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Author: Robert Gorman    Posted: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:23:29 +1000
EN7, Word XP 2002 SP3 I have a 200 page word document with a 50 page bibliography. It contains several subdocuments, text boxes and graphics. The citations have been mixed up, so that they are moved up one place. eg. the 20th citation in the doc is where the 19th should be, etc etc to the last citation. After about page 20 where I was editing, EVERY citation is in the wrong place. If I knew how I or Endnote did it I could put them back!!! Also some citations have had their author and year be associated with the wrong record number, usually the next citation or one with the same year. eg. {Bloggs, 1999 #58} should be {Smith, 1999 #58}, Bloggs, 1999 is actually {Bloggs, 1999 #25) This happened with CWYW active and may be associated with refs in the text box, but I am not sure. I would love a solution. Thanks, Robert ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: Mixed up citations
Author: Wiedemann, Leanne    Posted: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:46:22 -0500
This is a bug that has been described before (for the best discussion, search the archives at http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/endnote/form.html for "citations move up" or "reshuffled". I recommend you ask tech support if they can restore the document- they might have a trick? Also if you read the archives, don't miss the point about how not to join adjacent citations- never do this on a formatted reference. In my hands, placing two references next to each other without spaces, endnote manages to merge them just fine. And finally, if you are going to muck around with the citations, do it with CWYW off and the references unformatted. Leanne -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Robert Gorman Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: Mixed up citations EN7, Word XP 2002 SP3 I have a 200 page word document with a 50 page bibliography. It contains several subdocuments, text boxes and graphics. The citations have been mixed up, so that they are moved up one place. eg. the 20th citation in the doc is where the 19th should be, etc etc to the last citation. After about page 20 where I was editing, EVERY citation is in the wrong place. If I knew how I or Endnote did it I could put them back!!! Also some citations have had their author and year be associated with the wrong record number, usually the next citation or one with the same year. eg. {Bloggs, 1999 #58} should be {Smith, 1999 #58}, Bloggs, 1999 is actually {Bloggs, 1999 #25) This happened with CWYW active and may be associated with refs in the text box, but I am not sure. I would love a solution. Thanks, Robert ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: Mixed up citations
Author: Michael Power    Posted: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:46:02 +1000
This sounds like a familiar (and most annoying) problem. It doesn't seem to happen in en.8, but I only tried it quickly on a short document. Anyway, the problem is described below; the solution is (if you notice quickly) to use word's undo command (multiple times) or re-load from a backup copy. Michael >To: /> >Subject: Report on reshuffled citations in EN7 > > >Francisco, >I think I had a problem similar to yours; I didn't fix it as such, but >worked out what was going on and just avoided doing it. >I was editing a document from which I had extracted a travelling library; >every time I tried to combine two citations (by deleting intervening >characters and then waiting for word/cwyw to reformat the citation) it >would delete the *next* citation, and move all following citations up one >position to compensate. >Inserting multiple citations from my endnote library simultaneously did not >seem to create this problem, so if I needed to combine citations, I just >deleted them and inserted them again (together) from my en. library. > > >I presume my problem was an issue with the cwyw function in word, and I'm >assuming yours is too. > > >Does your problem occur *every* time you format citations? >At any rate, I suggest you report it to ISI technical support. > > >PS: if you notice immediately, you can use Word's undo command to fix this >problem. Click the little drop-down-arrow to the right of the undo button >in the toolbar, and scroll down until you come to the last action that >starts with "vba.range" (about 15 actions per citation), and click it. > > > >At 08:47 AM 11/09/2004 +0100, you wrote: > >Dear all, > > > >Here is a report of my most bizarre (and despairing) experience with EN so > >far. I use EN7 and Word XP, and have recently upgraded to Win XP (SP1). The > >problem did not occur under Win Me, but it occurs consistently on the Win >XP > >computer. Briefly put, the issue is that whenever I format citations in a > >document, all citations get reshuffled. Yes, you got it right: all >citations > >in endnotes, formatted in Chicago A style, get into each other's places in > >kaleidoscopic fashion. The software not only formats citations; it > >redistributes them, apparently at random. Endnotes having undergone this > >treatment seem like an exercise in nonsense. This last occurred to me when >I > >was doing the final formatting for a book; so I had to replace all >endnotes, > >one by one, from backup files. Has this occurred to anyone else yet?? Any > >ideas on what may be happening? > > > >Francisco Vaz da Silva At 06:23 PM 21/10/2004 +1000, you wrote: >EN7, Word XP 2002 SP3 > >I have a 200 page word document with a 50 page bibliography. It contains >several subdocuments, text boxes and graphics. >The citations have been mixed up, so that they are moved up one place. eg. >the 20th citation in the doc is where the 19th should be, etc etc to the >last citation. After about page 20 where I was editing, EVERY citation is in >the wrong place. If I knew how I or Endnote did it I could put them back!!! >Also some citations have had their author and year be associated with the >wrong record number, usually the next citation or one with the same year. >eg. {Bloggs, 1999 #58} should be {Smith, 1999 #58}, Bloggs, 1999 is >actually {Bloggs, 1999 #25) >This happened with CWYW active and may be associated with refs in the text >box, but I am not sure. >I would love a solution. >Thanks, Robert > > >________________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >Security System. > >________________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >Security System. > >________________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >Security System. > >________________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: Mixed up citations
Author: Francisco Vaz Da Silva    Posted: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:34:22 +0100
Robert, Your sort of problem has cropped up before; you may want to check the archives: http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/endnote/endnote_Sep_2004/shid_5e499bfb9e3c57 0e6031f9d168defad7.html Good luck, Francisco Vaz da Silva -------------------------------------------------------------- ISCTE - Dept. Antropologia Av. das Forças Armadas 1649-026 Lisboa  PORTUGAL Fax: (+351) 217 903 012    Email: /> -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:23:29 +1000 > From: Robert Gorman /> > Subject: Mixed up citations > > EN7, Word XP 2002 SP3 > > I have a 200 page word document with a 50 page bibliography. It contains > several subdocuments, text boxes and graphics. > The citations have been mixed up, so that they are moved up one place. eg. > the 20th citation in the doc is where the 19th should be, etc etc to the > last citation. After about page 20 where I was editing, EVERY citation is > in > the wrong place. If I knew how I or Endnote did it I could put them > back!!! > Also some citations have had their author and year be associated with the > wrong record number, usually the next citation or one with the same year. > eg. {Bloggs, 1999 #58} should be {Smith, 1999 #58}, Bloggs, 1999 is > actually {Bloggs, 1999 #25) > This happened with CWYW active and may be associated with refs in the text > box, but I am not sure. > I would love a solution. > Thanks, Robert ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Mixed up citations
Author: GIMENO Javier    Posted: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:28:50 +0200
Hello All, I just updated to EndNote version 8 from version 6, under Windows XP and Word XP, and I had the same problem with reshuffling references. This was most annoying, since I had to enter again all citations in their proper places using an older printout of the paper. I was using the CWYW features. Now, I just try to keep them unformatted, and never add or delete a citation from the "Edit Citation" menu in the mouse toolbar. I hope this will work. It seems that this is a recurring problem experienced by several people. Has anyone reported this to the company? Has the company offered a solution or patch? If there is a company representative monitoring this listserve (and I am sure there is ) could you please let us know why this problem occurs an what you are doing to solve it? I must confess that I am very dissapointed after the upgrade experience. I assume that the upgrade would work more reliable than the previous version, but I have my doubts. Thanks Javier Gimeno Associate Professor of Strategy INSEAD ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

Re: Mixed up citations
Author: Herldine Radley    Posted: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:22:44 -0500
This problem came up with v.7 for one of the Admin. Assistants on campus. We worked at the problem and finally fixed it. The only thing we did was to uncheck the Word option, Smart tags. Everything went back in the correct place. Herldine Radley UT Southwestern Library 5323 Harry Hines Blvd Dallas TX 75390-9049 214-648-2589 972-558-7813 pg /> >>> 10/21/2004 3:23:29 AM >>> EN7, Word XP 2002 SP3 I have a 200 page word document with a 50 page bibliography. It contains several subdocuments, text boxes and graphics. The citations have been mixed up, so that they are moved up one place. eg. the 20th citation in the doc is where the 19th should be, etc etc to the last citation. After about page 20 where I was editing, EVERY citation is in the wrong place. If I knew how I or Endnote did it I could put them back!!! Also some citations have had their author and year be associated with the wrong record number, usually the next citation or one with the same year. eg. {Bloggs, 1999 #58} should be {Smith, 1999 #58}, Bloggs, 1999 is actually {Bloggs, 1999 #25) This happened with CWYW active and may be associated with refs in the text box, but I am not sure. I would love a solution. 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