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Author: Laurent Muller    Posted: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:12:28 -0600 (
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I tried to do a symbolic problem in Mathcad 15, but could not do it directly.&nbsp; A contributor on the PTC Community did come up with a way to do it in Mathcad
15 which worked, but it was awkward.&nbsp; &nbsp;Whereas Mathcad 11, which I understand used the Maple 5 symbolic engine, worked fine, once I learned that “lh” meant left hand.&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">So maybe there is a point to “use an earlier version of MC for symbolics”.&nbsp; Although I doubt this is what PTC meant, since there is no money in Mathcad 11.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le 31/01/2012 10:49, <a target="_blank" /> a écrit&nbsp;: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">The first fruit of this work was Mathcad Prime 1.0 which was a step along the way to transforming Mathcad ...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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My information is that MathCad Prime does not do symbolic calculations -<br>
If that information is correct, I am totally&nbsp;&nbsp; baffled as symbolics is <br>
my principal reason for using MC (since the early nineties! )&nbsp; even <br>
if&nbsp; symbolics is not MC's strong suit.<br>
<br>
MathCad Prime is useless to me without the symbolics , <br>
and shipping&nbsp; MC 15 with MathCad Prime&nbsp; does not help. <br>
&nbsp;Indeed,&nbsp; the argument "use an earlier version of MC for symbolics"&nbsp; is absurd.<br>
<br>
Anyway, it's nice to see this list is alive again - <br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Marc Artzrouni <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">and you can expect to see another release of Mathcad Prime in the near future which will continue this process.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Best Regards</span> <br>
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RE: [mathcad] From 2001 to 15
Author: Dumke, Bill    Posted: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:23:33 +0000
That’s another reason many of us have kept Mathcad 11. It is backwards compatible to version 8. But I have used it to load version 3.1 and 4.0 files, and the numerical stuff and graphics worked fine. I don’t think I had anything in symbolics back then. If I remember correctly I also once ran a Mathcad 11 file successfully in 2001i.

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From: Laurent Muller
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Well...I loaded 15 and it does cohabit peacefully with 2001, just as advised on this List, but backwards compatibility goes only back to 11, so I better keep 15 away from my older files (ranging from 2001 all the way back to DOS)!

I still tried to open a 2001 file though, and was in for a bit of shock, when 15 red flagged a Solve Block with "there is something wrong with this solve block" (or something close to that) when this Solve Block is working flawlessly in 2001. Not a good first impression.
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From: "Dumke, Bill"
Sent: Jan 31, 2012 10:46 AM
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Marc,

I tried to do a symbolic problem in Mathcad 15, but could not do it directly. A contributor on the PTC Community did come up with a way to do it in Mathcad 15 which worked, but it was awkward. Whereas Mathcad 11, which I understand used the Maple 5 symbolic engine, worked fine, once I learned that “lh” meant left hand.

So maybe there is a point to “use an earlier version of MC for symbolics”. Although I doubt this is what PTC meant, since there is no money in Mathcad 11.

Bill

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From: Marc Artzouni
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:30 AM
To:
Subject: [mathcad] MathCad Prime

Le 31/01/2012 10:49, a écrit :
The first fruit of this work was Mathcad Prime 1.0 which was a step along the way to transforming Mathcad ...

My information is that MathCad Prime does not do symbolic calculations -
If that information is correct, I am totally baffled as symbolics is
my principal reason for using MC (since the early nineties! ) even
if symbolics is not MC's strong suit.

MathCad Prime is useless to me without the symbolics ,
and shipping MC 15 with MathCad Prime does not help.
Indeed, the argument "use an earlier version of MC for symbolics" is absurd.

Anyway, it's nice to see this list is alive again -

Cheers

Marc Artzrouni






and you can expect to see another release of Mathcad Prime in the near future which will continue this process.

Best Regards
Paul Bragg
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RE: [mathcad] From 2001 to 15
Author: Dumke, Bill    Posted: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:27:15 +0000
The reason you ran into problems loading 2001 file in 15 is because the file formats are different. 15 is written in XML. Note the different filename extension. It is xmcd instead of mcd.

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From: Laurent Muller
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Subject: [mathcad] From 2001 to 15

Well...I loaded 15 and it does cohabit peacefully with 2001, just as advised on this List, but backwards compatibility goes only back to 11, so I better keep 15 away from my older files (ranging from 2001 all the way back to DOS)!

I still tried to open a 2001 file though, and was in for a bit of shock, when 15 red flagged a Solve Block with "there is something wrong with this solve block" (or something close to that) when this Solve Block is working flawlessly in 2001. Not a good first impression.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Dumke, Bill"
Sent: Jan 31, 2012 10:46 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [mathcad] MathCad Prime


Marc,

I tried to do a symbolic problem in Mathcad 15, but could not do it directly. A contributor on the PTC Community did come up with a way to do it in Mathcad 15 which worked, but it was awkward. Whereas Mathcad 11, which I understand used the Maple 5 symbolic engine, worked fine, once I learned that “lh” meant left hand.

So maybe there is a point to “use an earlier version of MC for symbolics”. Although I doubt this is what PTC meant, since there is no money in Mathcad 11.

Bill

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From: Marc Artzouni
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:30 AM
To:
Subject: [mathcad] MathCad Prime

Le 31/01/2012 10:49, a écrit :
The first fruit of this work was Mathcad Prime 1.0 which was a step along the way to transforming Mathcad ...

My information is that MathCad Prime does not do symbolic calculations -
If that information is correct, I am totally baffled as symbolics is
my principal reason for using MC (since the early nineties! ) even
if symbolics is not MC's strong suit.

MathCad Prime is useless to me without the symbolics ,
and shipping MC 15 with MathCad Prime does not help.
Indeed, the argument "use an earlier version of MC for symbolics" is absurd.

Anyway, it's nice to see this list is alive again -

Cheers

Marc Artzrouni






and you can expect to see another release of Mathcad Prime in the near future which will continue this process.

Best Regards
Paul Bragg
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RE: [mathcad] From 2001 to 15
Author: Dumke, Bill    Posted: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:37:08 +0000
Here is another suggestion that might help you. Once upon a time there was a Mathcad Reader for Version 8. It would execute files, but you couldn’t change anything. There might still be a copy of it lurking in a dark corner of the Internet somewhere.

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From: Laurent Muller
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:12 PM
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Subject: [mathcad] From 2001 to 15

Well...I loaded 15 and it does cohabit peacefully with 2001, just as advised on this List, but backwards compatibility goes only back to 11, so I better keep 15 away from my older files (ranging from 2001 all the way back to DOS)!

I still tried to open a 2001 file though, and was in for a bit of shock, when 15 red flagged a Solve Block with "there is something wrong with this solve block" (or something close to that) when this Solve Block is working flawlessly in 2001. Not a good first impression.
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Marc,

I tried to do a symbolic problem in Mathcad 15, but could not do it directly. A contributor on the PTC Community did come up with a way to do it in Mathcad 15 which worked, but it was awkward. Whereas Mathcad 11, which I understand used the Maple 5 symbolic engine, worked fine, once I learned that “lh” meant left hand.

So maybe there is a point to “use an earlier version of MC for symbolics”. Although I doubt this is what PTC meant, since there is no money in Mathcad 11.

Bill

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From: Marc Artzouni
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:30 AM
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Subject: [mathcad] MathCad Prime

Le 31/01/2012 10:49, a écrit :
The first fruit of this work was Mathcad Prime 1.0 which was a step along the way to transforming Mathcad ...

My information is that MathCad Prime does not do symbolic calculations -
If that information is correct, I am totally baffled as symbolics is
my principal reason for using MC (since the early nineties! ) even
if symbolics is not MC's strong suit.

MathCad Prime is useless to me without the symbolics ,
and shipping MC 15 with MathCad Prime does not help.
Indeed, the argument "use an earlier version of MC for symbolics" is absurd.

Anyway, it's nice to see this list is alive again -

Cheers

Marc Artzrouni






and you can expect to see another release of Mathcad Prime in the near future which will continue this process.

Best Regards
Paul Bragg
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RE: [mathcad] From 2001 to 15
Author: Zeftel, Mona    Posted: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:59:19 -0500
Laurent,


I suspect that your solve block did not work, because in Mathcad 12 through 15, we use static unit checking, which means that units are checked before being used in a function. That affects some constructs that worked in earlier versions of Mathcad. Mathcad Prime 1.0 and future releases of Mathcad Prime use dynamic unit checking, as did earlier versions of Mathcad.


If you look in the Upgrade Guide in Mathcad 15, under the Tutorials, you will see some advice on how dynamic unit checking works.



If that is not helpful, then I suggest you post your worksheet to http://communities.ptc.com/community/mathcad, and someone can help you.



Best regards,


Mona





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From: Laurent Muller
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:12 PM
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Subject: [mathcad] From 2001 to 15



Well...I loaded 15 and it does cohabit peacefully with 2001, just as advised on this List, but backwards compatibility goes only back to 11, so I better keep 15 away from my older files (ranging from 2001 all the way back to DOS)!

I still tried to open a 2001 file though, and was in for a bit of shock, when 15 red flagged a Solve Block with "there is something wrong with this solve block" (or something close to that) when this Solve Block is working flawlessly in 2001. Not a good first impression.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Dumke, Bill"
Sent: Jan 31, 2012 10:46 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [mathcad] MathCad Prime




Marc,



I tried to do a symbolic problem in Mathcad 15, but could not do it directly. A contributor on the PTC Community did come up with a way to do it in Mathcad 15 which worked, but it was awkward. Whereas Mathcad 11, which I understand used the Maple 5 symbolic engine, worked fine, once I learned that “lh” meant left hand.



So maybe there is a point to “use an earlier version of MC for symbolics”. Although I doubt this is what PTC meant, since there is no money in Mathcad 11.



Bill



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From: Marc Artzouni
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:30 AM
To:
Subject: [mathcad] MathCad Prime



Le 31/01/2012 10:49, a écrit :

The first fruit of this work was Mathcad Prime 1.0 which was a step along the way to transforming Mathcad ...


My information is that MathCad Prime does not do symbolic calculations -
If that information is correct, I am totally baffled as symbolics is
my principal reason for using MC (since the early nineties! ) even
if symbolics is not MC's strong suit.

MathCad Prime is useless to me without the symbolics ,
and shipping MC 15 with MathCad Prime does not help.
Indeed, the argument "use an earlier version of MC for symbolics" is absurd.

Anyway, it's nice to see this list is alive again -

Cheers

Marc Artzrouni








and you can expect to see another release of Mathcad Prime in the near future which will continue this process.

Best Regards
Paul Bragg
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