Help

Author: M Alahmed Posted: 28/09/2000 10:38:49 GDT

Dear All

This question might be known for everybody but forgive me for asking since
I have just joined the list. My question is related to downloading
references form WOS to endnote3.0. Please can someone tell me how that can
be done.

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Re: Help

Author: Hazel Davey Posted: 29/09/2000 09:50:01 GDT

On 28 Sep 2000, at 10:38, M. Alahmed wrote:

> This question might be known for everybody but forgive me for asking
> since I have just joined the list. My question is related to
> downloading references form WOS to endnote3.0. Please can someone
> tell me how that can be done.

1. In WoS mark the refs you wish to download + press submit (or
simply choose "mark all").
2. Go to the Marked list screen click. At the bottom is a set of
check boxes - select the downloading options there.
3. Click the "save to file" button located just above the check
boxes.
4. In Endnote select file-import and select the "ISI-web-of-science"
import filter (in the ISI directory).

Hope that helps,
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HELP: converting from early EN and Word 5.1

Author: Michael Edwards Posted: 23/10/2000 12:19:07 GDT

I am converting from Word5.1 and ENPlus Plug In Module version 1.3 (Mac)
to Word 98 (Mac) and EN 4.

I have a problem with papers containing citations made in EN 1.3:
the EN citation markers (which are graphic objects like square
brackets with a central cross-bar) do NOT convert themselves to the
simple square brackets [] which EN4 requires.

The manual says that this conversion happens automatically when a
bibliography is formatted. But it does not.

It also says I can do the conversion by running a macro
ConvertWord5Objects.MAIN
But my macros file contains no such macro. The closest is a macro
called "ConvertObjects" which resides in the Word Commands folder of
Word 98. This macro seems to achieve nothing.

Any ideas? Do I need to get hold of the missing macro? If so, where from?

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Re: HELP: converting from early EN and Word 5.1

Author: Ingvar Ericson Posted: 24/10/2000 08:02:50 GDT

>It also says I can do the conversion by running a macro
>ConvertWord5Objects.MAIN
>But my macros file contains no such macro. The closest is a macro
>called "ConvertObjects" which resides in the Word Commands folder of
>Word 98. This macro seems to achieve nothing.
>
>Any ideas? Do I need to get hold of the missing macro? If so, where from?

Michael,

This gets a bit lengthy, so I'd rather refer you to the EndNote tech
support pages. Please connect to:
http://www.endnote.com/home/ENen_ts.htm and check out the Issue ID's
1014, 853, 178 and possibly also 828.

Best regards

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Re: HELP: converting from early EN and Word 5.1

Author: Michael Edwards Posted: 25/10/2000 10:34:46 GDT

Ingvar

Thanks a lot. Issue 1014 does not exist but the route via RTF really
works. Thanks very much. Michael
>snip
>
>This gets a bit lengthy, so I'd rather refer you to the EndNote tech
>support pages. Please connect to:
>http://www.endnote.com/home/ENen_ts.htm and check out the Issue ID's
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HELP: converting from early EN and Word 5.1

Author: Michael Edwards Posted: 07/11/2000 09:01:23 GMT

I really am stuck, despite a list-member's helpful advice (can't
remember his name, but thanks) in response to an earlier version of
this query - reproduced below the dotted line.

We have some massive files which
were created in Word 5.1 for Mac
had hundreds of EN1.3 Plug-in Module citations inserted
moved to a PC
was converted back to MacWord 5.1
would then not "format bibliography" in MacWord 5.1
is now in Word 98 on a Mac
still won't format bibliog
won't respond either to the procedure kindly suggested (via saving
the formatted file as RTF and reopening) - because we haven't got a
formatted version of the file.

We are thus totally stuck. Loth to start again as it would take a
week to re-insert all the citations in EN4. Also reluctant to go
back to a backup of the original 5.1 version because weeks of
subsequent work have been done on the file - including a lot of
complicated fields in W98. Each file is nearly 1MB.
Is there any point doing what the manual says to such a badly abused
file - i.e. running a macro called ConvertWord5Objects.MAIN ? has
anyone ever tried that? If so, where can we get the macro from?

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original query:
I am converting from Word5.1 and ENPlus Plug In Module version 1.3 (Mac)
to Word 98 (Mac) and EN 4.

I have a problem with papers containing citations made in EN 1.3:
the EN citation markers (which are graphic objects like square
brackets with a central cross-bar) do NOT convert themselves to the
simple square brackets [] which EN4 requires.

The manual says that this conversion happens automatically when a
bibliography is formatted. But it does not.

It also says I can do the conversion by running a macro
ConvertWord5Objects.MAIN
But my macros file contains no such macro. The closest is a macro
called "ConvertObjects" which resides in the Word Commands folder of
Word 98. This macro seems to achieve nothing.

Any ideas? Do I need to get hold of the missing macro? If so, where from?
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I really am stuck, despite a list-member's helpful advice (can't remember
his name, but thanks) in response to an earlier version of this query -
reproduced below the dotted line.
We have some massive files which
· were created in Word 5.1 for Mac
· had hundreds of EN1.3 Plug-in Module citations inserted
· moved to a PC
· was converted back to MacWord 5.1
· would then not "format bibliography" in MacWord 5.1
· is now in Word 98 on a Mac
· still won't format bibliog
· won't respond either to the procedure kindly suggested (via saving
the formatted file as RTF and reopening) - because we haven't got a
formatted version of the file.
We are thus totally stuck. Loth to start again as it would take a week to
re-insert all the citations in EN4. Also reluctant to go back to a backup
of the original 5.1 version because weeks of subsequent work have been done
on the file - including a lot of complicated fields in W98. Each file is
nearly 1MB.
Is there any point doing what the manual says to such a badly abused file -
i.e. running a macro called ConvertWord5Objects.MAIN ? has anyone ever
tried that? If so, where can we get the macro from?
********************************
original query:
I am converting from Word5.1 and ENPlus Plug In Module version 1.3 (Mac)
to Word 98 (Mac) and EN 4.
I have a problem with papers containing citations made in EN 1.3: the EN
citation markers (which are graphic objects like square brackets with a
central cross-bar) do NOT convert themselves to the simple square brackets
[] which EN4 requires.
The manual says that this conversion happens automatically when a
bibliography is formatted. But it does not.

It also says I can do the conversion by running a macro
ConvertWord5Objects.MAIN
But my macros file contains no such macro. The closest is a macro called
"ConvertObjects" which resides in the Word Commands folder of Word 98. This
macro seems to achieve nothing.
Any ideas? Do I need to get hold of the missing macro? If so, where from?
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HELP: converting from early EN and Word 5.1 (Mac)

Author: Michael Edwards Posted: 03/12/2000 17:03:28 GMT

Converting Word 5 (EN plug-in module) documents to Word 98

List members have been very helpful with suggestions and their ideas,
combined with the manual, have led us to compile the following
procedure list for ourselves - see the end of this message. However
it still fails often so we are desperate for any more help....
The problem can now be distilled as:

Using Macs (various) we are failing to convert (to Mac Word 98) a lot
of files created in Word 5.1 with the EN Plug-in module. They are
files which format and unformat perfectly within 5.1 but which the
EN4 add in will not accept even after we have tried ALL the
procedures listed below. Whatever we do, we end up with the dialog
instructing us to .....save as RTF....etc.

This is what we have tried:

0. make a safe copy of the W5.1 document and do your experiments on
a duplicate.

1. In theory.....the official advice is....
When opening a Word 5 Plug-In Module or Word 6 Add-in document in
Word 98, running the Format Bibliography or Unformat Citations
command will convert that document into a Word 98 Add-in document.

2. But if that fails try...
Close word 98; open word 5.1
Open your document
Go to Tools >>>>Commands>>>EndNote convert from Module.
Save the results.
Try opening in Word 98

3. If that fails, try....
Close word 98; open word 5.1
Open your document
Format the bibliography
Save the formatted version.
then follow these steps....
1. Open word 98 and then open your saved document (the formatted file).

2. Perform a Save As and save it as an RTF document with a different name.

3. Close the RTF document.

4. Re-open the RTF document (it's important to close and re-open the
document and have Word re-convert the document before this will work).

5. Run the Unformat Citations command to convert the document.

6. Save the document as a Word 98 document.
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Help

Author: Molly Munkatchy Posted: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:18:41 -0600

Does anyone know how to insert page numbers into the citations in the
docu

Molly Munkatchy

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RE: Help

Author: Wiedemann, Leanne Posted: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 15:09:32 -0500

Molly

If you want to use the "cited pages" field, you need to incorporate them
into
the style you are using. It is not default, usually.

Edit the style (Edit, output style, choose the style you want them in), then

look at the "citation" section, click on "templates", "Insert Field" button,

and choose, cited pages. Add the appropriate spaces, punctuation, text and
make sure to link any inserted text and punctuation to the field with the
"link adjacent text" options, also available from the drop-down "insert
field" button. If you don't do this, each citation, whether you have cited
pages or not, will have the additional spaces, punctuation, and text.

Or, -much easier - you can just put the pages into the suffix space, with
appropriate punctuation.

Leanne

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Does anyone know how to insert page numbers into the citations in the
docu

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Re: Help

Author: Mark Lea Charter Posted: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:58:25 -0500

Molly,

I have found that the easiest wat to add page numbers to in-text citations
is to (a) select the citation, (b) click on the "Edit citation" icon in the
toolbar, and (c) add the page numbers to the suffixe box in the Edit
citation dialog as I want it to appear in the in-text citation (e.g., ,p.
64).

.jpg of Edit Citation Dialog attached.

Mark

On 10/5/03 10:18 PM, "Molly Munkatchy" "mmunkat1" wrote:

> Does anyone know how to insert page numbers into the citations in the
> docu
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Help

Author: Bruce, Stephen LTC Posted: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:45:05 +0200

To all,
Please help: How do you use manage EN to organize citations into a working
draft, similar to the old "index card" system where each card represented
one fact, and then were arranged by headings, arguments, etc.? Frankly, the
EN manual is not very helpful in this regard.
Basically, I am trying to find an easy method to arrange all the facts under
headings and sub-headings of a paper outline, and then, at the end turn them
into argumentative paragraphs, etc. Sub-questions to this might be:
- Do you make one citation entry for each fact, even if from the same
source?
- How do you use Word headings, sub-headings, in this regard?
I am the Army Senior Fellow for this year at the George C. Marshall European
Center for Security Studies in Garmisch, Germany. I've been asked to
evaluate EndNote and see how we can teach it to and use it in an
international faculty setting, to help increase writing productivity. I am
dealing with an international faculty that understands "classical" research:
the index card system.

Thank you,

S. Mike Bruce
Lieutenant Colonel, United States Army
Army Senior Fellow
George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies

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Re: Help

Author: Peter Mayer Posted: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:05:36 +0930

Hi Mike,

>Mike Bruce wrote:
>Please help: How do you use manage EN to organize citations into a working
>draft, similar to the old "index card" system where each card represented
>one fact, and then were arranged by headings, arguments, etc.? <snip>
>
The short answer, I think, is that EndNote really functions as the
bibliography cards of your classical card system and isn't set up to
perform the index card side of things.
I once figured out a 'work around' which might be of interest,
though. The Abstract field of EndNote will take (from shaky
recollection) about 32k of notes. I tend to put my notes there and then
use the 'search' facility to find the bits I'm looking for. But to turn
them into cards, I exported the particular library, selecting all
entries, and included the abstract in the exported file. I guess I used
the Tab style. I then imported the file into MS Word. Once in Word
things got a bit tedious: I selected and saved each entry as a separate
file. I then opened each disaggregated file, cut and pasted the
bibliographic data into the header (so that the reference appeared on
each 'index card') and inserted page breaks between each 'fact'. Then I
printed them out and cut all the pages in half. It looked lovely, but
took a lot of time, and I haven't repeated the operation since.

best wishes,

Peter Mayer

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RE: Help

Author: Elizabeth Evans Posted: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:48:26 -0700

I would also be interested in hearing other answers to this question, as I
am preparing to enter graduate school and hope to have Endnote on my home
system for papers. I'm a beginning user at work. I am currently putting
together a term paper for a microeconomics class: with index cards, without
EN. I'm using color-coded index cards (one color for each main topic
heading) so I can carry my work around with me; if I had a laptop I might
work on it for the basic research, but I find I need the discipline of
sitting down in the library with my research materials, instead of at a
computer where the distractions of the internet are at my fingertips. I
print out internet documents in the college computer lab to take to the
library, so I can't keep surfing.

So I've been thinking this question through for myself already.

I would suggest setting up a printed bibliography that shows the Reference
Manager ID numbers so they can be easily referenced without leaving the
working document.

>- Do you make one citation entry for each fact, even if from the same
source?

If you want to shuffle individual facts around, you need a way to link the
citations to the facts, which would mean one citation entry per fact in in a
way that keeps them linked. Here's an approach I may experiment with
myself:

1) putting each fact in a table. 1 column for citation # (I would use just
the EN # in curly brackets and turn OFF the
CiteWhileYouWrite feature). 1 column for a key to the outline heading
(either a keyword or a heading number). 1 column for the fact or quotation
from my reference. Excel or Access could also be used in this way, and they
offer the option of setting up a "form" to fill in. Each row is equivalent
to an index card--you could have other columns if they are useful.

The facts can be entered into the table randomly, as the researcher locates
them, then sorted in by one or more columns.
Define the first row as a heading so it will appear on each page (select the
first row, then choose Table Menu:Table Properties:Row and click the check
box "Repeat as header row across each page"). Then sort with Table
Menu:Sort and select the column. You could sort by ID# to review all the
facts organized by source, and sort by Outline # or keyword to sort by
topic.

2) Set up the Word outline in a separate document. Sort the facts by the
outline heading number, covert the table to text (Table Menu:Convert:Table
to text). Cut and paste into the outline and edit into final text, cutting
and pasting the citations into the corrrect places and deleting the outline
numbers.

You also could turn the table into actually index cards: use the table as a
data document and use Word's mailmerge feature to print each row as a
separate card. The same people who make laser printer labels make sheets of
perforated index cards that can be printed and then separated. (I think 3
per sheet).

The problem with such a rigorous approach for me is that my ideas keep
changing as I work--a draft outline may bear very little resemblance to the
final product. That's the beauty of index cards--you can sort them different
ways to organize the materials.

If you do work with either Word tables OR outline headings, I would suggest
making a one or two page "cheat sheet" on tables, styles and outlines for
your students, as these are very complex features. And in large documents,
outlines can get "broken" so that you have to go into each heading manually
to reset the numbering.

Another approach entirely: does anyone use the Research Notes field for
actual note-taking? EN manuals says that Reference Notes, Abstract, and
Notes will each hold up to 32 K, about 5 pages. You could put notes directly
into the actual reference, then set up a custom style (similar to the
Annotated style supplied by EN) that prints out the reference with the
notes, then cut and paste into your outline. You could set up the four
custom fields for note-taking as well, to separate the notes out into topic
areas or just indicating the sections of the paper where the notes will be
used. Using this approach, you would probably want to have up a separate
library for each paper, and use a main library (if you keep one) for storing
just the basic reference data.

Yet another: use the URL or PDF fields to link to documents containing your
notes. The PDF field doesn't have to be a PDF file; it will link to most
file types. Any field will recognize a URL; I believe several other fields
will recognize file names, but I can't find the list in my manual or help
menu right now.

Elizabeth Evans
Ecological Land Services, Longview WA
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Subject: Help

To all,
Please help: How do you use manage EN to organize citations into a working
draft, similar to the old "index card" system where each card represented
one fact, and then were arranged by headings, arguments, etc.? Frankly, the
EN manual is not very helpful in this regard.
Basically, I am trying to find an easy method to arrange all the facts under
headings and sub-headings of a paper outline, and then, at the end turn them
into argumentative paragraphs, etc. Sub-questions to this might be:
- Do you make one citation entry for each fact, even if from the same
source?
- How do you use Word headings, sub-headings, in this regard?
I am the Army Senior Fellow for this year at the George C. Marshall European
Center for Security Studies in Garmisch, Germany. I've been asked to
evaluate EndNote and see how we can teach it to and use it in an
international faculty setting, to help increase writing productivity. I am
dealing with an international faculty that understands "classical" research:
the index card system.

Thank you,

S. Mike Bruce
Lieutenant Colonel, United States Army
Army Senior Fellow
George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies

Tel: (49) (8821) 750-961 DSN: 314-440-2961
Alternate: -639
Fax: (49) (8821) 750-688 DSN: 314-440-2688

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Re: Help

Author: Gijs Kessler Posted: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:28:40 -0400

I might miss something here, but isn't his what one should use a proper
database application for? FileMakerPro if you are working on a Mac, or
MSAccess if you are working on Windows. Of course you can use Excel as a
database application as well, but it is not so convenient for this purpose.

Gijs Kessler
International Institute of Social History,
Amsterdam

On Oct 27, 2004, at 20:48, Elizabeth Evans wrote:

> I would also be interested in hearing other answers to this question, as I
>
> am preparing to enter graduate school and hope to have Endnote on my home
> system for papers. I'm a beginning user at work. I am currently putting
> together a term paper for a microeconomics class: with index cards,
> without
> EN. I'm using color-coded index cards (one color for each main topic
> heading) so I can carry my work around with me; if I had a laptop I might
> work on it for the basic research, but I find I need the discipline of
> sitting down in the library with my research materials, instead of at a
> computer where the distractions of the internet are at my fingertips. I
> print out internet documents in the college computer lab to take to the
> library, so I can't keep surfing.
>
> So I've been thinking this question through for myself already.
>
> I would suggest setting up a printed bibliography that shows the Reference
>
> Manager ID numbers so they can be easily referenced without leaving the
> working document.
>
>
> - Do you make one citation entry for each fact, even if from the
> same
>
> source?
>
> If you want to shuffle individual facts around, you need a way to link the
>
> citations to the facts, which would mean one citation entry per fact in in
> a
> way that keeps them linked. Here's an approach I may experiment with
> myself:
>
> 1) putting each fact in a table. 1 column for citation # (I would use
> just
> the EN # in curly brackets and turn OFF the
> CiteWhileYouWrite feature). 1 column for a key to the outline heading
> (either a keyword or a heading number). 1 column for the fact or
> quotation
> from my reference. Excel or Access could also be used in this way, and
> they
> offer the option of setting up a "form" to fill in. Each row is
> equivalent
> to an index card--you could have other columns if they are useful.
>
> The facts can be entered into the table randomly, as the researcher
> locates
> them, then sorted in by one or more columns.
> Define the first row as a heading so it will appear on each page (select
> the
> first row, then choose Table Menu:Table Properties:Row and click the check
>
> box "Repeat as header row across each page"). Then sort with Table
> Menu:Sort and select the column. You could sort by ID# to review all the
> facts organized by source, and sort by Outline # or keyword to sort by
> topic.
>
> 2) Set up the Word outline in a separate document. Sort the facts by the
> outline heading number, covert the table to text (Table Menu:Convert:Table
>
> to text). Cut and paste into the outline and edit into final text,
> cutting
> and pasting the citations into the corrrect places and deleting the
> outline
> numbers.
>
> You also could turn the table into actually index cards: use the table as
> a
> data document and use Word's mailmerge feature to print each row as a
> separate card. The same people who make laser printer labels make sheets
> of
> perforated index cards that can be printed and then separated. (I think 3
> per sheet).
>
> The problem with such a rigorous approach for me is that my ideas keep
> changing as I work--a draft outline may bear very little resemblance to
> the
> final product. That's the beauty of index cards--you can sort them
> different
> ways to organize the materials.
>
> If you do work with either Word tables OR outline headings, I would
> suggest
> making a one or two page "cheat sheet" on tables, styles and outlines for
> your students, as these are very complex features. And in large
> documents,
> outlines can get "broken" so that you have to go into each heading
> manually
> to reset the numbering.
>
>
> Another approach entirely: does anyone use the Research Notes field for
> actual note-taking? EN manuals says that Reference Notes, Abstract, and
> Notes will each hold up to 32 K, about 5 pages. You could put notes
> directly
> into the actual reference, then set up a custom style (similar to the
> Annotated style supplied by EN) that prints out the reference with the
> notes, then cut and paste into your outline. You could set up the four
> custom fields for note-taking as well, to separate the notes out into
> topic
> areas or just indicating the sections of the paper where the notes will be
>
> used. Using this approach, you would probably want to have up a separate
> library for each paper, and use a main library (if you keep one) for
> storing
> just the basic reference data.
>
> Yet another: use the URL or PDF fields to link to documents containing
> your
> notes. The PDF field doesn't have to be a PDF file; it will link to most
> file types. Any field will recognize a URL; I believe several other
> fields
> will recognize file names, but I can't find the list in my manual or help
> menu right now.
>
> Elizabeth Evans
> Ecological Land Services, Longview WA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "listmaster"
> "mailto:listmaster" Behalf Of Bruce, Stephen LTC.
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:45 AM
> To: Endnote-Interest
> Subject: Help
>
>
> To all,
> Please help: How do you use manage EN to organize citations into a
> working
> draft, similar to the old "index card" system where each card represented
> one fact, and then were arranged by headings, arguments, etc.? Frankly,
> the
> EN manual is not very helpful in this regard.
> Basically, I am trying to find an easy method to arrange all the facts
> under
> headings and sub-headings of a paper outline, and then, at the end turn
> them
> into argumentative paragraphs, etc. Sub-questions to this might be:
> - Do you make one citation entry for each fact, even if from the same
> source?
> - How do you use Word headings, sub-headings, in this regard?
> I am the Army Senior Fellow for this year at the George C. Marshall
> European
> Center for Security Studies in Garmisch, Germany. I've been asked to
> evaluate EndNote and see how we can teach it to and use it in an
> international faculty setting, to help increase writing productivity. I
> am
> dealing with an international faculty that understands "classical"
> research:
> the index card system.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> S. Mike Bruce
> Lieutenant Colonel, United States Army
> Army Senior Fellow
> George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies
>
> Tel: (49) (8821) 750-961 DSN: 314-440-2961
> Alternate: -639
> Fax: (49) (8821) 750-688 DSN: 314-440-2688
>
> E-Mail: "stephen.bruce"
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Re: Help: Research Tool

Author: Dale Cyphert Posted: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:34:07 -0500

I hope this thread stays around for some discussion. I've been using
Endnotes since my dissertation (3.x, as I recall) and I'm now safely
camping out on 6.1...glad not to have "upgraded".

I have no big problems with formatting bibs and whatnot, since MLA and
APA are as far as my discipline ever goes, but I DO struggle with the
organization of ideas.

My own "fix" has been to create outlines (in Word, using that very
wonderful feature), with citations inserted at every point that would
have been, in the "olden" days, an index card. I can then use the
outline function to "sort" my "cards" within the outline.

This is sort-of-kind-of working for me, but I'd REALLY like to hear what
other people are doing. Citations are easy compared to keeping track of
the ideas!

dale

Peter Mayer wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
>
>>Mike Bruce wrote:
>>Please help: How do you use manage EN to organize citations into a
working
>>draft, similar to the old "index card" system where each card represented
>>one fact, and then were arranged by headings, arguments, etc.? <snip>
>>
> The short answer, I think, is that EndNote really functions as the
> bibliography cards of your classical card system and isn't set up to
> perform the index card side of things.
> I once figured out a 'work around' which might be of interest,
> though. The Abstract field of EndNote will take (from shaky
> recollection) about 32k of notes. I tend to put my notes there and then
> use the 'search' facility to find the bits I'm looking for. But to turn
> them into cards, I exported the particular library, selecting all
> entries, and included the abstract in the exported file. I guess I used
> the Tab style. I then imported the file into MS Word. Once in Word
> things got a bit tedious: I selected and saved each entry as a separate
> file. I then opened each disaggregated file, cut and pasted the
> bibliographic data into the header (so that the reference appeared on
> each 'index card') and inserted page breaks between each 'fact'. Then I
> printed them out and cut all the pages in half. It looked lovely, but
> took a lot of time, and I haven't repeated the operation since.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Peter Mayer
>

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Re: Help

Author: Dale Cyphert Posted: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:50:12 -0500

Yes; exactly. The problem is that the OUTLINE keeps changing. Ideas
that seemed connected for one paper morph into another outline. But,
that is fairly easily handled by Word's outline feature.

My bigger problem actually comes when I do try to use the Endnotes notes
section as my "index" card. There is no way that I have ever figured
out to sort my references in a way to pull the ideas out, one by one, or
move them around, in a way that a Word outline can.

On the other hand, I will sometimes remember ideas in the context of a
book or article I've read, or someone will cite an article and I'll want
to be able to review the whole set of "index cards" that I've pulled
from the article. (Even more disturbing, someone will refer to an idea
in an article that I did NOT include as one of my own "index cards", but
I'm sure that's a problem that has been around since the actual "olden
days".)

In any case, I have sometimes gotten totally compulsive and done both:
I take my notes on the article in the Endnotes notes field, noting the
page numbers as I go. THEN, I copy all that text into Word, adding a
citation field at each of the page numbers. Then, I can do both: I can
move the "index cards" around in the outline, or even move or copy them
to another outline if the ideas lead me that way, AND I can still pull
up the reference in endnotes as an Annotated Bib and see all my notes.
I can even do a word-search in endnotes that will pick up references
that included a term that, at the time, didn't seem like a "key" word.

In theory, this should take care of everything, but the reality is that
I don't always take the time to read a reference, take the notes
carefully, and then file the "index cards" in an outline. So maybe this
is all about methods and time management, rather than software! Oh well!

dale

Elizabeth Evans wrote:

> I would also be interested in hearing other answers to this question, as I
> am preparing to enter graduate school and hope to have Endnote on my home
> system for papers. I'm a beginning user at work. I am currently putting
> together a term paper for a microeconomics class: with index cards,
without
> EN. I'm using color-coded index cards (one color for each main topic
> heading) so I can carry my work around with me; if I had a laptop I might
> work on it for the basic research, but I find I need the discipline of
> sitting down in the library with my research materials, instead of at a
> computer where the distractions of the internet are at my fingertips. I
> print out internet documents in the college computer lab to take to the
> library, so I can't keep surfing.
>
> So I've been thinking this question through for myself already.
>
> I would suggest setting up a printed bibliography that shows the Reference
> Manager ID numbers so they can be easily referenced without leaving the
> working document.
>
>
>>- Do you make one citation entry for each fact, even if from the same
>
> source?
>
> If you want to shuffle individual facts around, you need a way to link the
> citations to the facts, which would mean one citation entry per fact in in
a
> way that keeps them linked. Here's an approach I may experiment with
> myself:
>
> 1) putting each fact in a table. 1 column for citation # (I would use
just
> the EN # in curly brackets and turn OFF the
> CiteWhileYouWrite feature). 1 column for a key to the outline heading
> (either a keyword or a heading number). 1 column for the fact or
quotation
> from my reference. Excel or Access could also be used in this way, and
they
> offer the option of setting up a "form" to fill in. Each row is
equivalent
> to an index card--you could have other columns if they are useful.
>
> The facts can be entered into the table randomly, as the researcher
locates
> them, then sorted in by one or more columns.
> Define the first row as a heading so it will appear on each page (select
the
> first row, then choose Table Menu:Table Properties:Row and click the check
> box "Repeat as header row across each page"). Then sort with Table
> Menu:Sort and select the column. You could sort by ID# to review all the
> facts organized by source, and sort by Outline # or keyword to sort by
> topic.
>
> 2) Set up the Word outline in a separate document. Sort the facts by the
> outline heading number, covert the table to text (Table Menu:Convert:Table
> to text). Cut and paste into the outline and edit into final text,
cutting
> and pasting the citations into the corrrect places and deleting the
outline
> numbers.
>
> You also could turn the table into actually index cards: use the table as
a
> data document and use Word's mailmerge feature to print each row as a
> separate card. The same people who make laser printer labels make sheets
of
> perforated index cards that can be printed and then separated. (I think 3
> per sheet).
>
> The problem with such a rigorous approach for me is that my ideas keep
> changing as I work--a draft outline may bear very little resemblance to
the
> final product. That's the beauty of index cards--you can sort them
different
> ways to organize the materials.
>
> If you do work with either Word tables OR outline headings, I would
suggest
> making a one or two page "cheat sheet" on tables, styles and outlines for
> your students, as these are very complex features. And in large
documents,
> outlines can get "broken" so that you have to go into each heading
manually
> to reset the numbering.
>
>
> Another approach entirely: does anyone use the Research Notes field for
> actual note-taking? EN manuals says that Reference Notes, Abstract, and
> Notes will each hold up to 32 K, about 5 pages. You could put notes
directly
> into the actual reference, then set up a custom style (similar to the
> Annotated style supplied by EN) that prints out the reference with the
> notes, then cut and paste into your outline. You could set up the four
> custom fields for note-taking as well, to separate the notes out into
topic
> areas or just indicating the sections of the paper where the notes will be
> used. Using this approach, you would probably want to have up a separate
> library for each paper, and use a main library (if you keep one) for
storing
> just the basic reference data.
>
> Yet another: use the URL or PDF fields to link to documents containing
your
> notes. The PDF field doesn't have to be a PDF file; it will link to most
> file types. Any field will recognize a URL; I believe several other
fields
> will recognize file names, but I can't find the list in my manual or help
> menu right now.
>
> Elizabeth Evans
> Ecological Land Services, Longview WA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "listmaster"
> "mailto:listmaster" Behalf Of Bruce, Stephen LTC.
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:45 AM
> To: Endnote-Interest
> Subject: Help
>
>
> To all,
> Please help: How do you use manage EN to organize citations into a
working
> draft, similar to the old "index card" system where each card represented
> one fact, and then were arranged by headings, arguments, etc.? Frankly,
the
> EN manual is not very helpful in this regard.
> Basically, I am trying to find an easy method to arrange all the facts
under
> headings and sub-headings of a paper outline, and then, at the end turn
them
> into argumentative paragraphs, etc. Sub-questions to this might be:
> - Do you make one citation entry for each fact, even if from the same
> source?
> - How do you use Word headings, sub-headings, in this regard?
> I am the Army Senior Fellow for this year at the George C. Marshall
European
> Center for Security Studies in Garmisch, Germany. I've been asked to
> evaluate EndNote and see how we can teach it to and use it in an
> international faculty setting, to help increase writing productivity. I
am
> dealing with an international faculty that understands "classical"
research:
> the index card system.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> S. Mike Bruce
> Lieutenant Colonel, United States Army
> Army Senior Fellow
> George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies
>
> Tel: (49) (8821) 750-961 DSN: 314-440-2961
> Alternate: -639
> Fax: (49) (8821) 750-688 DSN: 314-440-2688
>
> E-Mail: "stephen.bruce"
> "bruces"
>
>
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RE: Help

Author: Elizabeth Evans Posted: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:52:19 -0700

Yes, I almost suggested Access but hesitated for the following reasons: 1)
Microsoft no longer bundles Access into MS Office, so many users have to
purchase it separately (at least, this was true the last time I looked at
Office); 2) Access has a steep "learning curve", and relatively few people
know how to use it, or how to use it well. 3) The approach I outlined uses
"flat" data tables, not the relational data tables that make Access so
powerful. Word or Excel tables are adequate for this simple data entry
approach.

On the other hand, if you have someone on staff who is an expert in Access,
it would be possible to set up a simple data form, with a query and report
format so that the users don't need to do anything but click an icon to open
the form, enter their data, and click buttons programmed with macros to run
queries and get reports. If you were using Access, and added keywords to
the data, you could probably come up with some creative ways of looking at
the data that goes beyond the flat table approach I suggested.

Elizabeth Evans

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"mailto:listmaster" Behalf Of Gijs Kessler
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:29 PM
To: Endnote-Interest
Subject: Re: Help

I might miss something here, but isn't his what one should use a proper
database application for? FileMakerPro if you are working on a Mac, or
MSAccess if you are working on Windows. Of course you can use Excel as a
database application as well, but it is not so convenient for this purpose.

Gijs Kessler
International Institute of Social History,
Amsterdam

On Oct 27, 2004, at 20:48, Elizabeth Evans wrote:

<snip>
> - Do you make one citation entry for each fact, even if from the
> same
>
> source?
>
> If you want to shuffle individual facts around, you need a way to link the
>
> citations to the facts, which would mean one citation entry per fact in in
> a
> way that keeps them linked. Here's an approach I may experiment with
> myself:
>
> 1) putting each fact in a table. 1 column for citation # (I would use
> just
> the EN # in curly brackets and turn OFF the
> CiteWhileYouWrite feature). 1 column for a key to the outline heading
> (either a keyword or a heading number). 1 column for the fact or
> quotation
> from my reference. Excel or Access could also be used in this way, and
> they
> offer the option of setting up a "form" to fill in. Each row is
> equivalent
> to an index card--you could have other columns if they are useful.
>

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Re: Help: Research Tool

Author: Gijs Kessler Posted: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:02:20 +0400

Nice topic. Because of the specific format of bibliographical database
applications like EndNote and ProCite, I stopped using them for
anything else than bibliography management when I realised that future
accessibility of this electronic card-system is fully dependent on the
continuing development of the applications concerned, because exporting
your data into regular database programmes is beset with problems.
Instead I use an all-purpose database application (for me
FileMakerPro), which allows me to enter all sorts of bits of
information gathered in research in an electronic card-system which is
a) easily searchable in various ways b) easily exportable into another
all-purpose database application in case FileMakerPro is ever going to
be discontinued. By having the database application generate automatic,
unchangeable record-numbers, you can then refer in article, paper and
book outlines to record numbers in your database or even directly
import the bits of information from your database if both your
word-processor and database application are ODBC-compliant, which I
think the most recent versions of FileMaker Pro and MSOffice are, both
on the Macintosh and the Windows platforms. Of course, in addition one
can insert EndNote citations at the appropriate places in the outline.

Gijs Kessler
International Institute of Social History
Amsterdam, The Netherlands

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RE: Help

Author: Michael Power Posted: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:02:52 +1000

Wow, is this starting to turn into a database list?...

Actually, the approach Elizabeth suggested would suit a relational database
quite well:
table: Sources [Author, Year, Record No.]
table: Keywords [Keyword_ID, Keyword]
table: Facts [Fact_ID, Keyword_ID, Record No., (page no.), Fact/comment
text]

It's very straightforward to set a db like Access up to have a single
entry-form (Author, Year, Record No.) with a nested (multiple) entry-forms
for Facts (Fact, Keyword, page no.), and then set up a query to pull, for
example, all the facts related to a particular keyword, or all the facts
related to a particular Source.

On the other hand, there are keyword and comment capabilities in Endnote,
and it might be more straightforward to use these (and En.'s search
functions... which are, admittedly, temperamental) to mine information. As
a some-time DBA, I agree that Elizabeth has a valid point about the
availability and accessibility of Access.

Michael Power

At 08:52 AM 28/10/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Yes, I almost suggested Access but hesitated for the following reasons: 1)
>Microsoft no longer bundles Access into MS Office, so many users have to
>purchase it separately (at least, this was true the last time I looked at
>Office); 2) Access has a steep "learning curve", and relatively few people
>know how to use it, or how to use it well. 3) The approach I outlined uses
>"flat" data tables, not the relational data tables that make Access so
>powerful. Word or Excel tables are adequate for this simple data entry
>approach.
>
>On the other hand, if you have someone on staff who is an expert in Access,
>it would be possible to set up a simple data form, with a query and report
>format so that the users don't need to do anything but click an icon to
open
>the form, enter their data, and click buttons programmed with macros to run
>queries and get reports. If you were using Access, and added keywords to
>the data, you could probably come up with some creative ways of looking at
>the data that goes beyond the flat table approach I suggested.
>
>
>Elizabeth Evans
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "listmaster"
> "mailto:listmaster" Behalf Of Gijs Kessler
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:29 PM
>To: Endnote-Interest
>Subject: Re: Help
>
>
>I might miss something here, but isn't his what one should use a proper
>database application for? FileMakerPro if you are working on a Mac, or
>MSAccess if you are working on Windows. Of course you can use Excel as a
>database application as well, but it is not so convenient for this purpose.
>
>Gijs Kessler
>International Institute of Social History,
>Amsterdam
>
>
>On Oct 27, 2004, at 20:48, Elizabeth Evans wrote:
>
>
><snip>
> > - Do you make one citation entry for each fact, even if from the
> > same
> >
> > source?
> >
> > If you want to shuffle individual facts around, you need a way to link
the
> >
> > citations to the facts, which would mean one citation entry per fact in
in
> > a
> > way that keeps them linked. Here's an approach I may experiment with
> > myself:
> >
> > 1) putting each fact in a table. 1 column for citation # (I would use
> > just
> > the EN # in curly brackets and turn OFF the
> > CiteWhileYouWrite feature). 1 column for a key to the outline heading
> > (either a keyword or a heading number). 1 column for the fact or
> > quotation
> > from my reference. Excel or Access could also be used in this way, and
> > they
> > offer the option of setting up a "form" to fill in. Each row is
> > equivalent
> > to an index card--you could have other columns if they are useful.
> >
>
>
>
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RE: Help: Research Tool

Author: Suzanne Gannon Posted: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:37:34 +0100

You may want to experiment with a freeware program called Literary
Machine. It's a form of graphic organiser built on the principal of
index cards, that can also link with Word. I put in the Endnote
reference as one "box" to which I can then link ideas, notes, etc. Its
own blurb says "The Literary Machine is a dynamic archive and an idea
management tool aimed at creative thinking - built especially with the
writer in mind. It is packed with indexing and display techniques so
general and potent that you will use it as an intelligence center.... LM
offers the best of both worlds, allowing you to use both a networked and
a hierarchical organization scheme for categorizing information. The
core database is the unique and powerful database for idea-generation
and brainstorming that gives The Literary Machine its name. Its
innovative "fuzzy thinking" kernel allows you to work with pure or
hybrid concepts. You may assign any item to a project or topic as well,
arranging these projects or topics in hierarchical (treelike)
structures." You can obtain more information on this from
http://www.sommestad.com/lm.htm

Suzanne Gannon (no affiliation to the company that developed this)

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"mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of Dale Cyphert
Sent: 28 October 2004 01:34
To: Endnote-Interest
Subject: Re: Help: Research Tool

I hope this thread stays around for some discussion. I've been using
Endnotes since my dissertation (3.x, as I recall) and I'm now safely
camping out on 6.1...glad not to have "upgraded".

I have no big problems with formatting bibs and whatnot, since MLA and
APA are as far as my discipline ever goes, but I DO struggle with the
organization of ideas.

My own "fix" has been to create outlines (in Word, using that very
wonderful feature), with citations inserted at every point that would
have been, in the "olden" days, an index card. I can then use the
outline function to "sort" my "cards" within the outline.

This is sort-of-kind-of working for me, but I'd REALLY like to hear what

other people are doing. Citations are easy compared to keeping track of

the ideas!

dale

Peter Mayer wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
>
>>Mike Bruce wrote:
>>Please help: How do you use manage EN to organize citations into a
working
>>draft, similar to the old "index card" system where each card
>>represented one fact, and then were arranged by headings, arguments,
>>etc.? <snip>
>>
> The short answer, I think, is that EndNote really functions as the
> bibliography cards of your classical card system and isn't set up to
> perform the index card side of things.
> I once figured out a 'work around' which might be of interest,
> though. The Abstract field of EndNote will take (from shaky
> recollection) about 32k of notes. I tend to put my notes there and
then
> use the 'search' facility to find the bits I'm looking for. But to
turn
> them into cards, I exported the particular library, selecting all
> entries, and included the abstract in the exported file. I guess I
used
> the Tab style. I then imported the file into MS Word. Once in Word
> things got a bit tedious: I selected and saved each entry as a
separate
> file. I then opened each disaggregated file, cut and pasted the
> bibliographic data into the header (so that the reference appeared on
> each 'index card') and inserted page breaks between each 'fact'. Then
I
> printed them out and cut all the pages in half. It looked lovely, but

> took a lot of time, and I haven't repeated the operation since.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Peter Mayer
>

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RE: Help (with Research Data Management)

Author: Duncan Branley Posted: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:16:49 +0100

(Sorry for coming rather late to this: I've been filtering all my EndNote
email to read later because I've been focusing on a major project for a few
weeks.)

It sounds as though what you need is not a completely open database where
you have a separate record for each 'factoid'. I teach our research
students here to use EndNote to manage and organise the bibliographic side
of things, which it does pretty well in the main.

However, for notes, although you can use the various notes fields in
EndNote, you are limited there in how flexibly you can query your notes.
Better is to use Qualitative Data Analysis (QDA) software (see
<http://caqdas.soc.surrey.ac.uk/index.htm> for information and links to a
range of software manufacturers). With this sort of software you can label
sections of text (including links to multimedia files or sometimes directly
to multimedia files) in whichever and in however many ways are meaningful
to your research questions. This is known in the jargon as 'coding' the
text. It works by highlighting a passage and then applying one or several
labels (or codes) to it - rather like highlighting a (non-library!) book
with coloured markers.

Once you done this with a number of texts then you can query your data for
all passages coded in a certain way - or in combinations of ways. This is
known as "code-and-retrieve". This can help you get just the text you want
on a particular conceptual cluster from a number of documents (in relation
to the original question, research notes, but it could be interview
transcripts, web pages, articles or files of many sorts). You can use it to
build up pictures of differing rhetorical strategies, find absences where
you might expect there to be some data or many other things. It is pretty
flexible in how you use it.

We use one of the leading products here NVivo
<http://www.qsrinternational.com/>, but there are others each with highly
enthusiastic supporters. There are differences, but the core idea is
similar. If you're reviewing your research needs, then you ought to
consider this class of software carefully.

Duncan

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Goldsmiths' College, University of London
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Tel: +44 (0)20 7919 7708 Fax: +44 (0)20 7919 7556
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RE: Help: Research Tool

Author: David T Hughes Posted: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:19:57 -0500

There's a program I've seen cards for occasionally called "Nota Bene" which
claims to be the perfect idea sorting tool etc. I play with this more than
a decade ago and thought it had real potential. Anyone out there use it
alone or in conjunction with EN or similar for managing ideas and writing?

David T. Hughes
"dthughes"

-----Original Message-----
From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster"
On Behalf Of Suzanne Gannon
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:38 AM
To: "endnote-interest"
Subject: RE: Help: Research Tool

You may want to experiment with a freeware program called Literary Machine.
It's a form of graphic organiser built on the principal of index cards, that
can also link with Word. I put in the Endnote reference as one "box" to
which I can then link ideas, notes, etc. Its own blurb says "The Literary
Machine is a dynamic archive and an idea management tool aimed at creative
thinking - built especially with the writer in mind. It is packed with
indexing and display techniques so general and potent that you will use it
as an intelligence center.... LM offers the best of both worlds, allowing
you to use both a networked and a hierarchical organization scheme for
categorizing information. The core database is the unique and powerful
database for idea-generation and brainstorming that gives The Literary
Machine its name. Its innovative "fuzzy thinking" kernel allows you to work
with pure or hybrid concepts. You may assign any item to a project or topic
as well, arranging these projects or topics in hierarchical (treelike)
structures." You can obtain more information on this from
http://www.sommestad.com/lm.htm

Suzanne Gannon (no affiliation to the company that developed this)

-----Original Message-----
From: "listmaster"
"mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of Dale Cyphert
Sent: 28 October 2004 01:34
To: Endnote-Interest
Subject: Re: Help: Research Tool

I hope this thread stays around for some discussion. I've been using
Endnotes since my dissertation (3.x, as I recall) and I'm now safely camping
out on 6.1...glad not to have "upgraded".

I have no big problems with formatting bibs and whatnot, since MLA and APA
are as far as my discipline ever goes, but I DO struggle with the
organization of ideas.

My own "fix" has been to create outlines (in Word, using that very wonderful
feature), with citations inserted at every point that would have been, in
the "olden" days, an index card. I can then use the outline function to
"sort" my "cards" within the outline.

This is sort-of-kind-of working for me, but I'd REALLY like to hear what

other people are doing. Citations are easy compared to keeping track of

the ideas!

dale

Peter Mayer wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
>
>>Mike Bruce wrote:
>>Please help: How do you use manage EN to organize citations into a
working
>>draft, similar to the old "index card" system where each card
>>represented one fact, and then were arranged by headings, arguments,
>>etc.? <snip>
>>
> The short answer, I think, is that EndNote really functions as the
> bibliography cards of your classical card system and isn't set up to
> perform the index card side of things.
> I once figured out a 'work around' which might be of interest,
> though. The Abstract field of EndNote will take (from shaky
> recollection) about 32k of notes. I tend to put my notes there and
then
> use the 'search' facility to find the bits I'm looking for. But to
turn
> them into cards, I exported the particular library, selecting all
> entries, and included the abstract in the exported file. I guess I
used
> the Tab style. I then imported the file into MS Word. Once in Word
> things got a bit tedious: I selected and saved each entry as a
separate
> file. I then opened each disaggregated file, cut and pasted the
> bibliographic data into the header (so that the reference appeared on
> each 'index card') and inserted page breaks between each 'fact'. Then
I
> printed them out and cut all the pages in half. It looked lovely, but

> took a lot of time, and I haven't repeated the operation since.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Peter Mayer
>

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Help

Author: Mary McGrory-Usset Posted: Mon, 5 May 2008 18:50:51 -0400

Is there anyone in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis or St. Pa