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Thomson Reuters:"Re: Author Inputs" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 01:08:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Author Inputs
Author: CrazyGecko (Enthusiast)
Date: 09-09-2010 09:08 AM

Author names (whether singular or multiple) may be entered in first name last name (e.g., Sherlock Holmes) or last name firstname (e.g., Holmes, Sherlock) order. Both formats are correct and actually could be used interchangeably within the same reference.  The only rule governing multiple authors is to enter one author per line.   Determining which sequence (first-last or last-first)  to use is a matter of personal preference but the following considerations made me favor using a last name, first name sequence:   1. EndNote has an option to display (in the library) all authors listed in the Author field and I find having them listed by last name, first name is easier to see/scan; and   2. EndNote's  "Suggest Terms as You Type" feature suggests author names based on the assumption that names are entered with the last name first.


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Author Inputs" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:38:25 -0700
Subject: Re: Author Inputs
Author: Leanne (Mentor)
Date: 09-09-2010 03:38 PM

Certainly it shouldn't say to enter   Firstname<comma> Last Name?  anywhere.  That would make endnote think the Firstname is the Lastname.  Where did you see this?  in the Getting Started Guide?   The best reason to enter them (manually, only if absolutely necessary) as   Lastname, Firstname   is that double barreled names will come out correctly.  If you enter them   Firstname van der Something   Endnote will assume the last name is ... well , the Lastname!  like this:    Something, Firstname van der   and abbreviate it like this   Something, F v d   but   van der Something, Firstname   will be correctly handled.    (And if you are persnickety and want this listed alphabetically under "Something" and not "van" those should be entered into the preferences "sorting" ignore list.)


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Author Inputs" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:29:35 -0700
Subject: Re: Author Inputs
Author: CWBillow (Regular)
Date: 09-09-2010 05:29 PM

CrazyGecko, I think you're right, I prefer it last name first as well.   Leanne, sorrow about the firstname comma lastname.  You of course are right.   What the book "Getting Started" did do (to me at least) was have the person enter it both ways, with unclear reasoning for doing so.   AAMOF, one of the things I like especially about EN is its having to seemingly covered all of the bases.   Thanks both, Chuck 


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Author Inputs" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:51:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Author Inputs
Author: jrpkid (New User)
Date: 09-09-2010 06:51 PM

Hi!  This post was very helpful to me, as I have been having trouble entering multiple authors.  However, I am still having trouble entering multiple authors where one's name has a Jr. on the end of it.  For example, John Smith, Jr.  I have tried entering it as   First author John Smith, Jr.   This outputs the second name as "Jr. John Smith"   "Smith, Jr., John" outputs the second name as "Jr. Smith, John"     "Jr., John Smith" outputs John Smith Jr.   "Jr., John Smith," outputs John Smith Jr.   Help!


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Author Inputs" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:54:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Author Inputs
Author: jrpkid (New User)
Date: 09-09-2010 06:54 PM

Yikes.  Of course, just after posting that I figured it out.   If it helps anyone else, it has to be entered as:   Smith, John, Jr.   Odd, but it works.


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Author Inputs" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:20:05 -0700
Subject: Re: Author Inputs
Author: Leanne (Mentor)
Date: 09-09-2010 07:19 PM

you got it!  If it helps at all, asking the Endnote X4 help, index, entering "jr." brings up the section of the help which addresses this.    Good place to  remind new users that a corporate name gets a comma at the end, (or a double comma in it, if it contains a comma). 


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Author Inputs" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:55:35 -0700
Subject: Re: Author Inputs
Author: CrazyGecko (Enthusiast)
Date: 09-09-2010 08:55 PM

jrpkid - your post is another reminder as to why entering names on a "last name first" basis is a preferable choice. As for entering "Jr", it may also depend on particulars of  the Chicago style (or others) so check the manual.  But here are some options:   Enter name as:   Smith, John, Jr.    [this is recommended by the EndNote manual] Outputs as:          Smith, John, Jr.   Enter name as:   Smith Jr.,, John      [note the insertion of double commas] Outputs as:          Smith Jr., John


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