode sent an offer of version 8 bug test on the 2000 beta version he was trying. I sent him a problem I had discovered with the symbolic processor in ver 8.03 giving the "wrong answer"! (version 6 gives the correct answer?) Steens reply was not encouraging. **************************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

[MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: DonEPearce    Posted: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:14:30 EST
I have been using this for a month or so now, mainly in telecomms for analysing signals, radio propagation and related tasks. No problems to report, apart from the failure to link to Excel, and the difficulty in integrating my Signal Processing function pack handbook. I never went through version 8, but many of my V6 sheets which a couldn't use in V7 now seem OK again. Axum, though - I know it is a freebee, but what on earth is that all about? Even on a high speed PC it plods along at a snail's pace devouring system resources like they're going out of style! I have removed it. Don ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

[MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: Roald C Maximo    Posted: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:19:36 -0200
Hi people! In each new version of Mathcad some new oddities seem to creep in. Files corrected to work properly in the prior version refuse to do so in the new one. It has been so from version 5 on. Now, version 2000 presents some new bizarries. I feel this one specially annoying. Does someone know how to correct it? TIA Roald
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Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Steen_Gro=F0e?=    Posted: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 19:47:38 +0100
Hi Roald > In version 8 there were some problems with danish letters and this looks as if it is something like that. I've changed the letter z to u in your files and then it works!?! :-) Steen
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Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: Roald C Maximo    Posted: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:05:15 -0200
Hi Steen Nice to hear from you again. Thank you for your concern about my problem with MC2000 but the letter that is raising the problem is not a z but the Greek symbol epsilon ( which is part of Mathcad) and, as so, has obviously nothing to do with problems with Danish letters not even with MS Serif as pointed by Rob Dooley. As a matter of fact I can't dispense using that symbol since it is traditionally used by E/E engineering community in that context, dealing with pass band ripple in communications networks. So the question stays open and it would be interesting to hear also something from people at Mathsoft. Many thanks to Steen and Rob Roald -----Original Message----- From: Steen Groðe /> To: /> Date: Domingo, 9 de Janeiro de 2000 17:38 Subject: Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000 Hi Roald > In version 8 there were some problems with danish letters and this looks as if it is something like that. I've changed the letter z to u in your files and then it works!?! :-) Steen ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: Nick Whyborn    Posted: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:08:43 +0100
The problem is that MathCAD has a predefined function named with the Greek letter epsilon (search the online help for "epsilon" or try typing e<cntrl>g= in an empty worksheet). Nick. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Nick Whyborn http://www.sron.rug.nl/~nick/ Space Research Organisation Netherlands _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ SRON-Groningen _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ P.O.Box 800 _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 9700 AV Groningen _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ The Netherlands _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ tel. (+31)-50 363 4052 fax. (+31)-50 363 4033 ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: Roald C Maximo    Posted: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:20:30 -0200
Hi Nick Thank you for your advise. I was not aware of the new built in function in MC-2000. I wonder how many people really necessitate that little gimmick ! And here goes a plea to Mathsoft Those Greek symbols are always used in relation to context specific to the various disciplines and we try to maintain coherence with the existing literature. If those symbols are to be kidnapped to nominate the new built in functions added to each new release of Mathcad, they will be missing for technical work. Is there any means by which that built in function can be disabled or at least renamed to something like "epsy"? Mathcad isn't used solely by mathematicians and statisticians; it's being used extensively by engineering and technical people all over the world, and that is a point that Mathsoft seems to be disdaining. I'm tired of overhauling and sometimes defacing my worksheets to conform with every new release of Mathcad. I consider that backward compatibility ought to be preserved. Thanks to all Roald -----Original Message----- From: Nick Whyborn /> To: /> Date: Terça-feira, 11 de Janeiro de 2000 08:45 Subject: Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000 > >The problem is that MathCAD has a predefined function named with the >Greek letter epsilon (search the online help for "epsilon" or try typing >e<cntrl>g= in an empty worksheet). > >Nick. > >-- >______________________________________________________________________ > >Nick Whyborn http://www.sron.rug.nl/~nick/ > >Space Research Organisation > Netherlands _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ >SRON-Groningen _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ >P.O.Box 800 _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ >9700 AV Groningen _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ >The Netherlands _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ > >tel. (+31)-50 363 4052 fax. (+31)-50 363 4033 >______________________________________________________________________ >------------------------------------------------------------- >The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News > Contributions: /> >To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad > To: /> > Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com > List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000
Author: Chris Whitford    Posted: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:07:19 +0000
Epsilon is the asymmetric tensor function. This isn't new; it has existed at least as far back as V6. But you can always override a function name by redefining it in your worksheet as a new function or a variable. Chris Whitford At 21:20 11/01/00 -0200, you wrote: >Hi Nick > > Thank you for your advise. I was not aware of the new built in function >in MC-2000. I wonder how many people really necessitate that little gimmick >! > > > >The problem is that MathCAD has a predefined function named with the > >Greek letter epsilon (search the online help for "epsilon" or try typing > >e<cntrl>g= in an empty worksheet). > > > >Nick. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Chris Whitford University of Leicester + + Tel: (44) 116 252 3496 Space Research Centre + + Fax: (44) 116 252 2464 Physics and Astronomy Department + + University Road + + http://www.star.le.ac.uk/ LEICESTER LE1 7RH + + UK + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

[MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000?
Author: M Potter    Posted: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:01:54 -0000
What's the verdict out there? Is it safe to upgrade this time? -- Mick Potter De La Rue Cash Systems, Langstone Gate, Solent Road, Havant, Hampshire, PO9 1TP, England. Phone: +44 (0) 1705 440077. Fax: +44 (0) 1705 492920. E-mail: /> The opinions expressed here do not necessarily represent those of De La Rue International. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000?
Author: DonEPearce    Posted: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:12:03 EST
I've been using 2000 for a while now on Windows 98, and it seems pretty stable. A lot of my old MC6 files that wouldn't run on MC7 are now operational again. I am far from happy with the speed, though. D ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

Re: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000?
Author: Greg Neill    Posted: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:01:35 +0000
> > What's the verdict out there? Is it safe to upgrade this time? > -- > Mick Potter Mathcad 2000 seems to be reasonably safe. There are still a few, shall we say, idiosyncrasies with the product, mainly having to do with cutting and pasting. In most cases a screen refresh (<ctrl>R) will clear things up. I still find myself hitting "recalculate" a lot out of force of habit from experience with 8.0, but this doesn't seem to be a necessity any longer. One thing I've noticed but can't confirm, is that if I have MCAD running while I have an online networking session going (not via MCAD but a separate telnet style session), my machine seems to lock up after I shut down the modem connection. This is not consistent and I have a lot of odds and ends installed on my PC, so it's pretty hard to point a finger on this. Cheers, Greg Neill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Neill, | "As if you could kill time HNSX Supercomputers Inc. | without injuring eternity." | - Henry David Thoreau ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

RE: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000?
Author: Dave Robinson    Posted: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:36:44 -0000
Despite my bad experience with version 8, I thought I would give 2000 the benefit of the doubt. On the whole it seems a great deal more solid than 8, and my image processing times are once more relatively sensible. However there are one or two dodgy areas - slight niggles rather than hair ripping stuff. For example I find that cursor placement in a Maths field is slightly imprecise. Cutting and pasting sometimes can have a very nasty effect. Several times I have been doing a very straightforward edit when there is just a hint of an error message, then MathCad just instantly closes down, not even giving a chance to save the work before leaving. I have yet to pinpoint the situation what causes it, but it seems very prone to generating "Internal Errors, please save you work and exit". Although one way of almost guaranteeing it is trying to use a vector of images within a function. There seems to be something slightly wrong with the way it closes down. I often get an error message on closing it down, or when I start to shut the machine down. Finally once or twice I have started up MathCad only to find it never reaches the start screen, but completely locks up my machine. It might be that I have just been too impatient here, in that the start time seems very variable, and on a very bad day can take almost 2 minutes to kick into action - but I somehow think that a wait of 15 minutes consists of a lock up. Am I pleased I purchased it - yes indeed; at last I can get back to worrying developing my image processing algorithms, and not swearing at MathCad. Should you update? I guess my advice (for what its worth!) is if you are working with 6 then don't bother. If you are running 7 or 8 then it is worth upgrading. For me - the new add in's are just disc wasting gimmicks, but I can appreciate that there are some areas which might find them useful. Dave Robinson Senior Consultant Integral Vision Ltd. -----Original Message----- From: m potter /> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 10:02 AM To: /> Subject: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000? What's the verdict out there? Is it safe to upgrade this time? -- Mick Potter De La Rue Cash Systems, Langstone Gate, Solent Road, Havant, Hampshire, PO9 1TP, England. Phone: +44 (0) 1705 440077. Fax: +44 (0) 1705 492920. E-mail: /> The opinions expressed here do not necessarily represent those of De La Rue International. _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/ ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

RE: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000?
Author: Chris Whitford    Posted: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:26:46 +0000
> >Finally once or twice I have started up MathCad only to find it never >reaches the start screen, but completely locks up my machine. It might be >that I have just been too impatient here, in that the start time seems very >variable, and on a very bad day can take almost 2 minutes to kick into >action - but I somehow think that a wait of 15 minutes consists of a lock >up. > >Dave Robinson I get this problem with version 6. It only started to happen when I upgraded from a 486 to a Pentium II. Although I suspect this is more a problem with Windows 95 than with Mathcad, I think that where an application is prone to these sort of problems, the developers should try to identify the reason and work around it. Trying to get Microsoft to fix Windows bugs is a lost cause. Chris Whitford +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Chris Whitford University of Leicester + + Tel: (44) 116 252 3496 Space Research Centre + + Fax: (44) 116 252 2464 Physics and Astronomy Department + + University Road + + http://www.star.le.ac.uk/ LEICESTER LE1 7RH + + UK + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

RE: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000?
Author: Dave Robinson    Posted: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:46:23 -0000
I think we can remove Windows 95 from the equation - I am running NT4, although like you I am running on a Pentium 2 Dave Robinson -----Original Message----- From: Chris Whitford /> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 11:27 AM To: /> Subject: RE: [MATHCAD] Mathcad 2000? > >Finally once or twice I have started up MathCad only to find it never >reaches the start screen, but completely locks up my machine. It might be >that I have just been too impatient here, in that the start time seems very >variable, and on a very bad day can take almost 2 minutes to kick into >action - but I somehow think that a wait of 15 minutes consists of a lock >up. > >Dave Robinson I get this problem with version 6. It only started to happen when I upgraded from a 486 to a Pentium II. Although I suspect this is more a problem with Windows 95 than with Mathcad, I think that where an application is prone to these sort of problems, the developers should try to identify the reason and work around it. Trying to get Microsoft to fix Windows bugs is a lost cause. Chris Whitford +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Chris Whitford University of Leicester + + Tel: (44) 116 252 3496 Space Research Centre + + Fax: (44) 116 252 2464 Physics and Astronomy Department + + University Road + + http://www.star.le.ac.uk/ LEICESTER LE1 7RH + + UK + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/ ------------------------------------------------------------- The Mathcad List - Discussion, Support & News Contributions: /> To unsubscribe: Send in the body: unsubscribe mathcad To: /> Hosted by: Adept Scientific http://www.adeptscience.com List Archive: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/

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