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Thomson Reuters:"Re: citation for book section" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription

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Thomson Reuters:"Re: citation for book section" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 00:31:11 -0700
Subject: Re: citation for book section
Author: CrazyGecko (Guru)
Date: 10-26-2011 08:31 AM

There may be some confusion about categorizing your book reference.  In checking Google Books, Jack Dougherty appears to be the sole author of the book, so the entry should be classified in EndNote as a "Book" reference - not an Edited Book or Book Section.  When citing the book as an in-text reference and you wish to identify specific pages, then edit the citation in EndNote to include the page numbers: (Dougherty, 2007, pp. 1-18).   Edited books will usually identify the editors on either the cover or inside pages.  Another clue is that the chapters are written by different authors.   _______ Note: To edit in-text citations in EndNote, place your cursor on the citation then right-click to display the submenu. Then click EDIT CITATIONS, MORE to access the Edit Citations dialog box. (An alternative is to place your cursor on the in-text citation then access the Edit Citations command from the MS Word toolbar.)  Then in the Edit & Manage Citations dialog box, just enter the page/page numbers in the PAGES field.


Thomson Reuters:"Re: citation for book section" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:01:11 -0700
Subject: Re: citation for book section
Author: Leanne (Mentor)
Date: 10-26-2011 04:01 PM

In addition,since there is a difference in how they are handled on the two machines, I assume that the Output styles differ on the two machines.  I would open the style on the one that gives what you want, save as to a new name, and email it or put it on a thumbdrive and open it on the other machine, save as to that same name and change your manuscript to point to the newly named output style.    I would do this even when you change this particular record to the appropriate Reference Type. 


Thomson Reuters:"Re: citation for book section" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:57:21 -0700
Subject: Re: citation for book section
Author: sk0412 (Visitor)
Date: 10-30-2011 02:57 AM

Thanks, CrazyGecko. I can't find any mention of book sections for unedited book in APA manual so I guess I will need to just cite them as books.   Hi Leanne.  Sorry for this stupid question but how do I transfer an edited style between computers? Thank you.


Thomson Reuters:"Re: citation for book section" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 00:42:02 -0700
Subject: Re: citation for book section
Author: CrazyGecko (Guru)
Date: 10-30-2011 07:41 AM

sk0412,   Just to clarify, what EndNote refers to as "Book Sections" translates to book chapters written by differen authors.  Such chapters are usually compiled into a book (hence, the book's "editor"). In contrast, an unedited book won't have book sections (i.e., separate chapters written by different authors) - so it should be cited as a book.   To transfer an edited style between computers, locate the .ens output style file which is probably a "Copy" (e.g., APA 6th Copy.ens).  (If you're running Windows (Vista, 7), check the EndNote folder in My Documents; if running XP, check the Programs folder.)  Then copy the style file to a media card, thumb drive, CD/DVD, or even email it to yourself.  Then it's just a matter of opening EndNote on the other computer and copying the style file onto that computer (e.g.,., the EndNote folder in My Documents).


Thomson Reuters:"Re: citation for book section" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:37:51 -0700
Subject: Re: citation for book section
Author: Leanne (Mentor)
Date: 10-30-2011 01:37 PM

As CrazyGecko said, an edited style from Endnote X3 or later will be located in the My Documents/Endnote/Styles folder (no matter which Windows operating system) Only installed endnote styles (that wereinstalled when you installed the program) will be in the Program Folder/Endnote/Styles folder (which is write protected in Vista and latter Windows operating systems).    You should move it to the My documents/Endntoe/Styles folder, or open it with Endnote (it should automatically open in Endnote if you double click it ans let Endnote "save as" and it will automatically save it to the right place and know where to find it. 


Thomson Reuters:"Re: citation for book section" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:54:01 -0700
Subject: Re: citation for book section
Author: sk0412 (Regular)
Date: 10-30-2011 10:53 PM

Thank you so much both of you. It's all working fine now. I totally forgot that the styles are saved in a different folder.   And yes, I will cite them as books only. I had gotten used to taking notes for each chapter in a book and placing them in separate citations so that I can find them easily again and know which came from which chapter of a book quickly and didn't think about the implications on bibliography between edited and non-edited books. I am very grateful for all the advice and help and for making me realise I need to fix up my references now. This will save me a lot of headache later when the time comes to submit my thesis.


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Citation/reference in one or more documents but bibliography in another document" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:52:01 -0700
Subject: Re: Citation/reference in one or more documents but bibliography in another document
Author: Leanne (Mentor)
Date: 10-31-2011 03:51 AM

I don't think so.  Why not ref during the drafting stages in each chapter.  Then when you combine the thing, you can reformat to get a single ref list at the end.  When I am reading a long document, I much prefer the refs to be (Author, Year) as it is more memorable and meaningful as I go thru, needing less flipping to the back to see what is being referred to . Even if you need a numbered style for some reason at the end of the day.    In the end you can choose to use master documents which actually work pretty well, in spite of the bad rap they have from the days when they were a disaster in earlier versions of Word.  Or unformat and reformat after combining the chapters. 


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Citations in footnotes (Word 2007) represent full bibliography text" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:31:41 -0700
Subject: Re: Citations in footnotes (Word 2007) represent full bibliography text
Author: shepparp (New User)
Date: 11-01-2011 01:31 PM

Dear John   I am having the same problem and solved it in the same way however Endnote then does not add the bibliographic output in the bibliography. I think this is becasue Endnote thinks that the output style we select (i.e. same as citations) is refering to the method of having all citations as footnotes on each page. I am only trying to reference a footnote refers to the main text. So either the whole lot is in the footnote... or only the citation but with no corresponding reference in the bibliography.   Can you help?   Many thanks   Paula


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Citations disappear in word" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 07:58:29 -0800
Subject: Re: Citations disappear in word
Author: medmunds (Thomson Reuters)
Date: 11-07-2011 03:58 PM

What output style are you using?


Thomson Reuters:"Re: Citations disappear in word" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 08:34:19 -0800
Subject: Re: Citations disappear in word
Author: gilliann (Moderator)
Date: 11-07-2011 04:34 PM

I would echo medmunds' question, because we have an FAQ that sounds very similar to what you describe... could this be your issue?   http://endnote.com/support/faqs/CWYW/faq24.asp   If this isn't it, do let us know!  


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