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Author:    Posted: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:56:27 -0400
Greetings, My name is Bart Bruehler a Ph.D. student at Emory University, and this is my first time on the Endnote listserv. I am currently using Endnote on my dissertation with SBL (Society of Biblical Literature) style, which is not on the Endnote list but derived from Chicago 14a. I was led here by two specific questions. 1. The chapters of my dissertation are in separate files. The standards of SBL style require that if a source has been cited in a previous chapter the citation in the later chapter should be in short form. However, because each new chapter is a separate file, the first citation of any source is always given in full form, which I do not want if I have cited the full form in a previous chapter/file. Does anyone know how to force Endnote to use only the short form of a citation in a new file? 2. In some cases I need an entry to be capitalized in the bibliography but lowercase in the footnotes. For example, with a revised edition, I need "rev. ed." to follow the semicolon in the footnote, but "Rev. ed." to follow the period in the bibliography. Does anyone know how to set capitalization for this type of field? I have found capitalization settings for authors and titles but nothing else. Thank you for any assistance. Bart Bart B. Bruehler Office of University-Community Partnerships Fellow Graduate Division of Religion Office: 404-712-8139 Cell: 404-314-4715 ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: End Note Q's
Author:    Posted: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:28:48 -0400
Hi Bart! I also use SBL format for my PhD thesis. It is trickier than most other styles since it's quite complex. I created my own style file based on what others on this list had kindly sent me. For your question 2, my solution is to have two separate fields for the edition, one for fn, the other for the biblio. Then you enter the edition into each field with the appropriate capitalization. I find that capitalization features in EN to be worthless when you're dealing with multiple languages with different capitalization rules and special abbreviation. Turn the cap features off and always enter texts in the case you want. For question 1. It depends if you'll keep the field codes or will you remove them (e.g. for manual editing purposes). If you keep the codes, then by the time you're ready to print out your complete dissertation, you can put all your chapters into one big file and reformat the bibliography. For me, I work with one big (and growing bigger) word document. When I want to sent a chapter to someone, I print the appropriate pages to a pdf file and/or copy and paste the pages to a new document. I also archive older versions of the master document just in case I mess up. In any case, I expect I'd have to go through the whole thesis at the end to clean up my footnotes and bibliography. With the complexity of the SBL style and the PhD project, I don't think EN can be trusted with perfect formatting without human checking. I'm still experimenting with what is to best way to manage my document. So this may not turn out to be the best way. I welcome any suggestions by others. Bye! Marcus > From: /> > Reply-To: /> > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:56:27 -0400 (EDT) > To: /> > Subject: End Note Q's > > Greetings, > > My name is Bart Bruehler a Ph.D. student at Emory University, and this is my > first time on the Endnote listserv. I am currently using Endnote on my > dissertation with SBL (Society of Biblical Literature) style, which is not on > the Endnote list but derived from Chicago 14a. I was led here by two specific > questions. > > 1. The chapters of my dissertation are in separate files. The standards of SBL > style require that if a source has been cited in a previous chapter the > citation in the later chapter should be in short form. However, because each > new chapter is a separate file, the first citation of any source is always > given in full form, which I do not want if I have cited the full form in a > previous chapter/file. Does anyone know how to force Endnote to use only the > short form of a citation in a new file? > > 2. In some cases I need an entry to be capitalized in the bibliography but > lowercase in the footnotes. For example, with a revised edition, I need "rev. > ed." to follow the semicolon in the footnote, but "Rev. ed." to follow the > period in the bibliography. Does anyone know how to set capitalization for > this type of field? I have found capitalization settings for authors and > titles but nothing else. > > Thank you for any assistance. > > Bart > > Bart B. Bruehler > Office of University-Community Partnerships Fellow > Graduate Division of Religion > Office: 404-712-8139 > Cell: 404-314-4715 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: End Note Q's
Author:    Posted: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:58:32 -0400
At some point, will you merge the chapters? I assume you will. When you do this, the references will show up the way you want them. Not sure why you have each chapter as a file. If you use headings and table of contents in Word, you could work with your full dissertation in one document... -----Original Message----- From: on behalf of Sent: Thu 7/14/2005 6:56 PM To: Cc: Subject: End Note Q's Greetings, My name is Bart Bruehler a Ph.D. student at Emory University, and this is my first time on the Endnote listserv. I am currently using Endnote on my dissertation with SBL (Society of Biblical Literature) style, which is not on the Endnote list but derived from Chicago 14a. I was led here by two specific questions. 1. The chapters of my dissertation are in separate files. The standards of SBL style require that if a source has been cited in a previous chapter the citation in the later chapter should be in short form. However, because each new chapter is a separate file, the first citation of any source is always given in full form, which I do not want if I have cited the full form in a previous chapter/file. Does anyone know how to force Endnote to use only the short form of a citation in a new file? 2. In some cases I need an entry to be capitalized in the bibliography but lowercase in the footnotes. For example, with a revised edition, I need "rev. ed." to follow the semicolon in the footnote, but "Rev. ed." to follow the period in the bibliography. Does anyone know how to set capitalization for this type of field? I have found capitalization settings for authors and titles but nothing else. Thank you for any assistance. Bart Bart B. Bruehler Office of University-Community Partnerships Fellow Graduate Division of Religion Office: 404-712-8139 Cell: 404-314-4715 ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: End Note Q's
Author:    Posted: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:44:00 -0400
In order to get Chicago to function like SBL expects, you will need to modify the style template. In Endnote 5 this involves going to the Style Manager and then hitting edit. Creating an entirely new style is complicated. Andy Mangum Pastor First Christian Church, Arlington, Texas (817) 277-2634 -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of /> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:56 PM To: /> Subject: End Note Q's Greetings, My name is Bart Bruehler a Ph.D. student at Emory University, and this is my first time on the Endnote listserv. I am currently using Endnote on my dissertation with SBL (Society of Biblical Literature) style, which is not on the Endnote list but derived from Chicago 14a. I was led here by two specific questions. 1. The chapters of my dissertation are in separate files. The standards of SBL style require that if a source has been cited in a previous chapter the citation in the later chapter should be in short form. However, because each new chapter is a separate file, the first citation of any source is always given in full form, which I do not want if I have cited the full form in a previous chapter/file. Does anyone know how to force Endnote to use only the short form of a citation in a new file? 2. In some cases I need an entry to be capitalized in the bibliography but lowercase in the footnotes. For example, with a revised edition, I need "rev. ed." to follow the semicolon in the footnote, but "Rev. ed." to follow the period in the bibliography. Does anyone know how to set capitalization for this type of field? I have found capitalization settings for authors and titles but nothing else. Thank you for any assistance. Bart Bart B. Bruehler Office of University-Community Partnerships Fellow Graduate Division of Religion Office: 404-712-8139 Cell: 404-314-4715 ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: End Note Q's
Author:    Posted: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:03:12 -0400
--On 15 July 2005 15:58 -0400 wrote: > At some point, will you merge the chapters? I assume you will. When you > do this, the references will show up the way you want them. Not sure why > you have each chapter as a file. If you use headings and table of > contents in Word, you could work with your full dissertation in one > document... MS Word does not always work reliably with long and master documents - hence it's good advice to create each chapter separately and then combine them into one document down the line without using master and sub-docs. It's too much of a risk to take with a doctoral thesis. <http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/WhyMasterDocsCorrupt.htm> <http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/RecoverMasterDocs.htm> Duncan =================================================== Duncan Branley /> Research Applications Officer, Information Services Goldsmiths' College, University of London New Cross, LONDON SE14 6NW Tel: +44 (0)20 7919 7708 Fax: +44 (0)20 7919 7556 =================================================== ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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