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EN7's Palm-Comparison to Librarium/PocketCites?

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EN7's Palm-Comparison to Librarium/PocketCites?
Author: Tim Anderson    Posted: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:39:09 -0700
I've been using Endnote since the DOS days of 1993 and first transferred
libraries to a PDA back in 1996 so I am curious to find out more about EN7's
palm functionality. There isn't much else in 7 that I find compelling so I
am reluctant to download and install all of EN7 just to test this one
feature. After all, it is a bad sign that ISI doesn't seem to think it
warrants providing any details about the Palm functionality on their web
site.

I've investigate/tried both Librarium and PocketCites to carry around my
EndNote libraries on my Palm.

My general impression was that if you used just one EndNote Library then
Librarium was a good solution since the Palm app is tailored to EndNote
reference fields. Unfortunately it does not handle multiple libraries which
ruled it out for me.

Pocket Cites uses a heavy duty and robust palm database application (J-File)
so it is pretty strong but not tailored to show the different reference
fields for each reference type (ex. Secondary Author of an Edited Book
reference is labeled Editor).

Does anyone have experience with using the EN7 Palm integration? If so,
what were your impressions? If you've tried Pocket Cites or Librarium, how
do you think they compare?

Here are a few of the key criteria that I can think of:

PCite Lib. EN7
Yes No ? More than 1 library on handheld
No Yes ? Field labels reflect reference type
Yes Soon? ? Smooth use of memory card for extra storage
(I want to carry my abstracts for 1000s of refs so file could
be very big)
Yes Yes ? Requires extra step(s) outside of EndNote & Hotsync to
transfer library
Yes ? ? Selectable fields for transfer
(I want to leave out the notes field but include the abstract)
Yes ? ? General robustness, compatability with various versions of
PalmOS, stability, speed, etc.
(Mel's experience seems to say this is weak, what OS
version used?)
Yes Yes ? Can handle up to 32000 references per library
(i.e. limited by Endnote desktop database structure)

Links:
Librarium: http://www.pss.st/librarium.shtml
Pocket Cites: http://beam.to/woodenbrain

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Timothy R. Anderson, Ph.D.
PICMET '03 Program Chair
Associate Professor,
Department of Engineering and Technology Management
Portland State University
503 725-4668 fax: 503 725-4667
www.etm.pdx.edu www.picmet.org

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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:55:09 -0400
From: Mel Dubnick /> Subject: EN 7 -- Palm version issues

I just downloaded the ENDemo for 7, mainly to try out the Palm OS
capability (I don't see any other reason to upgrade).

Two issues, one a bug and the other a design issue.

1. I uploaded a library of about 7000 items to the Palm. It opens,
although the order of the entries makes no sense. But when I try to
either sort or to navigate quickly through the library, I ultimately get
a fata exception error and the OS freezes and crashes. I have to
reinstall library to avoid crashing immediately after reset.... Anyone
else having such problems?

2. Design issue: Why wouldn't the developers have included a find
function in the Palm version? Seems like a no brainer to me given the
nature of the program. Am I missing something here?

M. Dubnick



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EN7's Palm-Comparison to Librarium/PocketCites?
Author: Tim Anderson    Posted: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:32:18 -0700
Subject: Re: EN7's Palm-Comparison to Librarium/PocketCites?

Responding to Timothy Anderson's query:

PCite Lib. EN7
Yes No No More than 1 library on handheld
No Yes Yes Field labels reflect reference type
Yes Soon? ? Smooth use of memory card for extra storage
(I want to carry my abstracts for 1000s of refs
so file could be very big)
Yes Yes No Requires extra step(s) outside of EndNote & Hotsync
to transfer library
Yes ? No Selectable fields for transfer
(I want to leave out the notes field but include the
abstract)
Yes ? ? General robustness, compatability with various
versions of PalmOS, stability, speed, etc.
(Mel's experience seems to say this is weak,
what OS version used?)
Yes Yes ? Can handle up to 32000 references per library
(i.e. limited by Endnote desktop database structure)

I'm still using a beta version, so some features may have changed for
the production release. There may be problems with records with large
fields (e.g., abstracts), and I would be surprised if the EndNote for
Palm application will handle anywhere near 32,000 references. Sorting
is not terribly fast even with a small library. The largest library
that I have exported experimentally contained 874 records, and sorting
by author took approximately 100 seconds. This was on a Palm IIIxe
with 8 mb of memory; PalmOS 4.1 reports that this library occupies
1374K of memory.

Unfortunately, I have no experience with PocketCites or Librarium.

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