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Unicode and EndNote 8
Author: John East    Posted: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:29:56 +1000
We have been testing the Unicode support in EndNote 8, using a small sample of references in four languages: Russian, Modern Greek, Chinese, Japanese. The results have generally been good. There don't seem to be any problems with creating references or inserting them into a Word document. Sorting may be an issue in some cases. Alphabetic scripts like Russian and Greek seem to sort correctly, but the non-alphabetic scripts (Chinese and Japanese) do not sort according to any of the established conventions. This is not a problem if you are using a numbered style, or a footnote style without a separate bibliography. The findings are summarized on our website at: http://www.library.uq.edu.au/endnote/unicode8/ This is certainly not the final word on EndNote 8 and Unicode, but it may be helpful to others. And it's nice to have some good news about EndNote 8 (for a change). John East University of Queensland Library Email: /> ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: Unicode and EndNote 8
Author: Michael Power    Posted: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:34:02 +1000
John, >There don't seem to be any problems >with creating references or inserting them into a Word document. I have had one (and have reported it); I'm interested to know if it's language-specific. When any field (I've tried author, title, secondary title, and date) in an en.8 record contains unicode characters in the Greek/Coptic and Greek Extended character-sets, printers' quotes, and en- and em-dashes turn into Japanese (katakana) characters. > en-dash (U&H2013) becomes <control> Start of Guarded Area (U&H0096) > em-dash (U&H2014) becomes <control> End of Guarded Area (U&H0097) > left single quotation mark (U&H2018) becomes Halfwidth Katakana Letter > Mu (U&HFF91) > right single quotation mark (U&H2019) becomes Halfwidth Katakana Letter > Me (U&HFF92) > left double quotation mark (U&H201C) becomes Halfwidth Katakana Letter > Mo (U&HFF93) > right double quotation mark (U&H201D) becomes Halfwidth Katakana Letter > Ya (U&HFF94) > > Interestingly enough, the "figure dash" (U&H2012) is not affected. That is, when you type Greek characters in a title, close the reference, and open it again (or insert it into word, look at the preview, etc.) you'll see that en-dashes become little boxes, curly quotes become Japanese.... ISI's first response was to question whether my fonts can cope (they can), and then acknowledged that it's a bug. Michael ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: Unicode and EndNote 8
Author: Troy Sagrillo    Posted: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:22:22 +0200
on 27.09.2004 6.29 AM, John East wrote: > We have been testing the Unicode support in EndNote 8, using a small sample > of references in four languages: Russian, Modern Greek, Chinese, Japanese. > > The results have generally been good. There don't seem to be any problems > with creating references or inserting them into a Word document. How about right to left scripts, such as Arabic and Hebrew? I can live without them sorting properly, but if I can't even enter text without a lot of trouble (or at all), then it is a problem. Has anyone tried? Cheers, Troy ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: Unicode and EndNote 8
Author: Gregor Schwarb    Posted: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:25:50 -0500
this subject has been throughly addressed in the past... ----- Original Message ----- From: Troy Sagrillo /> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:22:22 +0200 To: /> Subject: Re: Unicode and EndNote 8 on 27.09.2004 6.29 AM, John East wrote: > We have been testing the Unicode support in EndNote 8, using a small sample > of references in four languages: Russian, Modern Greek, Chinese, Japanese. > > The results have generally been good. There don't seem to be any problems > with creating references or inserting them into a Word document. How about right to left scripts, such as Arabic and Hebrew? I can live without them sorting properly, but if I can't even enter text without a lot of trouble (or at all), then it is a problem. Has anyone tried? Cheers, Troy ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: Unicode and EndNote 8
Author: John East    Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:18:51 +1000
> When any field (I've tried author, title, secondary title, and date) in an > en.8 record contains unicode characters in the Greek/Coptic and Greek > Extended character-sets, printers' quotes, and en- and em-dashes turn into > Japanese (katakana) characters. > That is, when you type Greek characters in a title, close the reference, > and open it again (or insert it into word, look at the preview, etc.) > you'll see that en-dashes become little boxes, curly quotes become > Japanese.... Thanks for this information. The problem is not language-specific. I inserted an en-dash into a Russian reference, and it looked OK until I closed the reference. Then it turned into a little box. John East University of Queensland Library Email: /> ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: Unicode and EndNote 8
Author: Troy Sagrillo    Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:14:52 +0200
on 28.09.2004 7.25 PM, Gregor Schwarb wrote: > this subject has been throughly addressed in the past... Since Gregor couldn't be bothered to write anything of use and I don't currently own a time machine, could someone else perhaps address my original question below in a slightly more informed way? Many thanks! Troy > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Troy Sagrillo /> > How about right to left scripts, such as Arabic and Hebrew? I can live > without them sorting properly, but if I can't even enter text without a lot > of trouble (or at all), then it is a problem. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

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