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RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #689
Author: Anholm, James    Posted: 12/05/2000 18:06:10 GDT
Ok Peter, I'm not interested in "flaming" you, or anyone else. I've enjoyed your comments about record numbers and other topics. But, there is no need for ISI to add a new command to enable one to "Copy Record Nubers[s] to Field..." etc. I think I understand the difference between new commands and macros-at least on a PC. We don't need a large number of new commmands. What is needed is for ISI to allow simple VisualBasic (or other) macros for the above purpose and many other things people need to do with their database. As I've indicated before in this list (and others have also) repetitive things need to be done to various Fields etc. E.g the Change Text and Change Fields commands in EndNote are rather primitive. (There's no way to automatically remove CR/LF from data in the Keywords field as the data is being imported. I would like to add the date to the Label field when I import a record. And there are a million other things that people may want to do, but don't need a separate command for.) Since many, if not most, people using EN use it with MS Word, it would seem reasonable to allow those so inclined the ability to utilize Visual Basic for Applications, or whatever its now called, to write short scripts/macros to accomplish these kinds of tasks. (Admittedly, I've never used Quickeys as you have suggested. Don't even know if its available for PC's. Maybe it will accomplish everything needed. The needs of those using EN, however, are real, ISI should incorporate the means for solving them.) James Anholm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:41:56 +0200 From: Peter Castine Subject: Re: Record number brouhaha >Further, a macro could be created that would take record numbers and >enter them into another field as a safeguard. Simple for the Endnote >programming people, I would say. If it's a macro, than it's something *you've* done with QuicKeys or the like. I've already pointed out how to do this; presumably our mails crossed. If ISI adds "Copy Record Number[s] to Field..." as a command, than it's a new command; not a macro. Sorry if this sounds like mincing words, and I'm not trying to sound important, or insult anybody, or any of the other accusations that are going back and forth. I'm just trying to reduce general confusion. "Macros" and "new commands" mean different things to software developers. Never mind. Cheers, Peter - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Peter Castine | We look forward to seeing you at this year's | International Computer Music Conference in | Berlin! | More information at <http://www.icmc2000.org/>

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #690: Record Numbers
Author: W F McClure    Posted: 13/05/2000 13:57:49 GDT
This is my last comment on record numbers. I keep a personal file of (xerox copies of) papers, over 4000 in all. I came to EndNote for Buttonfile (it was easy to transfer) and I am "pickled stink" about the move. All I have to do is remember NEVER RECOMPILE THE DATA BASE. For duplicates I just overwrite the duplicate information with the new data and file the paper by record number. However (thanks the William Wong) I always type the record number in the "LABEL" field. The label field is not tampered with like the record number field. So, I hope I'm safe; if something does happen to the record field I can always get it back by looking to the Label field. That's all folks, Mac PS. I have enjoyed everyone's comments. Keep up the good work. ============================================ endnote-interest-digest wrote: > endnote-interest-digest Saturday, May 13 2000 Volume 01 : Number 690 > > In this issue: > > Re: hard return in replace > Re: record number aficionados > Re: Record numbers ... enough, already > French style > Annoying "Scan paper..." behaviour > Re: Add-in/Tools menu: commands missing > Re: size of super/subscript font > re: record number brouhaha > Re: hard return in replace > RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #689 > Printing Lists of References > Nonbreaking hyphen in page range > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:45:16 -0500 > >From: Jolyon Wurr > Subject: Re: hard return in replace > > Key combination for a hard return: Ctrl + Alt + Enter > > //////////>>>:~o|o~:<<<\\\\\\\\\\ > Jolyon Wurr > Research Analyst > Chapin Hall Center for Children > at the > University of Chicago > 1313 E. 60th Street > Chicago, IL 60637 > (773) 256-5201 > (773) 256-5401 FAX > (773) 753-5940 FAX > > \\\\\\\\\\>>>:~o|o~:<<<////////// > > >>> Daniel E Bontempo 5/11/00 2:58:47 PM >>> > > Hi - > > Frequently I want to use the replace feature to add text after the note > field, but I want to start on a new line. I know there must be a key > combination that I can put at the beginning of the replace text to > accomplish this. > > Thanks > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:52:37 +1100 > >From: "Geoff Read" > Subject: Re: record number aficionados > > Greg Hurrell: (and similar theme from David Morgan) > > For those of us who actually use EndNote to write papers the record number > > serves the essential purpose of uniquely identifying the references in a > > temporary citation. If that wasn't the case then of course the numbering > > could be made "internal" and hence invisible to users. > > For what it's worth it's not essential that the user see the real >number and it > could be hidden. But it would require a more complicated method of putting > the temporary citations in place that probably isn't worth the trouble. > > > The numbers are > > fragile, but we all use them. It's just the people who tell the > > record-number filers that they are wrong don't realise they're just as > > dependent on those numbers themselves. > > Facts are true or false, right or wrong. Right or wrong people is not that > simple and not my business to say. > > My dependency is minor. I only need a few of the 28,000 numbers in my > database to stay constant for a few months. If they don't, no real worries. > But in practice the only problems I expect to experience will be as the > result of some intention act on my part, not a computing disaster. > > Thanks for the discussion. Anything new I'd love to hear it, but >that's my lot. > > - -- > Geoff Read > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 06:50:12 -0400 > >From: RM Baldwin > Subject: Re: Record numbers ... enough, already > > At 02:00 am 5/12/00 Friday -0700, Greg Hurrell wrote: > >For those of us who actually use EndNote to write papers the record number > >serves the essential purpose of uniquely identifying the references in a > >temporary citation. If that wasn't the case then of course the numbering > >could be made "internal" and hence invisible to users. > > That should be the definitive conclusion to this tedious debate. > Can we move on? > > :) > > - -Ron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:50:09 +0100 > >From: "Francisco Vaz da Silva" > Subject: French style > > Hi, > Has anyone out there produced an author-date style adapted for French? > Merci d'avance, > > Francisco Vaz da Silva > Dept. de Antropologia -- ISCTE > Av. das For¡as Armadas > 1649-026 Lisboa -- PORTUGAL > Fax: (+351) 21 790 3012 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:47:01 +0930 > >From: Greg Hurrell > Subject: Annoying "Scan paper..." behaviour > > > Sender: > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: > > I have lately been frustrated by an annoying behaviour associated with the > "Scan paper..." command in EndNote 4 for Mac. I am one of those rebels who > has hates Word and refuses to use it, so I have no choice but to use this > command. > > Every time you select this command it takes you to your EndNote application > folder and you have to navigate your way through the file hierarchy to where > your document file exists. This can be very inconvenient if your document > folder and EndNote application folder are not close by. > > Other applications seem able to "remember" the folder you were in the last > time you ran a command, and use that folder as your starting point next > time. EndNote does this (ironically) when it lets you choose where to save > your formatted paper, but not when you want to choose the paper to format. > > Is there any way to fix this? > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:30:17 +0200 > >From: Ingvar Ericson > Subject: Re: Add-in/Tools menu: commands missing > > >Since my question seems to have got lost somehow, I am just > >posting it once more: > > > >Unfortunately, the "Unformat Citation(s)" command does not > >appear in my Word's Tools menu -- but all the others ("Go To > >EndNote," "Insert Citations" etc.) do. A Customs re-installation as > >suggested in the 4.0 manual (p. 404) did not help. Any ideas? > > > >Thanks so much in advance, > > Alexander! > > I suggest you contact tech support at ISI ResearchSoft about this > problem. I have checked all our machines and not been able to > recreate the problem on any of them nor have any of our customers > resported this kind of problem which really sounds weird. Definitely > a case for the developer in my opinion. > > rgds > > Ingvar Ericson > > **************************** > Box: 152 > 382 22 Nybro > Tel. 0481-511 23 > Fax. 0481-511 21 > > > http://www.programpaketet.se > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:23:50 +0200 > >From: Ingvar Ericson > Subject: Re: size of super/subscript font > > >I am using Endnote 4.0 Mac, and just noticed that, if I apply super > >or subscript style to a letter or group of letters, the result is far > >too small to be seen in the screen. I am increasing the size of the > >result to 18 pts for visibility with normal 12 pts fonts. Does anyone > >know of a way to control this odd behaviour? > > Hello Manuel! > > I think you may have hit an irregularity in EndNote 4. The > super/subscript is definitely too small and it is also different from > what you get in EndNote 3. So, I have taken the liberty of sending a > report to the Mac-guys at ISI ResearchSoft to have them look into it. > If I'm wrong in my suspicions I'll let you know. > > Regards, > > Ingvar Ericson > > **************************** > Box: 152 > 382 22 Nybro > Tel. 0481-511 23 > Fax. 0481-511 21 > > > http://www.programpaketet.se > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:51:49 -0400 (EDT) > >From: "E. Lenart" > Subject: re: record number brouhaha > > Regarding the record number/not by record number debacle: > > Back to you, Peter > > I said - > > >Rather than get into a discussion of which method is best, how about this? > >Endnote could provide an optional locking feature of some sort that would > >allow references to be added, but not deleted (we have some duplicates in > >our 7,000 reference library. It is not an issue at all). > > You responded - > > Fine. Except sooner or later there will be a need to unlock the library > and delete a record after all. And sooner or later a record will be > deleted that hadn't ought to have been. And then the record number is > gone. > > And I now say - > > Why do I need to delete a reference? If it is a duplicate - our librarian > puts "duplicate - use 5734" in the title field. Let Endnote expand the > ultimate capacity of the library. > > I suggested - > > >Similarly, there could be an option that allows libraries to be merged > only in one > >direction. The record numbers from the "sacred" library could not be > >mistakenly changed when a library with 37 new references is merged in > >mistakenly changed when a library with 37 new references is merged in > >because you would be prohibited from merging in the wrong direction. > > You replied - > > But EndNote already does this. > > When you import into an existing library, the record numbers of the > existing records are not modified. It's the 37 new records that get new > rec.#s. > > And to this I now answer - Yes I know this. We merge libraries all the > time. This would protect someone from merging the "wrong way" by mistake. > An extra layer of safety, so to speak. > > You added - > > The real problem breaks out when the President of Harvard decides to > implement cost-cutting measures that mandate merging the School of Public > Health with the School of Private Sickness (or whatever--cost-cutting > measures always result in merging incompatible institutes) and you need > to merge your 7,000 record library with their 9,000 record library (the > cost-cutting also inclused spending $10,000,000 to tear down your > building... cost-cutting measures are like that). Oh, and you want to > toss out duplicate articles while you're at it. > > You're gonna tell me this will never happen. Well, for the sake of your > sanity, I hope so.-) > > I now respond - > > You know how the University can work. Have you been employed here? > Yes, this could happen, but since one can format with multiple libraries > open, I think it unlikely. The tearing down of the building, now that > could happen. But we can use our computers in a tent. I have mittens when > it gets cold. > > I suggested - > > >Further, a macro could be created that would take record numbers and > >enter them into another field as a safeguard. Simple for the Endnote > >programming people, I would say. > > You responded - > > If it's a macro, than it's something *you've* done with QuicKeys or the > like. I've already pointed out how to do this; presumably our mails > crossed. > > If ISI adds "Copy Record Number[s] to Field..." as a command, than it's a > new command; not a macro. > > Sorry if this sounds like mincing words, and I'm not trying to sound > important, or insult anybody, or any of the other accusations that are > going back and forth. I'm just trying to reduce general confusion. > "Macros" and "new commands" mean different things to software developers. > Never mind. > > Now I would like to add - > > Sorry to have gotten the lingo wrong. I am not a programming person, but > do think the meaning of the suggestion was clear to most who read it. > Further, the addition of "never mind" only negates what you say in the > first part of your mincing words paragraph. How can you say that you > aren't trying to insult people? > > I wrote - > > >Finally, I sit with 12 feet of wall space behind me taken up by hard > >copies of all our references. Constantly shifting them around would be > >burdensome. Far easier to pop them in at the end. > > You responded - > > Again, I have a feeling messages crossed. There are really are efficient > ways of managing alphabetically sorted papers. I have over 4 meters of > wall space with references. Do you think I spend hours of my time > shifting papers around every time I insert a new reference? > > I would like to add - > > The key here may be "I insert a new reference". The users of this library > include all sorts of people from high school students "pulling" > references for investigators to the investigators themselves in a frazzle > when a grant is due. If you take # 4398 out of the folder, you know > where to put it when you bring it back. Simple. Generally works quite > well for us. > > You end with - > > Out of curiosity: does the Harvard main library store materials > (journals, books, videos, scores, maps, CDS, CD-ROMs, parchment) by order > of acquisition? > > I say - No they don't (at least in the medical area library) and perhaps > I would not have started a library using only record numbers, had it been > my choice to decide. But here we are. And unless you wish to take a > sabbatical, come over and redo the library for us, here we stay. It > seems to me that it is not a huge task for ISI to implement some simple > safeguards to assist those with libraries categorized by record number. > > I imagine that you won't agree here Peter, so perhaps the best we can do > is move on to new topics. What do you say? How about a truce with the > categorize by record number people? > > Bye bye, > > E. B. Lenart > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:39:33 +0200 > >From: Ingvar Ericson > Subject: Re: hard return in replace > > >Hi - > > > > Frequently I want to use the replace feature to add text >after the note > >field, but I want to start on a new line. I know there must be a key > >combination that I can put at the beginning of the replace text to > >accomplish this. > > Hi Daniel! > > I don't think there is a way by which you can "type" a "CR LF" > character into the Change Field” dialog. Howvere here's a > workaround.Type a "CR LF" character in your word processor or the> full text that you want to insert starting with a "CR LF" character > and copy it to the clipboard. Then open the Change Field” dialog and > paste it in. Voil… - your added text starts on a new line. > > Regards, > > Ingvar Ericson > > **************************** > Box: 152 > 382 22 Nybro > Tel. 0481-511 23 > Fax. 0481-511 21 > > > http://www.programpaketet.se > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:06:10 -0500 > >From: "Anholm, James" > Subject: RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #689 > > Ok Peter, I'm not interested in "flaming" you, or anyone else. I've enjoyed > your comments about record numbers and other topics. But, there is no need > for ISI to add a new command to enable one to "Copy Record Nubers[s] to > Field..." etc. > I think I understand the difference between new commands and macros-at least > on a PC. We don't need a large number of new commmands. What is needed is > for ISI to allow simple VisualBasic (or other) macros for the above purpose > and many other things people need to do with their database. > > As I've indicated before in this list (and others have also) repetitive > things need to be done to various Fields etc. E.g the Change Text and > Change Fields commands in EndNote are rather primitive. (There's no way to > automatically remove CR/LF from data in the Keywords field as the data is > being imported. I would like to add the date to the Label field when I > import a record. And there are a million other things that people may want > to do, but don't need a separate command for.) > > Since many, if not most, people using EN use it with MS Word, it would seem > reasonable to allow those so inclined the ability to utilize Visual Basic > for Applications, or whatever its now called, to write short scripts/macros > to accomplish these kinds of tasks. (Admittedly, I've never used Quickeys > as you have suggested. Don't even know if its available for PC's. Maybe > it will accomplish everything needed. The needs of those using EN, however, > are real, ISI should incorporate the means for solving them.) > James Anholm > > > - ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:41:56 +0200 > >From: Peter Castine > Subject: Re: Record number brouhaha > > >Further, a macro could be created that would take record numbers and > >enter them into another field as a safeguard. Simple for the Endnote > >programming people, I would say. > > If it's a macro, than it's something *you've* done with QuicKeys or the > like. I've already pointed out how to do this; presumably our mails > crossed. > > If ISI adds "Copy Record Number[s] to Field..." as a command, than it's a > new command; not a macro. > > Sorry if this sounds like mincing words, and I'm not trying to sound > important, or insult anybody, or any of the other accusations that are > going back and forth. I'm just trying to reduce general confusion. > "Macros" and "new commands" mean different things to software developers. > Never mind. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Peter Castine | We look forward to seeing you at this year's > | International Computer Music Conference in > | Berlin! > | More information at <http://www.icmc2000.org/> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:03:13 EDT > >From: > Subject: Printing Lists of References > > Hi - > > I use End Note 3.1.3 on a Mac G3 laptop. I print the Author-Date report to > create a pull-list to take to the library ... nearly daily. Is there any > way to get this report to print with a space between references? > > Thanks for your time. > > Judith Black > Division of Reasearch > Kaiser Permanente > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:42:09 -0500 > >From: "Peter Underwood" > Subject: Nonbreaking hyphen in page range > > Does anyone know of a way to make the hyphen in the page range of a > reference in a bibliography format as an nonbreaking hyphen? I would prefer > that the page ranges don't wrap to the next line at the end of a reference. > > As a related question I was wondering if it is possible to put a nonbreaking > space in the reference listings of a numbered in-text citation so that a > superscripted numbered list does not wrap to the next line. (I realize that > getting rid of the spaces altogether between reference numbers might solve > this problem but small in-text citations don't always look good when jammed > together like this. [example of problem: This is a sample sentence.(1, 2, > 4) Followed by another sentence] > > As another, but possibly more difficult, non-breaking space issue - I am > also looking to find a way to have journal abbreviations use a non-breaking > space between abbreviated words so that the abbreviated journal name does > not split up across lines upon word wrap. (such as N Engl > J Med). > > I usually just do this manually after formatting the bibliography but would > like to automate the process. I imagine that I would have to create a term > list for all journal abbreviations with an nonbreaking space between words > (ugh!). > > Thanks for any input. > > Peter > > ***** > > Peter Underwood, Pharm.D. > Clinical Pharmacist & Lead Medical Writer > Jarosz Regulatory Services, Inc. > > ------------------------------ > > End of endnote-interest-digest V1 #690 > ************************************** -- W. 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Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #694
Author: Troy Sagrillo    Posted: 19/05/2000 01:20:16 GDT
on 18.05.2000 3.00 AM, David L Morgan wrote: > The pages field is designed to hold a range. Date is intended for a single > year, and is probably being used for sorting. How can a reference have > been published in a range of years? when it is a series of fascicles, when it is a journal that covers more than one year, when it is a book that was released in sections, when it is a multi-volume work, and many other reasons > Certainly sorting by year when references have non-numeric characters in the > year field is bound to cause problems. nevertheless I can currently use a hyphen or a / just fine. Endnote sorts on the 1st year entered. There is no reason it can't do the same for an en-dash. Best wishes, Troy -- Troy Sagrillo Department of Near & Middle Eastern Civilizations University of Toronto Canada

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #696
Author: David Watkins    Posted: 22/05/2000 09:53:07 GDT
Respnse to: Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 20:58:02 -0700 From: Gordon Roe Subject: help- repetitive citations I'd like an easier way to do repetitive citations, such as selections from an edited volume or the same journal issue. In EN3, I clipped the entries which were unchanged between citations (editor, title, city, etc, or journal, volume, issue) into a clipboard extender (ClipMate) and just pasted them in sequence. Unfortunately, EN4 interferes with ClipMate and I can no longer do this. Neither company can explain this, although I'm sure programmers in both are working day and night to fix it. In the meantime, is there a way to open up a citation as a copy, replace the data in some fields with new entries and save it under a new reference number? Any other work around to suggest to me? There is a quicker way anyway than copying each field separately by using Clipmate. Just highlight the reference to be copied in the library view, press copy and then immediately, paste back to the library. The duplicate will appear under the original if you are in the usual 'sort by author' mode, so is a cinch to find. You can modify the one or two fields concerned immediately (best) - or at your leisure later if your creative writing is on a roll..... Incidentally, if entering the whole of a journal volume, or edited book by chapter, it's usually best to first enter a skeleton 'template' of the common fields and copy the required number of references immediately as above. Usually these will have a blank author field, so will appear at the start of the library - again very easy to find. ************************************************ Professor David Watkins Business Development Research Centre Southampton Business School East Park Terrace Southampton SO14 0YN Telephone number from overseas: +44 2380 319610 >From UK: 023 80 319610 (Tel) Fax number fom overseas: +44 2380 332627 >From UK: 023 80 332627 (Fax)

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698
Author: Tom Mead    Posted: 24/05/2000 13:36:33 GDT
= = = = = = Is there a standard list of journal name abbreviations. I am unable to find one on the web and my library doesn't have such a thing. = = = = = = = = = = = = = When I go to lunch later today, I'll try to imagine what kind of library it is that doesn't have information, lists, databases, text-files, web-pages, referrals, good-ideas, or SOMETHING useful about journal-name abbreviations. Did you ask the reference librarian? (Sorry about that early morning rant: an awful meeting is coming up this morning and I'm not quite ready for it, so here I am venting...) ANYWAY! Go here! http://www.public.iastate.edu/~CYBERSTACKS/JAS.htm (The "JAS" in the URL stands for: "Journal Abbreviation Sources") Rainy here in New Hampshire today.... -- Tom Mead

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698
Author: Nicholsb    Posted: 24/05/2000 14:10:32 GDT
Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698 To: Craig Barton Re: Journal Abbreviations I hope this will be of some assistance to you, although you did not identify the subject area in which you are interested. The U.S. National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health, publishes an annual List of Serials Indexed for Online Users (ISSN: 0736-7139) via the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services/Public Health Service/National Institutes of Health. Also, the NLM/NIH also publishes the List of Journal Indexed in Index Medicus that provides abbreviations of medical/scientific journals. Brenna Nichols Medical Editor ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698 Author: listmaster at Internet-SHAR Date: 05/24/2000 5:00 AM endnote-interest-digest Wednesday, May 24 2000 Volume 01 : Number 698 In this issue: Indexing (OT) Re: Problem with Text in an EndNote Style Bibliography Template Search for "Secondary Title" Re: Linking Journal Abbreviations. Is there a list available? CD database Re: Indexing (OT) Re: Indexing (OT) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 04:04:39 +0200 From: "Rene Andersson" Subject: Indexing (OT) Sorry if this issomewhat off-topic, but I figured thatEndNote users are the most likely source for information on indexing software. I am trying to locate software that will generate an "index draft" by scanning through a document and findingnon-regular or uncommon words that are likely candidates for a concordance list on which it would be possible tobuild the framework of an index. Has anyone heard of or used such a piece of software? Rene Andersson Dept. of East Asian Languages (Japanese) Lund University SWEDEN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:52:45 +0200 From: Laurence Raphael Subject: Re: Problem with Text in an EndNote Style Bibliography Template To force EndNote to identifie text that is also a field name, you must use the back apostrophes. `Report Number`: <tab> Report Number <return> `Author(s)`: <tab> Author <return> `Title`: <tab> Title <return> At 09:57 19/05/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >I am trying to define a new style to catalog our department's technical >reports and am having some difficulty. > >I want the report to look like the following: > >Report Number: 98555 >Author(s): Smith, Jane >Title: DEA is Great > >----- >To do this, I created the following Bibliography Template. > >Report Number: <tab> Report Number <return> >Author(s): <tab> Author <return> >Title: <tab> Title <return> > >----- >Everthing works fine (tab & return) except that EndNote is parsing Report >Number in the label to the left as the field so I get the following: > >98555: 98555 >Smith, Jane(s): Smith, Jane >DEA is Great: DEA is Great > >How do I tell EndNote that the first "Report Number" is text and the second >one is the field to be subustituted into? (Same goes for Author and Title >of course.) > >Thanks, >Tim >-------- >Dr. Timothy R. Anderson, >Asst. Professor, Engineering & Technology Management Dept. >Portland State University, Portland, OR 97007 www.emp.pdx.edu > > - -------------------------------------------------- Laurence RAPHAEL Bibliothecaire Documentaliste CNRS, Equipe CCO MSH-Alpes Universite P. Mendes France BP 47 38040 Grenoble Cedex 9 Tel 04-76-82-73-18 Fax 04-76-82-73-28 Serveur Web des biblioth+ques SHS : http://dodge.upmf-grenoble.fr:8001/ - --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:04:17 -0400 From: Wood Subject: Search for "Secondary Title" Hello Ingvar, It must be me. When I try to do a search from the "Search" drop down menu, and try to locate the option "Secondary Title" (which I assume would follow "Secondary Author" - which is in the list), there is no "Secondary Title" The list goes from "Secondary Author" to "Place Published." Nor does "Secondary Title" appear anywhere else in the list. However "Tertiary Title" does follow "Tertiary Author" in the list as would be expected. Once again, as in my last note to you regarding my Version 4 not maintaining linkage between field and term list, could the above have anything to do with my PC platform being Second Edition of Windows 98? Gordon Wood

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698 - Standard Journal Abbreviations
Author: Anholm, James    Posted: 24/05/2000 22:19:59 GDT
Craig, Depends on what field you are working in. In the medical field, PubMed (i.e. Medline) has a list of all the journals they index available for download (or thru FTP), but of course there are hundreds or thousands of medical journals that are not indexed by PubMed. Even so, this should be a good start. Since nearly all journals get an ISSN number, it is likely that they keep a list of abbreviations, but I don't know whether it is available to the public without rather steep fees. You might check out their web site though. James Anholm Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:17:01 +0100 From: "Craig V M Barton" Subject: Journal Abbreviations. Is there a list available? Is there a standard list of journal name abbreviations. I am unable to find one on the web and my library doesn't have such a thing. Yours hopefully Craig Barton

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #699
Author: Listmaster    Posted: 25/05/2000 19:53:40 GDT
Subject: RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #699 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:14:47 -0400 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: In response to Mr. Barton: The US Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, National Institutes of Health and National Library of Medicine publish the "List of Serials Indexed for Online Users". You can order one from Library Operations, 8600 Rockville Pike, Bethesda, MD 20894, or order ISSN 0736-7139. Darlene Gunsolus Desktop Publishing Tue, 23 May 2000 12:17:01 +0100 From: "Craig V M Barton" > Subject: Journal Abbreviations. Is there a list available? Is there a standard list of journal name abbreviations. I am unable to find one on the web and my library doesn't have such a thing. Yours hopefully Craig Barton -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 5:00 AM To: Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #699 endnote-interest-digest Thursday, May 25 2000 Volume 01 : Number 699 In this issue: Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698 [none] Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698 Copying field content globally to new field Re: Slavic characters in 3.1 Re: journal abbreviations Endnote mac eats my language in Word 98 Mac specific problems? RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698 - Standard Journal Abbreviations ProQuest and Academic Index import filters available? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:10:32 -0400 From: Subject: Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698 Item Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698 To: Craig Barton Re: Journal Abbreviations I hope this will be of some assistance to you, although you did not identify the subject area in which you are interested. The U.S. National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health, publishes an annual List of Serials Indexed for Online Users (ISSN: 0736-7139) via the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services/Public Health Service/National Institutes of Health. Also, the NLM/NIH also publishes the List of Journal Indexed in Index Medicus that provides abbreviations of medical/scientific journals. Brenna Nichols Medical Editor ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #698 Author: listmaster at Internet-SHAR Date: 05/24/2000 5:00 AM endnote-interest-digest Wednesday, May 24 2000 Volume 01 : Number 698 In this issue: Indexing (OT) Re: Problem with Text in an EndNote Style Bibliography Template Search for "Secondary Title" Re: Linking Journal Abbreviations. Is there a list available? CD database Re: Indexing (OT) Re: Indexing (OT) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 04:04:39 +0200 From: "Rene Andersson" Subject: Indexing (OT) Sorry if this issomewhat off-topic, but I figured thatEndNote users are the most likely source for information on indexing software. I am trying to locate software that will generate an "index draft" by scanning through a document and findingnon-regular or uncommon words that are likely candidates for a concordance list on which it would be possible tobuild the framework of an index. Has anyone heard of or used such a piece of software? Rene Andersson Dept. of East Asian Languages (Japanese) Lund University SWEDEN - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:52:45 +0200 From: Laurence Raphael Subject: Re: Problem with Text in an EndNote Style Bibliography Template To force EndNote to identifie text that is also a field name, you must use the back apostrophes. `Report Number`: <tab> Report Number <return> `Author(s)`: <tab> Author <return> `Title`: <tab> Title <return> At 09:57 19/05/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >I am trying to define a new style to catalog our department's technical >reports and am having some difficulty. > >I want the report to look like the following: > >Report Number: 98555 >Author(s): Smith, Jane >Title: DEA is Great > >----- >To do this, I created the following Bibliography Template. > >Report Number: <tab> Report Number <return> >Author(s): <tab> Author <return> >Title: <tab> Title <return> > >----- >Everthing works fine (tab & return) except that EndNote is parsing Report >Number in the label to the left as the field so I get the following: > >98555: 98555 >Smith, Jane(s): Smith, Jane >DEA is Great: DEA is Great > >How do I tell EndNote that the first "Report Number" is text and the second >one is the field to be subustituted into? (Same goes for Author and Title >of course.) > >Thanks, >Tim >-------- >Dr. Timothy R. Anderson, >Asst. Professor, Engineering & Technology Management Dept. >Portland State University, Portland, OR 97007 www.emp.pdx.edu > > - - -------------------------------------------------- Laurence RAPHAEL Bibliothecaire Documentaliste CNRS, Equipe CCO MSH-Alpes Universite P. Mendes France BP 47 38040 Grenoble Cedex 9 Tel 04-76-82-73-18 Fax 04-76-82-73-28 Serveur Web des biblioth+ques SHS : http://dodge.upmf-grenoble.fr:8001/ - - --------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:04:17 -0400 From: Wood Subject: Search for "Secondary Title" Hello Ingvar, It must be me. When I try to do a search from the "Search" drop down menu, and try to locate the option "Secondary Title" (which I assume would follow "Secondary Author" - which is in the list), there is no "Secondary Title" The list goes from "Secondary Author" to "Place Published." Nor does "Secondary Title" appear anywhere else in the list. However "Tertiary Title" does follow "Tertiary Author" in the list as would be expected. Once again, as in my last note to you regarding my Version 4 not maintaining linkage between field and term list, could the above have anything to do with my PC platform being Second Edition of Windows 98? Gordon Wood

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #701
Author: David Gardner    Posted: 27/05/2000 02:35:18 GDT
Ian Evans wrote: >one thing that >annoys me is when people reply to the list and include the whole of the >digest. >Thanks for letting me rant off topic Ian, I don't think you are off topic. What you are suggesting would make the digest more readable and, therefore, more useful. I agree with you. As a new user I want to read the digests to get the benefit of listening to experienced users, however, I feel I am wasting a lot of time wading through large chunks of repeated text. I assumed it was either due to ignorance or technical problems but it would be nice if it stopped. Regards David ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Gardner English Centre, Tel: (852) 28592028 The University of Hong Kong, Fax: (852) 25473409 Pokfulam Road, Hong Kong. Email: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #702
Author: Paul R Chamberlin    Posted: 28/05/2000 18:18:20 GDT
Could anyone please tell me how to obtain Hebrew and Arabic Language Kits for Endnote entries. Paul Chamberlin Hebrew University (M.A. Student)

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #702
Author: Leo Bores    Posted: 31/05/2000 05:01:08 GDT
I've run across a serious problem with EN 4 and wonder if any of you have encountered it. I run Office2k and frequently use Equation Editor 3.0 built in to Word. When I format EN citations in a document containing mathematical equations, very often the equations are replaced by a empty square. In other words - the equations are gone and in any view. Leo D. Bores, M.D. Medical Research Director Ophthalmic International, Inc. voice: 480-837-6810 FAX: 480-837-6870

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #701
Author: Jones, David G    Posted: 05/06/2000 10:45:06 GDT
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:08:14 +0100 On 26 May, Ian Evans said: I'm not sure how other listmembers feel about this, but one thing that annoys me is when people reply to the list and include the whole of the digest. This makes a thread hrder to follow, and increases bandwidth - not very nice if you have to pay for the phone time required to download the message. It is very simple to cut and paste the relevant passage and it is lazy and rude not to. Thanks for letting me rant off topic I would like to agree with the general point he made. Endnote-interest digests 700 and 701 are cases in point - there is an awful lot of extraneous stuff to scroll through from which it is hard to extract the pertinent information. It would be really nice if people would just cut and paste the relevant text and then reply to that. Some list members are very good at doing it, others just seem to take the lazy approach and presumably send a reply that incorporates the whole previous digest. Dave Jones Dr David G Jones British Geological Survey Keyworth Nottingham NG12 5GG E-mail

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #706
Author: Listmaster    Posted: 08/06/2000 17:45:29 GDT
Subject: RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #706 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:03:38 -0400 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: RE: Like Michael E Smith I also have not been able to connect to the LC. this has been for several days. An error message in EndNote contains the message: "The Host refused the connection." Our Tech Team had to change the address of OUR server to establish the connection. This should be done after ensuring you have the most current connection file downloaded. Darlene Gunsolus Desktop Publishing Davis - 1A Phone (904) 953-7050; Fax (904) 953-0304

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #707
Author: JOHANNES RIIS    Posted: 09/06/2000 13:25:14 GDT
Connections and hardware I have had problems using any of my Endnote connections since updating to EN 4.0 (getting a TCP/IP error message every time I try to connect). The computer expert in our department tells me that he is certain that the problem is one of hardware-software compatibility. Has anyone with success used Endnote 4.0 on a Macintosh Performa 5400 (PowerPC) with System 7.5.5? Has anyone had similar problems and overcome them, using this platform? The platform, I should add, worked fine with Endnote 3.x versions. Johannes Riis Dept. of Film and Media Studies University of Copenhagen e-mail

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #709
Author: Merry O'Brien    Posted: 13/06/2000 16:42:53 GDT
Reply regarding pdf files: Hey! I learned something from your ingenious method and plan to use it. Thank you! Now for the answer to your question. When you've opened the pdf file in Acrobat Reader, select the text icon "T". By doing so, you can now use your cursor to select and copy the text you wish to paste. One note, though: selection is limited to one page at a time. If the text you want to copy continues onto another page, then after copying and pasting the first page, move to the second page and repeat the copy/paste steps. Enjoy! >endnote-interest-digest Tuesday, June 13 2000 Volume 01 : Number 709 > > > >In this issue: > > pdf files > EnNote and handheld devices > Re: INNOPAC Item Location - Possible via a z39.50 Connect File? > RE:endnote-interest-digest V1 #708 > Connect through a proxy > Re: pdf files > Re: pdf files > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:42:49 -0500 >From: "Thomas D. Sigerstad" >Subject: pdf files > >I often retrieve electronic files of entire >articles and am able to conveniently cut and paste >titles, authors, abstracts, and other citation >information from the electronic article to my >endnotes library. I find it convenient to >sometimes copy entire reference lists into the >notes section or one of the custom spots which >makes that reference list searchable without >having to enter each reference individually until >I may need it for citation at which time I can >enter it as its own citation in endnotes... >but here is my problem thwarting this >convenience... >I am receiving more pdf files of articles which I >can not cut and paste from to easily enter needed >information into endnotes. Does anyone have any >ideas of how to go about this or know of some >software available that will "scan" a pdf file to >a word processing file without the step of >printing the pdf and rescanning in a scanner? > >Thanks >Tom Sigerstad > >------------------------------ >

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #709
Author: Jiao, Yan    Posted: 15/06/2000 13:40:13 GDT
Hello, could anyone tell me how to make reference of informtion from WWW. and how to use it in endnote. thank you.

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #714
Author: Jim Mansell    Posted: 20/06/2000 11:54:06 GDT
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:30:47 +1000 > From: Graham Dawson > Subject: EndNote is too new for this Add-in: EndNote 4 <-> > MS-Word 97 > > incompatibility problem? > To: > Sender: > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: > > > Has someone got the cure for this problem? > > Just installed EndNote 4. > > When trying to interface with Word we get: > "EndNote is too new for this Add-in:" > > Thanks, Graham > I had this after installing the trial version over Endnote 3, reverting to Endnote 3 and then installing Endnote 4. The Word add-in is the Endnote 3 version. Quit Word and Endnote. Use Find Files to locate the copies of ENWORD32.WLL on your disk and compare them. Make sure the later copy, in the Endnote 4 directory, is copied to the Office startup directory.

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #716
Author: Dave Rushton    Posted: 22/06/2000 16:08:28 GDT
Regarding John Williams note, I share your interest in Ebscohost. I was disappointed to find EndNote 3 wasn't compatible. I know EndNote 3 and I suspect EndNote 4 allow for customizing the linkages so you can download from databases not already included, but as a user with limited tech savvy, I found it rather complicated to follow the User manual on this process and gave up part way through. If anyone has some user-friendlier instructions for this customization I would certainly appreciate it, and maybe others too. My apologies if this has been addressed before and I missed it. Dave Rushton ________________________ At 02:00 2000-06-22 -0700, you wrote: > >endnote-interest-digest Thursday, June 22 2000 Volume 01 : Number 716 > > > >In this issue: > > Ebsco > Re: "update" version of Endnote 4 > Capitalisation of acronyms in title fields of citations > Re: transfer of old licence > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:23:12 -0500 >From: "John Eustis Williams" >Subject: Ebsco > >How come there are not any filters or connection files for EbscoHOST? They >offer just about every major database online today, including PsycINFO and >about every one that OCLC or OVID does. They do have a Z39.50 compliant >server. Has any one succeeded in connecting to their databases? > >John Williams > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:03:01 +0200 >From: Peter Castine >Subject: Re: "update" version of Endnote 4 > >On around Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:09:02 -0500, Steve Osborne said something like: > >>I disagree that you can't give away or sell your copy of a program. The only >>requirement is that you give or sell the original work (manuals & >>disks) and not >>retain a copy on your machine. > >I would suggest reading the license ISI includes with your copy of >EndNote. Taking five minutes to do so would obviate a flood of "I >think..." mails on the list. > >One basic principle is common to all commercial mass-market personal >computer software: you do NOT own the software. What you purchase is a >(non-exclusive) license to use the software. You generally own the media >the software is delivered on (nowadays typically a CD worth about, oh, >$1.75), but the rest of the price you paid is for a license to use. > >The reduced license fees for software updates generally reflect a >"no-can-sell-old-version" attitude on the part of the manufacturer. But, >read the license if you want to know the inside dope. > >Also, I have found some manufacturers are prepared to acknowledge a >transfer-of-license arrangement for older versions. But the only way to >find out if ISI is one of these is to ask. Do not assume they will say >yes. > >The main point to come to terms with is that you do n-o-t own the >software. > >What you have is a license. You have marginally more right to sell >(transfer) that license to someone else than you would to sell your >driver's license. > >Dave Braze added: >>about the legitimacy of giving away an old copy of Endnote, I'll quote >>from the >>Endnote License Agreement on page iii of my own Endnote 3 manual. >> >>"Licensor grants Customer and Customer accepts from Licensor, a perpetual, >>non-exclusive, and non-transferable license ... " >> >>I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not exactly sure what is meant by >>'non-exclusive' > >'Non-exclusive' means that you are not the only person in the world >allowed to use the software. Custom software is often written under >exclusive license (someone hires me to write a custom program for several >thousands of euros, she doesn't want me turning around and selling the >same program to her competitor for half price). Mass-market software is >always licensed non-exclusively (otherwise it wouldn't be mass-market). >Lawyers include the non-exclusive qualifier to avoid ambiguity. > >> but I >>think the intention behind the phrase 'non-transferable' is fairly clear. > >Agreed.-) > > >David Morgan argued: >>It seems to me that the legality goes like this. If you purchased a new >>version 4 license, then you have 2 licenses, and could sell or give away >>your version 3 license. > >If you're going to give advice like this, I would suggest that you >explicitly state that you are not a lawyer and what you're writing does >not constitute legal advice. In the USA I could probably follow your >argument, let ISI sue the pants off me, and then collect damages from you >for having advised me, making a nice little profit in the bargain. > >Again: *read* the license. If your EndNote 4.0 license is an upgrade to >your EndNote 3.0 license, then you do ***NOT*** have two licenses. You >have 1 (in words: one) license: a license that originally allowed you to >use a particular version of the software, which was then "upgraded" to >allow you to use a different, newer, version of the software (to wit: >4.0). And, it's not as if you paid full price for the EN4 license, is it, >now? You got a reduced rate update license, right? > >Until someone can quote, verbatim, a passage from an EndNote license >indicating otherwise, you have absolutely no legal grounds to pass on >your old version to someone else. Nor ethical grounds: a software >manufacturer invested several hundreds of thousands of >dollars/euros/pounds--indeed, possibly a million or two, although I don't >think EndNote is in this ballpark--into developing the new version, and >your upgrade fee is there to offset those costs. > >The "poor student" argument doesn't hold water in this context: poor >students can use Linux, TeX, and any of a dozen or so freeware software >solutions for the bibliographic database. There are free Perl libraries >for converting between about two gazillion different bibliog. database >formats. As easy to use as EndNote? No way, but who said that being a >student was supposed to be easy? Anyway, ISI offers student/university >discounts, doesn't it? > > >As to the technical question: nah, I don't suppose for a second that >there's any need to keep your EN 3 installers around. But I haven't >tested it. > > >Oh, year, and FTW: I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal >advice, if you want legal advice then consult a lawyer. That said, I >_have_ read the EndNote license and the quote above was taken verbatim. > > >Cheers, > >Peter > >- --------------------------- Dr. Peter Castine --------------------------- ><http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~pcastine/> > > `Just the place for a Snark!' I have said it twice > That alone should encourage the crew. > `Just the place for a Snark!' I have said it thrice > What I tell you three times is true. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:59:59 -0700 (PDT) >From: Kirsty Munro >Subject: Capitalisation of acronyms in title fields of citations > >Greetings fellow list members, > >Perhaps a basic question, however I cannot find information in >the reference manual to help... can somebody suggest how I can >ensure that words intended to be capitalised in the title of an >article of a journal, such as WTO, US, or UNDP etc, can come out >capitalised in a bibliography? I find that despite entering >these words in a capitalised format, they are printed in my >bibliography as follows: > >Stratfor Intelligence Service. The Wto and the Desynchronisation >of the Global Economy 1999 [cited 11 June 2000]. Available from >http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu/112999.asp. > >Singh, Someshwar. Wto Rules Must Become "Fair", Says Undp Report >Third World Network, 2000 [cited 11 June 2000]. Available from >http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/undp.htm. > >I was hoping to not have to use a "." between, for example, >W.T.O. > >I'd be interested if anyone had any suggestions on this. > >Kirsty Munro > > > >===== >Kirsty J Munro >Burgmann College, Australian National University, >GPO Box 1345, Canberra, ACT, 2601 >phone + 61 2 6267 5262 >fax + 61 2 6257 2655 > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com/ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:58:57 +0200 >From: Ingvar Ericson >Subject: Re: transfer of old licence > >>How about lending it? >>The original purchaser still holds the licence but moves the software to >>another machine (deleting from the original machine) and lets someone else >>use it free of charge. Of course this would be on the understanding that it >>is temporary use and would have to be returned ....sometime. > >David, > >I think the answer to that question is clear from Erics mail. "Since >EndNote is a single-user license, only one person may use one license >on one machine at one time." > >Best regards > >Ingvar Ericson > >**************************** >ProgramPaketet AB >Box 152 >SE-382 22 Nybro >Phone +46 481 511 23 >Fax +46 481 511 21 > >http://www.programpaketet.se > >------------------------------ > >End of endnote-interest-digest V1 #716 >************************************** > > >

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #716
Author: John Eustis Williams    Posted: 22/06/2000 18:43:06 GDT
I have discovered the EbscoHOST does host all their databases on a Z39.50 server and they can be accessed by either EndNote 3.0 or 4.0. However, neither EndNote or Ebsco offer connection or filter files. I have made a basic connection and filter for their PsycINFO database but it was very difficult to design the filter from scratch. The documentation that came with EndNote did not adequately address making filters. John Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rushton" To: Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:08 AM Subject: Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #716 Regarding John Williams note, I share your interest in Ebscohost. I was disappointed to find EndNote 3 wasn't compatible. I know EndNote 3 and I suspect EndNote 4 allow for customizing the linkages so you can download from databases not already included, but as a user with limited tech savvy, I found it rather complicated to follow the User manual on this process and gave up part way through. If anyone has some user-friendlier instructions for this customization I would certainly appreciate it, and maybe others too. My apologies if this has been addressed before and I missed it. Dave Rushton ________________________ At 02:00 2000-06-22 -0700, you wrote: > >endnote-interest-digest Thursday, June 22 2000 Volume 01 : Number 716 > > > >In this issue: > > Ebsco > Re: "update" version of Endnote 4 > Capitalisation of acronyms in title fields of citations > Re: transfer of old licence > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:23:12 -0500 >From: "John Eustis Williams" >Subject: Ebsco > >How come there are not any filters or connection files for EbscoHOST? They >offer just about every major database online today, including PsycINFO and >about every one that OCLC or OVID does. They do have a Z39.50 compliant >server. Has any one succeeded in connecting to their databases? > >John Williams > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:03:01 +0200 >From: Peter Castine >Subject: Re: "update" version of Endnote 4 > >On around Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:09:02 -0500, Steve Osborne said something like: > >>I disagree that you can't give away or sell your copy of a program. The only >>requirement is that you give or sell the original work (manuals & >>disks) and not >>retain a copy on your machine. > >I would suggest reading the license ISI includes with your copy of >EndNote. Taking five minutes to do so would obviate a flood of "I >think..." mails on the list. > >One basic principle is common to all commercial mass-market personal >computer software: you do NOT own the software. What you purchase is a >(non-exclusive) license to use the software. You generally own the media >the software is delivered on (nowadays typically a CD worth about, oh, >$1.75), but the rest of the price you paid is for a license to use. > >The reduced license fees for software updates generally reflect a >"no-can-sell-old-version" attitude on the part of the manufacturer. But, >read the license if you want to know the inside dope. > >Also, I have found some manufacturers are prepared to acknowledge a >transfer-of-license arrangement for older versions. But the only way to >find out if ISI is one of these is to ask. Do not assume they will say >yes. > >The main point to come to terms with is that you do n-o-t own the >software. > >What you have is a license. You have marginally more right to sell >(transfer) that license to someone else than you would to sell your >driver's license. > >Dave Braze added: >>about the legitimacy of giving away an old copy of Endnote, I'll quote >>from the >>Endnote License Agreement on page iii of my own Endnote 3 manual. >> >>"Licensor grants Customer and Customer accepts from Licensor, a perpetual, >>non-exclusive, and non-transferable license ... " >> >>I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not exactly sure what is meant by >>'non-exclusive' > >'Non-exclusive' means that you are not the only person in the world >allowed to use the software. Custom software is often written under >exclusive license (someone hires me to write a custom program for several >thousands of euros, she doesn't want me turning around and selling the >same program to her competitor for half price). Mass-market software is >always licensed non-exclusively (otherwise it wouldn't be mass-market). >Lawyers include the non-exclusive qualifier to avoid ambiguity. > >> but I >>think the intention behind the phrase 'non-transferable' is fairly clear. > >Agreed.-) > > >David Morgan argued: >>It seems to me that the legality goes like this. If you purchased a new >>version 4 license, then you have 2 licenses, and could sell or give away >>your version 3 license. > >If you're going to give advice like this, I would suggest that you >explicitly state that you are not a lawyer and what you're writing does >not constitute legal advice. In the USA I could probably follow your >argument, let ISI sue the pants off me, and then collect damages from you >for having advised me, making a nice little profit in the bargain. > >Again: *read* the license. If your EndNote 4.0 license is an upgrade to >your EndNote 3.0 license, then you do ***NOT*** have two licenses. You >have 1 (in words: one) license: a license that originally allowed you to >use a particular version of the software, which was then "upgraded" to >allow you to use a different, newer, version of the software (to wit: >4.0). And, it's not as if you paid full price for the EN4 license, is it, >now? You got a reduced rate update license, right? > >Until someone can quote, verbatim, a passage from an EndNote license >indicating otherwise, you have absolutely no legal grounds to pass on >your old version to someone else. Nor ethical grounds: a software >manufacturer invested several hundreds of thousands of >dollars/euros/pounds--indeed, possibly a million or two, although I don't >think EndNote is in this ballpark--into developing the new version, and >your upgrade fee is there to offset those costs. > >The "poor student" argument doesn't hold water in this context: poor >students can use Linux, TeX, and any of a dozen or so freeware software >solutions for the bibliographic database. There are free Perl libraries >for converting between about two gazillion different bibliog. database >formats. As easy to use as EndNote? No way, but who said that being a >student was supposed to be easy? Anyway, ISI offers student/university >discounts, doesn't it? > > >As to the technical question: nah, I don't suppose for a second that >there's any need to keep your EN 3 installers around. But I haven't >tested it. > > >Oh, year, and FTW: I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal >advice, if you want legal advice then consult a lawyer. That said, I >_have_ read the EndNote license and the quote above was taken verbatim. > > >Cheers, > >Peter > >- --------------------------- Dr. Peter Castine --------------------------- ><http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~pcastine/> > > `Just the place for a Snark!' I have said it twice > That alone should encourage the crew. > `Just the place for a Snark!' I have said it thrice > What I tell you three times is true. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:59:59 -0700 (PDT) >From: Kirsty Munro >Subject: Capitalisation of acronyms in title fields of citations > >Greetings fellow list members, > >Perhaps a basic question, however I cannot find information in >the reference manual to help... can somebody suggest how I can >ensure that words intended to be capitalised in the title of an >article of a journal, such as WTO, US, or UNDP etc, can come out >capitalised in a bibliography? I find that despite entering >these words in a capitalised format, they are printed in my >bibliography as follows: > >Stratfor Intelligence Service. The Wto and the Desynchronisation >of the Global Economy 1999 [cited 11 June 2000]. Available from >http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu/112999.asp. > >Singh, Someshwar. Wto Rules Must Become "Fair", Says Undp Report >Third World Network, 2000 [cited 11 June 2000]. Available from >http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/undp.htm. > >I was hoping to not have to use a "." between, for example, >W.T.O. > >I'd be interested if anyone had any suggestions on this. > >Kirsty Munro > > > >===== >Kirsty J Munro >Burgmann College, Australian National University, >GPO Box 1345, Canberra, ACT, 2601 >phone + 61 2 6267 5262 >fax + 61 2 6257 2655 > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com/ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:58:57 +0200 >From: Ingvar Ericson >Subject: Re: transfer of old licence > >>How about lending it? >>The original purchaser still holds the licence but moves the software to >>another machine (deleting from the original machine) and lets someone else >>use it free of charge. Of course this would be on the understanding that it >>is temporary use and would have to be returned ....sometime. > >David, > >I think the answer to that question is clear from Erics mail. "Since >EndNote is a single-user license, only one person may use one license >on one machine at one time." > >Best regards > >Ingvar Ericson > >**************************** >ProgramPaketet AB >Box 152 >SE-382 22 Nybro >Phone +46 481 511 23 >Fax +46 481 511 21 > >http://www.programpaketet.se > >------------------------------ > >End of endnote-interest-digest V1 #716 >************************************** > > >

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #717
Author: Dave Fitch    Posted: 23/06/2000 19:52:59 GDT
On 23/6/00, said: > >The "poor student" argument doesn't hold water in this context: poor > >students can use Linux, TeX, and any of a dozen or so freeware software > >solutions for the bibliographic database. The majority of the poor students I know are nowhere near computer literate enough to use Linux, Tex or anything else that's not easy to use and comes with a on-line manual. [C'mon, I know people doing Phd's who can't even type or use styles!!] >Anyway, ISI offers student/university discounts, doesn't it? Yes they do, but ISI has to deal with a number of issues first. Primarily, they've done zero publicity on EN 4, so nobody knows how good it is. Secondly [and actually *far* more importantly] their academic prices have in the past been *so bloody exorbitant* [in Europe, I know the US situation is completely different] that people [students in particular] will not **consider** the software. That the academic prices have dropped is almost irrelevant, because they don't know that prices have gone down, and won't look because they don't expect to be able to afford it. [I actually had this conversation yesterday with someone about EN.] Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave Fitch

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #717
Author: Ulrich Beutner    Posted: 26/06/2000 08:46:03 GDT
> > >Yes they do, but ISI has to deal with a number of issues first. >Primarily, they've done zero publicity on EN 4, so nobody knows how >good it is. > > >Dave > Dear Dave, please be careful with such absolute statements like "zero publicity". ISI has placed full page ads for EN4 in Science and Nature for several months. Where else should they place their ads - in your daily local newspaper? Also I consider it quite weird to complain about the price of EN (to which I agree to a certain extent) and at the same time about the lack of publicity. Publicity costs a damn lot of money, which you have to pay back by the software price. Just my 0.02 euro Ulrich Beutner -- ================================================ Ulrich Beutner, Ph.D. Chirurgische Universit”tsklinik Abt.: Exp. Transplantationsimmunologie (ETI) Josef-Schneider-Str. 2 97080 Wuerzburg Germany Tel. ++49 931 201-2252 FAX: ++49 931 201-2249 =================================================

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #717
Author: David L Morgan    Posted: 26/06/2000 23:44:01 GDT
>It seems that tehre are people i this group who dont read much. The end >note is quite popular and most peple know about it.. It is an isolated case >of absolute ignorance.. we are in 21 st Century Actually we are not. See http://www.rog.nmm.ac.uk/leaflets/new_mill.html (Sorry to be off topic, but the claim of ignorance and the display of ignorance were too much for me.) -- _________________________________________________________ David Morgan Reader, Dept Elec & Comp Sys Engineering, Research Director, Monash University Centre for Biomedical Engineering, Associate of the Department of Physiology, P. O. Box 35, Monash University, Vic, 3800, Australia. Phone (61) (3) 9905 3483, Fax (61) (3) 9905 1820

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #719
Author: Huang, Li-Yen M    Posted: 27/06/2000 16:30:42 GDT
Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #719 > > > endnote-interest-digest Tuesday, June 27 2000 Volume 01 : Number > 719 > > > > In this issue: > > Updating old Temporary Citation Delimiters? > Re: Styles - mixed languages > Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #717 > Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #717 > Re: Updating old Temporary Citation Delimiters? > RE: Styles - mixed languages > In text citation font size > Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #717 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:36:46 -0400 > From: Loren Ryter > Subject: Updating old Temporary Citation Delimiters? > > Hello... I'd like to change the Temporary Citation Delimiters from [] > to {} in EN 4 (Mac). The problem is that all my old documents have > the old []. Is there a way to update these? I could do a search & > replace in Word, but the problem is that the reason I want to change > them in the first place is that I use the [] brackets for other > purposes, such as alterations in quotations, as in: "[He] said..." > In EN 3 I always got mismatched citations. (Actually I wonder how > other people have dealt with this problem.) > > Thanks... > > - -- > .......................................................... > e-mail: > www: http://students.washington.edu/loren/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:27:08 +0100 > From: michael edwards > Subject: Re: Styles - mixed languages > > Martina: >>At the moment I'm editing a new style for German references in > EndNote. The > >>problem I have is that in an german manuscript EndNote should format > german > >>references in german style and english references in english. How can I > edit > >>a style that is language sensitive? > > Ingvar: "I don't know of any method to make styles "language" senstitive." > > More generally - will anyone ever write a word-processor which can cope > with mixed languages in the same docuement - spelling, grammar, etc??? > > > *******************end of message******************** > New courses, scholarships - info at....... > http://www.bartlett.ucl.ac.uk/courses/planning/ > ************************************************************* > Michael Edwards, Bartlett School, UCL, 22 Gordon Street London WC1H 0QB > w: http://www.bartlett.ucl.ac.uk/staff/edwards.htm > t: +44 (0)20 7679 4874 > f: +44 (0)20 7679 7502 > admin: +44 (0)20 7679 7456 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:46:03 +0200 > From: Ulrich Beutner > Subject: Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #717 > > > > > > >Yes they do, but ISI has to deal with a number of issues first. > >Primarily, they've done zero publicity on EN 4, so nobody knows how > >good it is. > > > > > >Dave > > > > Dear Dave, > please be careful with such absolute statements like "zero > publicity". ISI has placed full page ads for EN4 in Science and > Nature for several months. Where else should they place their ads - > in your daily local newspaper? Also I consider it quite weird to > complain about the price of EN (to which I agree to a certain extent) > and at the same time about the lack of publicity. Publicity costs a > damn lot of money, which you have to pay back by the software price. > > Just my 0.02 euro > > Ulrich Beutner > - -- >

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #719
Author: Tech Support    Posted: 27/06/2000 21:21:25 GDT
>Is there any way that I can use endnote with FrameMaker? Hi, Absolutely. It's covered in detail in the manual Chapter 11 on "Citing References & Generating Bibliographies Without the Add-in" and Appendix B section on "FrameMaker compatibility". Best regards Ingvar Ericson **************************** ProgramPaketet AB Box 152 382 22 Nybro Tel 0481-511 23 Fax 0481-511 21 http://www.programpaketet.se

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #719
Author: Greg Hurrell    Posted: 28/06/2000 01:57:58 GDT
on 28/06/2000 1:00 AM, Huang, Li-Yen M. at wrote: > Is there any way that I can use endnote with FrameMaker? As already noted, yes you can (see the manual). I've been using EndNote with FrameMaker for about half a year now. It's not quite as convenient as the Word Add-in, but in my view it's worth it for the opportunity to use such a robust, powerful long-document publishing solution as FrameMaker. Greg

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #723
Author: Jens J Hansen    Posted: 03/07/2000 02:09:47 GDT
Hi Peter Castine and thank you for making, with reasonable assertiveness, the point about excessive and needless inclusion of source questions and all subsequent discussions. There is an exception to your suggested guideline of not posting back such excess cyber volume, and that is to include pertinent bits of the source question when addressing that matter. I find that with a qualitative research list-serve I'm a member of, the most useful learning for me occurs when I keep the answer and the question together as a coherent but unified whole. Together, meaning becomes potent, but separately, their relevance becomes diluted. cheers Jens ___________________________________ Jens J. Hansen, Ph.D.(New England) Senior Lecturer, Master of Educational Management, UNITEC, Tomorrow's University, Te Kura Puukenga o Wairaka, Private Bag 92025, Auckland, New Zealand UNITEC Phone: 64 9 815 4321 Ext. 8797 UNITEC Fax: 64 9 815 4310 UNITEC email: 91 Domain Cresent, Muriwai Beach, RD 1 Waimauku, West Auckland, New Zealand Home Phone: 64 9 411 7703

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #728
Author: Sarah Romans    Posted: 12/07/2000 11:03:19 GDT
I think that Endnote to Palm would be great in theory and would love to trial it. I am not aaway right now how I would do that . Can users outline how they go about this please? SR At 02:00 12/07/00 -0700, endnote-interest-digest wrote: >I have to second the sentiment that it would be nice to have a direct >connection between Endnote and the palm. I've made a major investment >of time and money in the software needed to run the third party >application, PocketCites, and God bless Loren Ryter for inventing it, but >I think Endnote could really stand to make a lot of money if it could buy >Loren out and/or make its own conduit. I've spent more time and money on >this tranfer process than I did on buying and learning Endnote in the >first place. And when I explain Endnote to my uninformed grad student >& faculty friends, they get excited, but when I tell them they can run it >on a Palm, their eyes start popping out of their heads. If that's not >high demand I don't know what is. :) > >Best, >Diana Williams > >History of American Civilization >Harvard University Sarah E Romans Work ph 0064 3 474-7989 Work fax 0064 3 474-7934

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #732
Author: Darren Eger    Posted: 18/07/2000 23:31:02 GDT
Hi, just to let you all know that I solved my search problem. I re-installed endnote recently and forgot to also run the 3.1.3 updater that fixes the bug with OS9. All's well.... :) Cheers Darren -- _________________________________________________ Darren Eger Melbourne, Australia Ph/Fax: 61 03 9502 0025 Email: _________________________________________________

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #736
Author: Sarah Romans    Posted: 22/07/2000 22:37:10 GDT
At 02:00 22/07/00 -0700, you wrote: >endnote-interest-digest Saturday, July 22 2000 Volume 01 : Number 736 I am another definite starter for EN on a Palm, I have been deeply attached to EN now for several years, appreciating the increased functionality that comes with each big upgrade. I also have a Palm which I use for my diary/address/to do requirements. A marriage between the two would be terrific. SR Sarah E Romans Work ph 0064 3 474-7989 Work fax 0064 3 474-7934

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #736
Author: W F McClure    Posted: 24/07/2000 14:11:39 GDT
PEN SCANNERS: Is there any consideration being given to integrating a pen scanner to work with Endnote? That would be super! Mac

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #736
Author: Michael Coxon    Posted: 25/07/2000 14:18:01 GDT
problem with endnote, when searching Newcastle Uni's database through 'connection' cannot get any type of work other than books, is there a way to ask it to find journals for the search term? Michael Coxon IT Consultant University of Durham ITS Dept, Science Site South Road, Durham, DH1 3LE Tel (0191) 374 2881 e-mail web site www.dur.ac.uk/~dcl0mac

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #736
Author: Wooden Brain Concepts    Posted: 29/07/2000 15:29:24 GDT
> >Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:17:32 -0800 >From: "David K. Anderson" >Subject: Endnote on a PDA > >For those of you who might not know, there is a program out there if you >work on a Macintosh. It is called Pocketcite, and can be found at PalmGear, >search for Endnote and it will come up (www.palmgear.com). It does require >Jfile (a database program), but it may be worth looking into. As for the >rest of us that use a PC, why can't somebody write a program like this for >us? It shouldn't be that difficult, just customizing some sort of database >template to the Endnote format with an automatic filter for Endnote located >in the conduit. Maybe as a temporary work around, someone could create a >filter, and references could be entered in notepad or some other document >creator, with the filter created to recognize the predetermined format. >Sound too difficult? Hello, I'm the creator of PocketCites for the Mac. I've had numerous inquiries about porting it to a PC, but I do not have a Windows machine and simply do not have the time to learn the file system and scripting for Windows. I have responded to these inquires by saying that I will share development information with anyone who wishes to develop a Windows version and is serious about doing so. A quick solution would be quite easy to devise, though something more elegant would take some time. As for EndNote, the program itself has serious limitations, at least on the Mac end of things, for developing a conduit. On the Mac, EndNote is not a scriptable application, which means that third-party programs cannot really control anything it does, but only work with the data files in generates or exports. Only that ability would make development of a proper conduit truly possible. Those in the know about that, please correct me if I'm mistaken. I'm a social sciences grad student, not a full-blown software engineer. For the time being, windows users could refer to my Web site (under the Other Notes section) for some basic information on using the existing PocketCites export style to manually generate an export file that could ultimately be converted to JFile or presumably some other Palm database. The notes are for Mac users, and some research would need to be done into the available Windows utilities for converting tab-delimited text files into Palm databases. For everyone to do this on their own, however, would involve a lot of re-inventing of the wheel. I await interest from Windows developers. -- .......................................................... e-mail: www: http://beam.to/woodenbrain

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #740
Author: Michael Coxon    Posted: 31/07/2000 15:00:28 GDT
Question, when searching through and online connection database cannot get any type of work other than books, is there a way to ask it to find journals for the search term? Michael Coxon IT Consultant University of Durham ITS Dept, Science Site South Road, Durham, DH1 3LE Tel (0191) 374 2881 e-mail web site www.dur.ac.uk/~dcl0mac

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #740
Author: Colin-rogers    Posted: 31/07/2000 21:13:05 GDT
This depends, presumably, on the database you are searching. If you are connected to a library book catalogue, books are all you would expect to get. Lancaster library does not list journal content on its catalogue and I expect Durham is the same. Colin Rogers Dept Educational Research Lancaster University. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Coxon" To: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 3:00 PM Subject: RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #740 > > Question, when searching through and online connection database cannot get > any type of work other than books, is there a way to ask it to find journals > for the search term? > > Michael Coxon > IT Consultant > University of Durham > ITS Dept, Science Site > South Road, Durham, DH1 3LE > Tel (0191) 374 2881 > e-mail > web site www.dur.ac.uk/~dcl0mac >

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #749
Author: Peter Underwood    Posted: 15/08/2000 15:13:00 GDT
Chris, Two suggestions, 1. If you go to the Microsoft web site you can search for "supplemental text converters" and find a patch program that will incorporate into MSword to allow you to view/edit Ami Pro documents and see appropriate formatting as per the original document. I know they have one because I have installed it myself a few years back. (this patch is free) 2. You could otherwise by a commercial conversion program such as Keyview Pro (there are many available) that allows you to convert between most any word-processing files or at least view the original formatting of the document without owning the original program. Peter ***** Peter Underwood, Pharm.D. Clinical Pharmacist & Lead Medical Writer Jarosz Regulatory Services, Inc. 1634 W. Wildwood Rd., Whitewater, WI 53190-1512, USA Phone: 262-473-4255 FAX: 262-473-7155 E-mail: Chris wrote: ********************** Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:08:38 +0100 From: "Chris Evans" Subject: Off topic: Ami pro file conversion I have inherited some files in Ami pro format. I would like to convert them to RTF or Word doc format. Anyone got advice as to the best route? I find that the tools I routinely use don't recognise Ami Pro and, while it's easy to see the text there, so much formatting and other gunk is seen as text by Word that its "extract text" option isn't a good one. **************************************

Endnote on a PDA ; Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #752
Author: Wooden Brain Concepts    Posted: 19/08/2000 17:33:38 GDT
> > >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:58:25 +0100 >From: Marcus Wigan >Subject: Re: digest #735: Endnote on PDA - and Darwin? > >Endnote on a PDA > >I already use my palm3x extensively for notes and references:a >limited version o f endnote would already be used heavily. It doesnt >need a great deal o functionality, but it does need a Conduit-- Wooden Brain Concepts is pleased to announce that a Windows version of PocketCites--which facilitates the transfer of Endnote records to JFile for PalmOS is currently in development and a beta release is forthcoming. A public release is scheduled within a month. While it will not be a true conduit because of Endnote does not allow interface with external applications, PocketCites allows exported records to be converted to JFile databases and vice versa. Mac users can already use PocketCites for this purpose. See the URL below. Regards, Loren Wooden Brain Concepts -- .......................................................... e-mail: www: http://beam.to/woodenbrain

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #758
Author: Harrie Knippenberg    Posted: 31/08/2000 15:00:42 GDT
Dear Douglas, Is this a good idea about WoS? You probably lose a lot of search power in this way (citation searching) and there is a good alternative: the "export" button in WoS leading directly to Endnote. Kindest regards Harrie Knippenberg University of Nijmegen The Netherlands > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:09:58 +0000 > From: "Douglas B. Kell" > Subject: Z39.50 at Web of Science > > Dear Dave, > > In which case, I hope you will listen to EVERYONE in the UK > who wants two major things: > > (i) Z39.50 access to WoS so we can pull our refs in directly as we > could with the wonderful and much-lamented BIDS. > (ii) Backwards compatibility between EN4 and EN3. > > I can see no technical reason why either should not be implemented. > Endnote was a superb product, and I hope it will remain so through > the agency - as you say - of ISI 'listening and working to satisfy > our bibliographic software needs'. > > Kind regards and many thanks, > Douglas. > > ____________________ > Send reply to:

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #760
Author: Michael Coxon    Posted: 04/09/2000 15:21:22 GDT
In endnote I've noticed that if I have two references of the same author and title yet they have separate #id's and I cite them in a paper using the two separate #id's, when it comes to format the bibliography endnote treats them as the same reference is there a workaround for this? Michael Coxon IT Consultant University of Durham ITS Dept, Science Site South Road, Durham, DH1 3LE Tel (0191) 374 2881 e-mail web site www.dur.ac.uk/~dcl0mac

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #763
Author: Lynn L Thomas    Posted: 11/09/2000 18:20:34 GDT
Concerning Koen Grijspeerdt's non-redundant question about an automatic incrementing field: In the absence of one (I would actually need a "semi-automatic" one, i.e., one a user could modify), I keep a record at the top of my file (by calling its "Author" AAA) with my Accession number in it. I increment it as I add a new item. Lynn Thomas, Anthropology, Pomona College Claremont, California ------------ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:06:45 +0200 From: (Koen Grijspeerdt) Subject: Automatic incrementing field? Hello, I'm an Endnote novice, so may be this is a redundant question. I would like to create an automatic incrementing field, so that when I add a reference that the value of this field is automatically is calculated as e.g. (previous highest field value + 1). This is in fact comparable with some kind of record index, and I would like to use it to file the papers. I read that the real record index is better not used for filing purposes, because its value is totally out of control for the user. Previously, I used a home-made Access database to work with my literature references, and there it was very easy to create an automatic incrementing field. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks in advance, Koen Grijspeerdt Department of Animal Product Quality Brusselsesteenweg 370 B-9090 Melle Tel: +32 9 272 30 12 Fax: +32 9 272 30 01 e-mail: http://www.clo.fgov.be/dvk.htm

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #764
Author: Michael Coxon    Posted: 12/09/2000 12:42:26 GDT
In endnote I've noticed that if I have two references of the same author and title yet they have separate #id's and I cite them in a paper using the two separate #id's, when it comes to format the bibliography endnote treats them as the same reference is there a workaround for this? Michael Coxon IT Consultant University of Durham ITS Dept, Science Site South Road, Durham, DH1 3LE Tel (0191) 374 2881 e-mail web site www.dur.ac.uk/~dcl0mac

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #776
Author: Schock Michael    Posted: 05/10/2000 18:02:30 GDT
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:54:11 +1000 From: "Gaye Wilson" Subject: mismatching citations I am trying to format a bibliography from a list of references. I am using Endnote 4 and Word 97 on a PC. Every time I try to get the bibliography formatted, it returns many, and I mean many, "mismatched citations". I mean, I ask it to format 2 references, and it tells me there are 49 mismatched citations! I've checked for viruses, I've rebooted, I cut and pasted into another document, but the result is the same. I pulled out all the year 2000 references, and put them into a new bibliography, and then just used that one, but it is still bringing up citations that don't exist on the the database. ANy ideas on what is happening here? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gaye Wilson Administrative Officer (Web and Publications) School of Business Room 434, Merewether Building H04 Ph. 9351 4677, Fax. 9351 6638 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Gaye; When I have had a somewhat similar problem, it has usually been because I didn't properly delimit the references with the temporary citation delimiters, perhaps through oversight or typographic errors. I've also had to change the delimiters sometimes because of the same characters being used elsewhere in the text. In my field, I tend to use the tilda and vertical bar (~ and |) which minimizes conflict opportunities for me. So, you might very carefully check what are set as your delimiter characters in Endnote preferences, and whether or not there possible conflicts in your manuscript. Just a possible idea.... Good luck!! Michael R. Schock Chemist Water Supply & Water Resources Division, MS B-24 National Risk Management Research Laboratory, USEPA 26 W. Martin Luther King Dr. Cincinnati, OH 45268 513.569.7412 (P) 513.569.7172 (fax)

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #778
Author: Arie Nadler    Posted: 07/10/2000 15:51:34 GDT
i am new to endnote 4.0. is it possible to make a reference list (in Word) into references in the endnote data base? More specifically: Let's say that I have an article with 3 references (to make the thing simple). Can I ask endnote to take these 3 references and add them into my database? tnx arie nadler

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #791
Author: Senier, Laura USARIEM    Posted: 26/10/2000 18:36:37 GDT
Reply to the person who wants to know how to import PubMed records into EndNote 4 on the PC. You can also use Internet Grateful Med to perform your search, then download your selected records to disk and import them to EN. When downloading, make sure you select the options, "Long records with abstracts and MeSH headings," and the format, "Tagged MEDLARS format (suitable for loading into reference manager programs)." This saves the records to a text file on your hard drive. You can then launch EndNote, open a reference library, and select Import from the File menu. Make sure you use the Import Filter called MedLine (NLM). Although this sounds like a lot of work, it's sometimes easier because the search functions in IGM are much more powerful than the search options allowed when searching PubMed through EndNote (e.g., in IGM you can restrict searches to ranges of years and can easily search for related articles). Good luck! Laura Senier U.S. Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine 42 Kansas Street Natick, MA 01760 -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 5:00 AM To: Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #791 Re: Saving a PubMed search for import ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:36:07 -0500 From: "Peter Underwood" Subject: Saving a PubMed search for import Hello all, I am looking for the proper way to save searches from PubMed for import into EN4 (PC). I am not sure if I am running into a browser problem or a PubMed problem. After performing a search, I choose the dropdown selector next to "display" to "MEDLINE" and then I click on the "save" button. After I choose the "save to disk" option the "Save as" box comes up with a default file name of "query.fcgi" and a default file type of ".fcgi document". I have been changing the file name to a descriptive name with a .txt file extension and then changing the file type to "All files". This seems like an unusual method to set up a download (and difficult to explain to novice users). If I click on the "Text" button instead of the "Save" button I essentially have to go through the same process using the "file save" function of the browser (default file name is still "query.fcgi" but default file type is now ".html or web page"). Is there a more straightforward (intuitive) way to save search results? It works the way I do it but I would think that the download would default to a .txt file type and file extension. This would make explaining how to download a search to novice users a bit easier. Peter ***** Peter Underwood, Pharm.D. Clinical Pharmacist & Lead Medical Writer Jarosz Regulatory Services, Inc. 1634 W. Wildwood Rd., Whitewater, WI 53190-1512, USA Phone: 262-473-4255 FAX: 262-473-7155 E-mail: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:23:27 CDT From: Shelly S Stecker Subject: Re: Saving a PubMed search for import Peter, You can perform your PubMed search directly from Endnote 4. First go to the file menu and choose Connections Files. Then choose connections manager. Under Connections Manager click in the box beside PubMed (NLM) and a checkmark will appear. Choose Connect to under the file menu and then choose PubMed (NLM). A search window will appear and allow you to do a PubMed search. These results can be directly added to your custom library. Hope this helps. Shelly

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #798
Author: Balraj Jhawar    Posted: 05/11/2000 21:00:34 GMT
What I do is convert endnote files to *.txt files (within endnote). then I import these into Excel. Do the appropriate formatting. Finally I save them (with Excel) to comma delimited files (*.csv). This is then easily supported by most PDA spreadsheets. BJ -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 2:00 AM To: Subject: endnote-interest-digest V1 #798 endnote-interest-digest Saturday, November 4 2000 Volume 01 : Number 798 In this issue: EndNote with PDA's using Palm OS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:57:29 +0100 From: "Are Knudsen" Subject: EndNote with PDA's using Palm OS Hello: Some time ago there were postings to this list on how to use the EndNote with a handheld. Can any of you describe how you use EndNote with a Palm OS device (Palm Pilot, Handspring). Please include details of how to migrate the Enl-file to the device, any need for third party software, experiences, tips, size limitations, etc. Sincerely, Are <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Are Knudsen, Research Fellow =20 Chr. Michelsen Institute Phone: 47-55 57 42 40 Fantoftvegen 38 Fax: 47-55 57 41 66 =20 N-5036 Fantoft Norway www.cmi.no ------------------------------ End of endnote-interest-digest V1 #798 **************************************

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #777--Could we have another type of
Author: NA    Posted: 05/11/2000 22:11:11 GMT
digest messages? Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Dear Web server master and group members, Having been reading all the digests, I have another thinking of digest messages. I understand that this list is going with any of the emaerging problems or usages of EndNote that people have along the time order. However, I saw some of the questions repeated. could we have an other type of digests? For example, I would like to read a message with a title as "How to deal with mismatching citations?" or " pdf files and EN" in stead of look at the digest number at the subject field. I know there are questions beyond the guide book and the FAQs at Endnote web site. However, reading each message is very time consuming. This is just a second thought for your reference. Thank you for your time reading this message. Apprecite it! Sincerely, Baohui _______________________________________ Baohui Zhang Former Lecturer of Beijing Normal University, Beijing, China Phd student and Research Assistant Center for Highly Interactive Computing in Education: hi-ce Major: Educational Technology and Science Education School of Education, University of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1259 Tel.: (734) 764-2839(SEB 4043); (734) 763-8502 (H - New!) Email: Check out our program's website: http://hi-ce.org; http://hi-ce.eecs.umich.edu

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #800
Author: Andrew Sparling    Posted: 09/11/2000 05:29:22 GMT
Lynne Barrington wrote: > >Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:33:11 +1100 >From: Lynne Barrington >Subject: Upgrade issues:Word 5.1to 98/00; Endnote 2 to3 or 4 > >Greetings All > >I am asking this on behalf of another PhD student: > > >>My Mac at home is a Power Mac 5500/250, originally with system 7.5.5 but > >>upgraded to OS 8.0, then later to OS 8.2. I am still running Word 5.1 with > >>the EndNote Plus plug-in module 2.0.3. I realise these are very old, but > >>my problem is that my PhD uses these and I was reluctant to risk changing > >>things. I was going to upgrade to current versions when I finished my PhD > >>(which will be next year I hope!). > >>I realised I had a problem when I took a chapter of my PhD to work and > >>opened it. To my horror, although the later version of Word of course > >>reads the word document OK, it doesn't read the citations from EndNote and > >>huge blank spaces appears wherever there is a citation from EndNote in the > >>text. > >>What I need to know is > >>(1) if I upgrade to the latest version of Word and latest version of > >>EndNote, will the newer version of EndNote read my EndNote reference > >>library from the older version? > >>(2) given the limitations of my computer, would I be better off upgrading > >>to Word 98 and Endnote 3, and would that work OK with my old Word > >>documents and Endnote Plus libraries? > >lynne > As a subscriber to the Word list as well as the Endnote one, I think that your friend would be crazy at this point to "upgrade" to the latest version of Word with a mission-critical document like a dissertation. If he or she wants to work on the dissertation at work, then I would suggest installing Word 5.1 and Endnote on the work machine or carrying a laptop back and forth from home to work. If the student needs to print, I would get Adobe Acrobat Writer (I pad $99 for a student copy) and make PDF files that can be printed anywhere, on a PC or Mac. Now, I am using Endnote 4 with Word 5.1, even though Endnote 4 does not work with the Word Add-In (at least under OS 9). (Although Endnote does work by embedding citations directly from the program, I have not used this capability. I just cut and paste formatted citations [cmd-K] as I need them) I would recommend Endnote 4 on its own merits. Word 98, though, has a long history of messing up people's documents (including dissertations). If there are no features in Word 98 that you *need* for your dissertation, then what would be the point of substituting a less stable and less reliable program for a more stable and more reliable program? None that I can see. Why borrow trouble? Add to this the fact that Word 5.1a is a better, easier-to-use interface, and I would say the choice is clear. Writing a dissertation is already stressful enough without a recalcitrant word processor. Andrew Sparling Duke University

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #762
Author: TATSUMI K    Posted: 28/11/2000 11:02:25 GMT
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Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #810
Author: Harry Hoffner    Posted: 28/11/2000 15:51:45 GMT
Re: EndNote 4 and Nisus 6.0 I have been using both together for about two weeks with no problem. I have *not*, however been using huge documents (i.e., book length); so I cannot assure you that the two will work together with a large project like that. Good luck. If it works, please tell me, since I too have been considering using Nisus 6 and EndNote for larger projects like yours. -- Harry A. Hoffner, Jr., John A. Wilson Professor of Hittitology Emeritus, The Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, 1155 E. 58th St., Chicago, IL 60637. Voice: (773) 702-9527. Fax (office) (773) 702-9853, (home fax) (630) 910-0396 "It takes all the running you can do to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!" said the Queen. ­ Alice In Wonderland > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:13:16 +1030 > From: Vanda Rounsefell > Subject: EndNote-Nisus > > I'm writing a huge Dissertation on Word 8 for Mac with EndNote 4, using > Masterdoc feature, on a G4 Mac with lots of memory. > > Have an ongoing saga around crashing & Word quitting & a history of a > traumatic changeover to EndNote 4. Something bad is going on that I & my > advisers can't finger, but it does seem to involve the instability & > bugginess of MS Word 8/97 with large documents. > > Someone advised me to change to Nisus, which seems to work with EndNote, > although the websites don't mention if it can work with Nisus 6.0 > > Can anyone tell me anything about Nisus 6.0 (or maybe earlier) in terms of > suitability for use with EndNote along with suitability for huge documents, > 1000s of footnotes, captions like Word can do & alternating portrait & > landscape page orientations? > > It's a time-consuming idea to change over but if I can be confident it will > do the job I'll consider it. > > Thanks > Vanda Rounsefell > > > > Dr Vanda Rounsefell > Ecoweb Human Ecology Services > 68 Battams Road Marden SA 5070 Australia > 61 (0)8 8362 1771 > 61 (0)8 8363 0544 fax > 0427 864 318 mobile > > > > ------------------------------

RE: endnote-interest-digest V1 #812
Author: Jones, David G    Posted: 01/12/2000 13:58:31 GMT
On about Wed, 29 Nov 2000 Leigh Ina Hunt asked: I'm using EndNote 3.1.2 with Word97. Before I install EndNote 4, I'd like to understand the following: 1. Is EndNote 4 compatible with Word97? If not, what do I need to know before I begin using Endnote 4 with Word97? 2. Is the EndNote 3 book compatible with EndNote 4? (I did not receive a new book with my upgrade....) >From my experience... 1. I have had no problems using Endnote 4 with Word 97 2. New features will not be covered in the endnote 3 manual Dave Jones Dr David G Jones British Geological Survey Keyworth Nottingham NG12 5GG E-mail

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #813
Author: Ben Barnes    Posted: 05/12/2000 00:18:51 GMT
This is I hope a very simple question. I want to get digest #812. Is there an archive, or any other way to do so? Thanks, Ben

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #817
Author: Selden Deemer    Posted: 09/12/2000 22:02:41 GMT
Do you know for sure that the BN has a Z39.50 server? My recollection is that French libraries in general have been somewhat laggard in this area. The best source that I have for European Z39.50 server information is the Z39.50 target directory, maintained by IndexData of Denmark: http://www.indexdata.dk/targettest/ Perhaps Francesco Dell'Orso, an occasional contributor to this list, and residing in France at last report, can provide some tips on this. ====================================================================== Selden Deemer, Library Systems Administrator PHONE: 404-727-0271 Emory University Libraries FAX: 404-727-0053 Atlanta, Georgia EMAIL: ====================================================================== On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Frank Davis wrote: > Does anyone know of an EndNote connection file for Bibliotheque nationale > de France? Or does anyone know of connection files for other research > libraries in France? > Thanks, > Frank Davis > University of Kentucky > Frank Davis Phone: 859-323-3983 > Information & Education Services Fax: 859-323-1040 > Medical Center Library Email: > University of Kentucky http://www.mc.uky.edu/MedLibrary > 800 Rose Street > Lexington, KY 40536

RE: endnote-interest-digest
Author: Felix F K Li    Posted: 23/12/2000 09:27:40 GMT
Hi, As a medical personnel, the only database I use daily is the PubMed, which is freely available on the internet. On the other hand, I found that connection to PubMed using Endnote connection file is always fraught with problems. Unlike other databases, esp. those public library databases (the connection of which is always a piece of cake), connection to PubMed is sensitively affected by the LAN settings or many other glitches. Recently, our LAN setting was changed from "Proxy server" to "Use automatic configuration script". After entering the address, the connection to PubMed broke down again!!! I must say that connections to all other database remains perfect. Anyone in the audience can lift the spells of PubMed connection? Felix Li Hong Kong

Re: endnote-interest-digest V1 #825
Author: Randy De Kler    Posted: 23/12/2000 17:56:47 GMT
Angela, EN v4 can export libraries in HTML format. It's not static database, but it would allow easier Web access. Randy De Kler Georgia State University Atlanta, GA >>> 12/23/00 05:00AM >>> endnote-interest-digest Saturday, December 23 2000 Volume 01 : Number 825 In this issue: Web Poster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:47:16 -0800 From: Angela Woodall Subject: Web Poster Has anyone used ISI's Web Poster for making EN dbase available on a website? I'd appreciate if you would send me your URL so that I can take a look/drive. Otherwise, any thoughts on the matter? Recommendations? Experiences? I've been ruminating on this procedure for a while, looking for an alternative but hmmmm....haven't found one yet - although DreamWeaver holds potential. So, I'll go w/ WP for now. Thanks and happy holidays angela ************************************************************************** Angela Woodall Berkeley Geochronology Center (510) 644-9200 2455 Ridge Road Berkeley, California 94709 ------------------------------ End of endnote-interest-digest V1 #825 **************************************

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