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RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1647
Author: Simpson-Haidaris, PJ    Posted: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:53:11 -0400
> Jae-Pil Cho writes: > > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:39:50 -0400 > From: "jcho" /> > Subject: How can I fix a crushed library file (*.enl) > > Hi, > > I'm using EndNote Ver. 7.0. > > After installing the Windows XP SP2, the endnote crused. > > Endnote can open the library file but it does not show any text (but on > the status bar it shows a messaage that "showing 541 out of 541 > reference". > > I am writing my dissertation and I have all reference information in the > library file without backup. > > Is there any way to fix the crushed library file(*.enl) > > > Jae-Pil Cho > Graduate Student Assistant > > Biological Systems Engineering Dept. > Virginia Tech > Blacksburg, VA 24061-0303 > Phone: 540-231-2083 > > Before you try anything, make a backup copy of the library--maybe someone else can help you. Have you tried "recover library..." under File menu? Was the library created in an earlier version of end-note? If so try opening the library with the older version. Are you using a PC or Mac Platform? It is important to re-build the desktop on a Mac every now and then (Hold option and apple control key simultaneously while booting up), especially if you have many different applications open at once and frequently open and close files. PJ Simpson-Haidaris > ---------- > From: /> > Reply To: /> > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2004 2:00 AM > To: /> > Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1647 > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1658
Author: Nathan Wasserman    Posted: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:37:15 -0400
Yes, changing the keyboard to British (instead of US) seems to solve the problem. Many thanks! Nathan On 25 Sep 2004, at 09:00, endnote-interest-digest wrote: > My Bibliography (EN 7; OS X on Mac) has suddenly decided not > to accept > any diacritic signs (such as:à,á,ü,ö,ì,í...). When I try to > type these > sign absolutely nothing happens. I have tried to change the > font of my > file, but again: these signs refuse to be typed. > Any idea what went wrong? > Thanks, Nathan > > > What locale is your keyboard? A user of mine had this problem and it was > because the keyboard was set to US instead of European. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1658
Author: B    Posted: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:47:44 +0100
Where can I find that option? The "Control panel-keyboard" does not give it Thank you ML -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of Nathan Wasserman Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 2:37 PM To: /> Subject: Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1658 Yes, changing the keyboard to British (instead of US) seems to solve the problem. Many thanks! Nathan On 25 Sep 2004, at 09:00, endnote-interest-digest wrote: > My Bibliography (EN 7; OS X on Mac) has suddenly decided not > to accept > any diacritic signs (such as:à,á,ü,ö,ì,í...). When I try to > type these > sign absolutely nothing happens. I have tried to change the > font of my > file, but again: these signs refuse to be typed. > Any idea what went wrong? > Thanks, Nathan > > > What locale is your keyboard? A user of mine had this problem and it was > because the keyboard was set to US instead of European. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1674
Author: David Watkins    Posted: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:59:00 +0100
Re: 2 questions-Humanities Using BOTH dates and issue numbers Perhaps I'm missing something here. Isn't this a problem with the styles as defined by others rather than with EndNote? If it is important to you to search records or external libraries by date - or any other item - make sure this is visible on the input screen. Do this by starting with the 'Generic' screen if necessary and using a custom field (although the 'Date' field in the journal input screen already exists). If the problem is at the output stage and you need to retreive the date, use a style that includes this. If necessary, use 'Show All' - which does exactly what it says it does. This will give the information needed as you march around the library. If you want to integrate it into Chicago or Turbarisn you will need to modify the output style slightly (See the manual - not a big job), but save this with a NEW style name since what you are using is NO LONGER Chicago or Turbarian as normally defined. David Watkins /> on 10/21/2004 07:00:03 AM Please respond to /> Sent by: /> To: /> cc: Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1674 endnote-interest-digest Thursday, October 21 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1674 In this issue: Re: 2 questions-Humanities Need two filters: Dialog files 75 and 13 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:35:57 -0400 From: Karla Huebner /> Subject: Re: 2 questions-Humanities I will say that this is something that just drove me mad about Endnote. When I'm looking on the shelf for bound volumes of journals, I really need to know the month in most cases, because a great many of them paginate anew in each issue and make it really hard to find the volume and issue number. You could spend forever trying to figure out which month you want. Karla Huebner At 01:41 PM 10/18/2004, you wrote: > >Another question: When typing in a date for the field "year" for a >journal, neither Turabian nor Chicago formats include the month and day >for the journal, so I've taken to writing the month and day, when >applicable in the "year" field so it comes out properly (i.e. 12 May >1886, instead of just 1886), but of course this messes up footnotes. >Any suggestions? > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:14:26 -0500 From: /> Subject: Need two filters: Dialog files 75 and 13 Does anyone have filters for Dialog files 75 (Management Contents) or 13 (Business & Management Practices? I'm desperately trying to avoid creating one on my own, which will take me longer than typing in the 50 references! Unfortunately, it seems the management data bses never get filters made for them. Thanks in advance, Maureen Festa Maureen E. Festa, MLS Information Center Librarian Center for Organization, Leadership, and Management Research Boston VA Medical Center (152M) 150 South Huntington Ave Boston, MA 02130 Phone: 617-232-9500 x5647 Fax: 617-278-4438 /> ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ End of endnote-interest-digest V1 #1674 *************************************** ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1674
Author: Peter Brooks    Posted: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:50:21 +0100
-----Original Message----- I will say that this is something that just drove me mad about Endnote. When I'm looking on the shelf for bound volumes of journals, I really need to know the month in most cases, because a great many of them paginate anew in each issue and make it really hard to find the volume and issue number. You could spend forever trying to figure out which month you want. Karla Huebner You have a 'Date' field available in EndNote so why don't you use that? Prof Peter Books Faculty of Science, School of Biological Sciences University of Plymouth Drake Circus Plymouth PL4 8AA ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Turabian/Chicago (was Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1674)
Author: Karla Huebner    Posted: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:44:21 -0400
To respond to those who commented on the remarks about EndNote's implementation of Chicago and Turabian (not including the month in the output), I'm fully aware that one can alter Endnote's Chicago or Turabian output to include any fields desired. But as a humanities scholar brought up on Turabian (with typewriter) and who has used Chicago for quite a few years, I can assure you that it is very ordinary usage to include both the issue number and month or season. I've just looked this up in the Chicago 14th edition. Chicago's attitude is that issue number is not always required (but must be consistently included or left out)--"required only when each issue is paginated separately" (which really depends on your discipline, as in mine they are often not) and that when the month or season is given the issue number "need not be included" either. In other words, while Chicago doesn't insist on both issue and month, it allows both and favors month a bit over issue, whereas EndNote puts issue and leaves out month. I had never thought about this at all until I first used EndNote and was very much dismayed to find that the lists of articles I printed to look for in the library proved very unhelpful because it was so difficult to figure out which bound volume (or where in the correct bound volume) the article was actually in. As I've noted, many major periodicals in my field paginate anew for each issue. The issue number may be in fine print or even lost in the binding process, and the bound volumes are usually on the shelf labeled as something like Jan-Jun 1990. Yes, in this instance Endnote can be configured to do what we humanities people want. I don't think we were really whining unduly to complain that in its standard form it doesn't do what we expected. That said, Chicago is a style that ultimately leaves a great deal up to the choice of the author and publisher. It generally suggests rather than decreeing. This does make it harder for bibliographic software to handle. But Endnote's somewhat limited implementation of humanities styles means that humanities scholars are less likely to use the software. This issue is only one of many that people in my department have run into in our use of Endnote. Others are much less easily dealt with. Karla Huebner At 05:59 AM 10/21/2004, you wrote: >Re: 2 questions-Humanities > > Using BOTH dates and issue numbers > > Perhaps I'm missing something here. Isn't this a problem with the > styles as defined by others rather than with EndNote? If it is > important to you to search records or external libraries by date - or > any other item - make sure this is visible on the input screen. Do this > by starting with the 'Generic' screen if necessary and using a custom > field (although the 'Date' field in the journal input screen already > exists). > > If the problem is at the output stage and you need to retreive the > date, use a style that includes this. If necessary, use 'Show All' - > which does exactly what it says it does. This will give the information > needed as you march around the library. If you want to integrate it > into Chicago or Turbarisn you will need to modify the output style > slightly (See the manual - not a big job), but save this with a NEW > style name since what you are using is NO LONGER Chicago or Turbarian > as normally defined. > > David Watkins ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1680
Author: Peter Brooks    Posted: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:50:33 +0100
As I train a lot of Masters and PhD students I am moved to make a contribution. I am a real technophile but I have a real fear that the techie generation is in danger of letting the software dictate their approach and limit their creativity rather than being seen as just the a tools they are. The notion of accumulating and shuffling 'facts' is something that students should leave behind when they leave high school. It is not consistent with the higher order intellectual functions namely analysis and synthesis. You do not analyse and synthesise by shuffling 'facts' around either on cards, or in Word, or in bibliographic databases. Higher education is about lighting fires not filling pots! You need to build your own concept of your discipline and/or any topic not just accumulate 'facts'. This is something you do by extensive reading and 'thinking': your brain needs to be given the opportunity to give that collection of information a shape and a life of its own. That is what the real intellectual process is about. I have seen many, many, students who collected facts on bits of paper and then tried to string them together to produce an assessment, essay, review paper etc. Inevitably this approach ends up producing something as exciting as a shopping list. The key to the process is reading not software. You should immerse yourself in the topic, reading as much as you can and certainly using a bibliographic database software like EndNote to record what you have read. (The Notes field is huge and you can insert lots of 'facts', quotes and notes in that field if you want to. These are searchable so as long as you use suitable keywords you can always find them again). BUT, when it comes to writing my advice to students is to lay EVERYTHING on one side and get a single piece of paper and write down what they want thier reader to know at the end of your paper WITHOUT REFERING TO ANYTHING. Doing this makes them assemble the ideas in their head, decide what is and is not important and derive their own model of what the topic is all about. For those who say they can't do that the reply is 'well in that case you have not read enough yet or you don't understand enough yet'. When they have done that (and still without referring to any notes they have taken) I get them to take a second piece of paper and write down a list of topic headings and sub-headings that they think they might write under (these can be removed later if not stylistically appropriate - but they are there give the work structure at this stage). Then I get them to take a third piece of paper and try to assemble their list of headings and sub-headings into a story line. A good paper should read as easily as a novel, so I encourage them to construct a list that has a logical progression. Only then are they ready to start writing. STILL WITHOUT GOING BACK TO ANY OF THEIR NOTES this is the time for them to get back on the computer, put in the headings and sub-headings and start to fill in the text. I encourage them not to worry about style and detail at this stage just get down the key ideas and points that they want to share with their reader (always think about the reader - you have to take them by the hand and lead them through the story). When they have a rough first draft of the story they want to tell and they are happy that it unwraps in a logical and sensible way they can go back and start inserting the detail and the evidence (references, quotes, examples etc.) to support their concept. I encourage them to be prepared to go through two or three more drafts fine-tuning the detail, sorting out the English and style and polishing the prose. Using this approach allows the individuals ideas to come through and those ideas to be the driving force in the work. This is the complete opposite of listing ideas ('fact') and then trying to bend them into something that has cohesion. Writing should be creative; it is not like going to the supermarket and selecting facts off the shelf. The process certainly should not be shaped and dictated by Microsoft, or ISI; they are just tools to make the physical bit easier. NO software can do the intellectual bit for you! Prof Peter Brooks Faculty of Science, School of Biological Sciences University of Plymouth Drake Circus Plymouth PL4 8AA Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:34:07 -0500 From: Dale Cyphert /> Subject: Re: Help: Research Tool I hope this thread stays around for some discussion. I've been using Endnotes since my dissertation (3.x, as I recall) and I'm now safely camping out on 6.1...glad not to have "upgraded". I have no big problems with formatting bibs and whatnot, since MLA and APA are as far as my discipline ever goes, but I DO struggle with the organization of ideas. My own "fix" has been to create outlines (in Word, using that very wonderful feature), with citations inserted at every point that would have been, in the "olden" days, an index card. I can then use the outline function to "sort" my "cards" within the outline. This is sort-of-kind-of working for me, but I'd REALLY like to hear what other people are doing. Citations are easy compared to keeping track of the ideas! dale ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1680
Author: Ed    Posted: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:12:23 -0400
As a new PhD student just beginning to learn how to do research and produce a thesis I thought your post was very helpful. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of Peter Brooks Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:51 AM To: Endnote-Interest Subject: RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1680 As I train a lot of Masters and PhD students I am moved to make a contribution. I am a real technophile but I have a real fear that the techie generation is in danger of letting the software dictate their approach and limit their creativity rather than being seen as just the a tools they are. The notion of accumulating and shuffling 'facts' is something that students should leave behind when they leave high school. It is not consistent with the higher order intellectual functions namely analysis and synthesis. You do not analyse and synthesise by shuffling 'facts' around either on cards, or in Word, or in bibliographic databases. Higher education is about lighting fires not filling pots! You need to build your own concept of your discipline and/or any topic not just accumulate 'facts'. This is something you do by extensive reading and 'thinking': your brain needs to be given the opportunity to give that collection of information a shape and a life of its own. That is what the real intellectual process is about. I have seen many, many, students who collected facts on bits of paper and then tried to string them together to produce an assessment, essay, review paper etc. Inevitably this approach ends up producing something as exciting as a shopping list. The key to the process is reading not software. You should immerse yourself in the topic, reading as much as you can and certainly using a bibliographic database software like EndNote to record what you have read. (The Notes field is huge and you can insert lots of 'facts', quotes and notes in that field if you want to. These are searchable so as long as you use suitable keywords you can always find them again). BUT, when it comes to writing my advice to students is to lay EVERYTHING on one side and get a single piece of paper and write down what they want thier reader to know at the end of your paper WITHOUT REFERING TO ANYTHING. Doing this makes them assemble the ideas in their head, decide what is and is not important and derive their own model of what the topic is all about. For those who say they can't do that the reply is 'well in that case you have not read enough yet or you don't understand enough yet'. When they have done that (and still without referring to any notes they have taken) I get them to take a second piece of paper and write down a list of topic headings and sub-headings that they think they might write under (these can be removed later if not stylistically appropriate - but they are there give the work structure at this stage). Then I get them to take a third piece of paper and try to assemble their list of headings and sub-headings into a story line. A good paper should read as easily as a novel, so I encourage them to construct a list that has a logical progression. Only then are they ready to start writing. STILL WITHOUT GOING BACK TO ANY OF THEIR NOTES this is the time for them to get back on the computer, put in the headings and sub-headings and start to fill in the text. I encourage them not to worry about style and detail at this stage just get down the key ideas and points that they want to share with their reader (always think about the reader - you have to take them by the hand and lead them through the story). When they have a rough first draft of the story they want to tell and they are happy that it unwraps in a logical and sensible way they can go back and start inserting the detail and the evidence (references, quotes, examples etc.) to support their concept. I encourage them to be prepared to go through two or three more drafts fine-tuning the detail, sorting out the English and style and polishing the prose. Using this approach allows the individuals ideas to come through and those ideas to be the driving force in the work. This is the complete opposite of listing ideas ('fact') and then trying to bend them into something that has cohesion. Writing should be creative; it is not like going to the supermarket and selecting facts off the shelf. The process certainly should not be shaped and dictated by Microsoft, or ISI; they are just tools to make the physical bit easier. NO software can do the intellectual bit for you! Prof Peter Brooks Faculty of Science, School of Biological Sciences University of Plymouth Drake Circus Plymouth PL4 8AA Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:34:07 -0500 From: Dale Cyphert /> Subject: Re: Help: Research Tool I hope this thread stays around for some discussion. I've been using Endnotes since my dissertation (3.x, as I recall) and I'm now safely camping out on 6.1...glad not to have "upgraded". I have no big problems with formatting bibs and whatnot, since MLA and APA are as far as my discipline ever goes, but I DO struggle with the organization of ideas. My own "fix" has been to create outlines (in Word, using that very wonderful feature), with citations inserted at every point that would have been, in the "olden" days, an index card. I can then use the outline function to "sort" my "cards" within the outline. This is sort-of-kind-of working for me, but I'd REALLY like to hear what other people are doing. Citations are easy compared to keeping track of the ideas! dale ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1680
Author: Mary L Kinnaman    Posted: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:52:18 -0500
Thank you for this excellent contribution. I agree with every point you made, and I will share this valuable contribution with my students as they embark on writing their first scholarly paper. Mary Kinnaman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Brooks" /> To: "Endnote-Interest" /> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:50 AM Subject: RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1680 > As I train a lot of Masters and PhD students I am moved to make a > contribution. I am a real technophile but I have a real fear that the > techie generation is in danger of letting the software dictate their > approach and limit their creativity rather than being seen as just the a > tools they are. > > The notion of accumulating and shuffling 'facts' is something that > students > should leave behind when they leave high school. It is not consistent > with > the higher order intellectual functions namely analysis and synthesis. > You > do not analyse and synthesise by shuffling 'facts' around either on cards, > or in Word, or in bibliographic databases. > > Higher education is about lighting fires not filling pots! > > You need to build your own concept of your discipline and/or any topic not > just accumulate 'facts'. This is something you do by extensive reading > and > 'thinking': your brain needs to be given the opportunity to give that > collection of information a shape and a life of its own. That is what the > real intellectual process is about. > > I have seen many, many, students who collected facts on bits of paper and > then tried to string them together to produce an assessment, essay, review > paper etc. Inevitably this approach ends up producing something as > exciting > as a shopping list. The key to the process is reading not software. You > should immerse yourself in the topic, reading as much as you can and > certainly using a bibliographic database software like EndNote to record > what you have read. (The Notes field is huge and you can insert lots of > 'facts', quotes and notes in that field if you want to. These are > searchable so as long as you use suitable keywords you can always find > them > again). > > BUT, when it comes to writing my advice to students is to lay EVERYTHING > on > one side and get a single piece of paper and write down what they want > thier > reader to know at the end of your paper WITHOUT REFERING TO ANYTHING. > > Doing this makes them assemble the ideas in their head, decide what is and > is not important and derive their own model of what the topic is all > about. > For those who say they can't do that the reply is 'well in that case you > have not read enough yet or you don't understand enough yet'. > > When they have done that (and still without referring to any notes they > have > taken) I get them to take a second piece of paper and write down a list of > topic headings and sub-headings that they think they might write under > (these can be removed later if not stylistically appropriate - but they > are > there give the work structure at this stage). > > Then I get them to take a third piece of paper and try to assemble their > list of headings and sub-headings into a story line. A good paper should > read as easily as a novel, so I encourage them to construct a list that > has > a logical progression. Only then are they ready to start writing. > > STILL WITHOUT GOING BACK TO ANY OF THEIR NOTES this is the time for them > to > get back on the computer, put in the headings and sub-headings and start > to > fill in the text. I encourage them not to worry about style and detail at > this stage just get down the key ideas and points that they want to share > with their reader (always think about the reader - you have to take them > by > the hand and lead them through the story). > > When they have a rough first draft of the story they want to tell and they > are happy that it unwraps in a logical and sensible way they can go back > and > start inserting the detail and the evidence (references, quotes, examples > etc.) to support their concept. I encourage them to be prepared to go > through two or three more drafts fine-tuning the detail, sorting out the > English and style and polishing the prose. > > Using this approach allows the individuals ideas to come through and those > ideas to be the driving force in the work. This is the complete opposite > of > listing ideas ('fact') and then trying to bend them into something that > has > cohesion. > > Writing should be creative; it is not like going to the supermarket and > selecting facts off the shelf. The process certainly should not be shaped > and dictated by Microsoft, or ISI; they are just tools to make the > physical > bit easier. NO software can do the intellectual bit for you! > > > Prof Peter Brooks > Faculty of Science, School of Biological Sciences > University of Plymouth > Drake Circus > Plymouth PL4 8AA > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1680
Author: Nixcell    Posted: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:09:12 -0500
I find it shocking that this information is new to anyone in the academic fields. I think it should be noted that analysis and synthesis require materials to analyze and synthesize, and this is where Endnote is so very valuable to me. Using software to gather sources and other information is a convenience, nothing more. I think it is unfair to blame technology for limited creativity and scope in research writing or other academic fields. If such problems exist, it is the fault of either the student or the education system which failed to show them how to engage in higher-order thought processes. And at the risk of offending someone, I must say that it is incomprehensible to me how someone entering a PhD program can be "just beginning to learn how to do research and produce a thesis." I was comfortable doing such things by my second year of undergraduate work. -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of Ed Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:12 PM To: /> Subject: RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1680 As a new PhD student just beginning to learn how to do research and produce a thesis I thought your post was very helpful. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of Peter Brooks Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:51 AM To: Endnote-Interest Subject: RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1680 As I train a lot of Masters and PhD students I am moved to make a contribution. I am a real technophile but I have a real fear that the techie generation is in danger of letting the software dictate their approach and limit their creativity rather than being seen as just the a tools they are. The notion of accumulating and shuffling 'facts' is something that students should leave behind when they leave high school. It is not consistent with the higher order intellectual functions namely analysis and synthesis. You do not analyse and synthesise by shuffling 'facts' around either on cards, or in Word, or in bibliographic databases. Higher education is about lighting fires not filling pots! You need to build your own concept of your discipline and/or any topic not just accumulate 'facts'. This is something you do by extensive reading and 'thinking': your brain needs to be given the opportunity to give that collection of information a shape and a life of its own. That is what the real intellectual process is about. I have seen many, many, students who collected facts on bits of paper and then tried to string them together to produce an assessment, essay, review paper etc. Inevitably this approach ends up producing something as exciting as a shopping list. The key to the process is reading not software. You should immerse yourself in the topic, reading as much as you can and certainly using a bibliographic database software like EndNote to record what you have read. (The Notes field is huge and you can insert lots of 'facts', quotes and notes in that field if you want to. These are searchable so as long as you use suitable keywords you can always find them again). BUT, when it comes to writing my advice to students is to lay EVERYTHING on one side and get a single piece of paper and write down what they want thier reader to know at the end of your paper WITHOUT REFERING TO ANYTHING. Doing this makes them assemble the ideas in their head, decide what is and is not important and derive their own model of what the topic is all about. For those who say they can't do that the reply is 'well in that case you have not read enough yet or you don't understand enough yet'. When they have done that (and still without referring to any notes they have taken) I get them to take a second piece of paper and write down a list of topic headings and sub-headings that they think they might write under (these can be removed later if not stylistically appropriate - but they are there give the work structure at this stage). Then I get them to take a third piece of paper and try to assemble their list of headings and sub-headings into a story line. A good paper should read as easily as a novel, so I encourage them to construct a list that has a logical progression. Only then are they ready to start writing. STILL WITHOUT GOING BACK TO ANY OF THEIR NOTES this is the time for them to get back on the computer, put in the headings and sub-headings and start to fill in the text. I encourage them not to worry about style and detail at this stage just get down the key ideas and points that they want to share with their reader (always think about the reader - you have to take them by the hand and lead them through the story). When they have a rough first draft of the story they want to tell and they are happy that it unwraps in a logical and sensible way they can go back and start inserting the detail and the evidence (references, quotes, examples etc.) to support their concept. I encourage them to be prepared to go through two or three more drafts fine-tuning the detail, sorting out the English and style and polishing the prose. Using this approach allows the individuals ideas to come through and those ideas to be the driving force in the work. This is the complete opposite of listing ideas ('fact') and then trying to bend them into something that has cohesion. Writing should be creative; it is not like going to the supermarket and selecting facts off the shelf. The process certainly should not be shaped and dictated by Microsoft, or ISI; they are just tools to make the physical bit easier. NO software can do the intellectual bit for you! Prof Peter Brooks Faculty of Science, School of Biological Sciences University of Plymouth Drake Circus Plymouth PL4 8AA Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:34:07 -0500 From: Dale Cyphert /> Subject: Re: Help: Research Tool I hope this thread stays around for some discussion. I've been using Endnotes since my dissertation (3.x, as I recall) and I'm now safely camping out on 6.1...glad not to have "upgraded". I have no big problems with formatting bibs and whatnot, since MLA and APA are as far as my discipline ever goes, but I DO struggle with the organization of ideas. My own "fix" has been to create outlines (in Word, using that very wonderful feature), with citations inserted at every point that would have been, in the "olden" days, an index card. I can then use the outline function to "sort" my "cards" within the outline. This is sort-of-kind-of working for me, but I'd REALLY like to hear what other people are doing. Citations are easy compared to keeping track of the ideas! dale ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1684
Author: Lynn Lavallee    Posted: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:44:42 -0500
I've installed EndNotes Ver 8 and still can't access it through WordPerfect (the toolbar doesn't appear). I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but can't figure out what it might be. I've read everything I can find on add-ins but can't make EndNotes appear the WordPerfect menus or toolbars. Any suggestions? -----Original Message----- From: /> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:00 AM To: /> Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1684 endnote-interest-digest Thursday, November 4 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1684 In this issue: Re: Word X (Mac OS 10.3.5) and EndNote 7 Re: Word X (Mac OS 10.3.5) and EndNote 7 Re: Word X (Mac OS 10.3.5) and EndNote 7 EndNote in-person training Re: EndNote in-person training RE: EndNote in-person training ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:06:45 +0000 From: Diana Kornbrot /> Subject: Re: Word X (Mac OS 10.3.5) and EndNote 7 i have endnote7 with word X it crashes, but i don't think its endnote it is almost always after the spell and grammar check, when i do the whole document, even when there are no endnote references diana On 2 Nov 2004, at 21:27, ivan evans wrote: > Since I installed EndNote 7 on my Mac (OS 10.3.5), Word is prone to > crashing. Is there a compatability problem?? > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > Dr. Diana Kornbrot Head of Health & Human Sciences Research Institute University of Hertfordshire College Lane, Hatfield, Hertfordshire AL10 9AB, UK voice: +44 (0) 170 728 4626 fax: +44 (0) 170 728 5073 email: /> http://www.psy.herts.ac.uk/pub/D.E.Kornbrot/hmpage.html ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:26:31 +1100 From: Robert Owe-Young /> Subject: Re: Word X (Mac OS 10.3.5) and EndNote 7 Ensure you have all the Word/Office updates installed (currently at 10.1.6) and turn off Cite While You Write On 3/11/04 8:27 AM, "ivan evans" alleged: > Since I installed EndNote 7 on my Mac (OS 10.3.5), Word is prone to > crashing. Is there a compatability problem?? > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > Robert Owe-Young Neuroimmunology & Neurovirology UNSW Centre For Immunology, St. Vincent's Hospital. Darlinghurst. NSW. 2010. Australia. TEL: 612-8382-2836 FAX: 612-8382-2391 E-mail: ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:07:39 -0800 From: Dayo Nicole Mitchell /> Subject: Re: Word X (Mac OS 10.3.5) and EndNote 7 EndNote does often cause MacWord to crash. I would not risk using Instant Formatting at all and in really extreme situations, it's possible to *not* install the CWYW add-in at all, and instead enter the raw EndNote fields by using cut and paste from the library. Then install the add-in only temporarily when you need to actually format the entries. EndNote can cause problems with Word simply from having the CWYW add-in installed, whether a doc has EndNote references or not, and whether EndNote is open or not. But if you see problems with MacWord even without the add-in installed, there are a bunch of fixes listed here, that cover a lot of what can go wrong. You might want to try those. http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/TroubleshootingIndex.htm (site doesn't work very well in Safari or OmniWeb, you either have to hit refresh a lot or just try a different browser) Dayo Mitchell U of Oregon On 11/3/04 12:06 AM, "Diana Kornbrot" wrote: > i have endnote7 with word X > it crashes, but i don't think its endnote > it is almost always after the spell and grammar check, when i do the > whole document, even when there are no endnote references > > diana > On 2 Nov 2004, at 21:27, ivan evans wrote: > >> Since I installed EndNote 7 on my Mac (OS 10.3.5), Word is prone to >> crashing. Is there a compatability problem?? >> ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:14:07 -0500 From: "Whiting, Jenifer" /> Subject: EndNote in-person training My name is Jenifer Whiting and I am writing from the Office of Information Technology at Princeton Theological Seminary. We are trying to locate a nearby EndNote expert (librarian or strong user) to come on campus and hold a training session with our faculty.=20 =20 We have a live webcast from EndNote training today for our PhD = students, which I think will be great. However, our faculty really desires a hands-on session. EndNote=20 =20 Any information that you might be able to provide would be most appreciated. If you know of anyone-at your institution or another, especially in the New Jersey, New York or Pennsylvania area-who would = be interested in serving as our trainer, I would love to be in contact = with them. We would be able to pay a modest rate for the training day(s). =20 Thank you, Jenifer Whiting Office of Information Technology Princeton Theological Seminary =20 ________________________________________________________________________ = This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:36:17 -0400 (EDT) From: /> Subject: Re: EndNote in-person training Jenifer - Did you try contacting Thomson Scientific or the EndNote Help Desk to see if they'd send someone? I've had them do this for us in the past, although it's not hands-on training. Karen Albert Fox Chase Cancer Center Phila., PA 19111 /> ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:39:40 -0500 From: "Agrawal, Abha " /> Subject: RE: EndNote in-person training Jenifer, Please contact me at /> for further discussion. My EndNote book is under publication by Springer and is expected to be released in Feb - March '05. Thanks. Abha - -----Original Message----- From: on behalf of Whiting, Jenifer Sent: Wed 11/3/2004 12:14 PM To: Endnote-Interest Cc: Subject: EndNote in-person training My name is Jenifer Whiting and I am writing from the Office of Information Technology at Princeton Theological Seminary. We are trying to locate a nearby EndNote expert (librarian or strong user) to come on campus and hold a training session with our faculty.=20 =20 We have a live webcast from EndNote training today for our PhD = students, which I think will be great. However, our faculty really desires a hands-on session. EndNote=20 =20 Any information that you might be able to provide would be most appreciated. If you know of anyone-at your institution or another, especially in the New Jersey, New York or Pennsylvania area-who would = be interested in serving as our trainer, I would love to be in contact = with them. We would be able to pay a modest rate for the training day(s). =20 Thank you, Jenifer Whiting Office of Information Technology Princeton Theological Seminary =20 ________________________________________________________________________ = This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ End of endnote-interest-digest V1 #1684 *************************************** ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #1693
Author: Paul Doody    Posted: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:12:34 -0000
Hi All, Well, I've had quite enough of Endnote 8. It now crashes whenever I try to open the preferences. I want to tuck my tail between my legs and return to version 7. However, I've made significant additions to my libraries since upgrading. Is there a way to regress my library files from ver 8 to ver 7? Thanks everyone. Best, Allie Reply Allie I too have gone back to En7. You can try exporting the relevant records in a suitable format ("Refer Export" works well) and then import them to En7. Paul _ The information contained in this e-mail message (and any attachment transmitted herewith) is privileged and confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not an addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact us immediately so that we can correct the error. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

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