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Author: Martien Brand    Posted: 04/07/2000 15:46:54 GDT
L.S.,

I have changed the reference types of EndNote 4 to improve the processing of
references for the APA-style.

Now I would like to install these preferences on an other computer, but I
can not find the preference file.

Does anybody know where to look.

I'm working on a machine with Windows NT.

Martien Brand

RE: preferences
Author: Matt Boreland    Posted: 06/07/2000 02:23:20 GDT
Hi Martien,

EndNote 4 no longer has an explicit preferences file. All the preferences
are stored as user settings in the windows registry. This way each user who
logs on the computer can have their own set of user preferences. Whilst
useful for multiuser machines , it makes it difficult, as in your case, to
migrate those settings. So if you feel comfortable running around in the
registry (using regedit) then it can be done (i think), but it's not
documented in the EN manual how to do it or exactly where the preference
settings are. My guess is that it looks like you can find them in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/ISI ResearchSoft/Prefs (in Win2000), so if you
exported that to an ascii file and imported it into you new machine, it
might work. But remember, that the Registry is a good place to delete the
wrong thing and render your operating system as dopey or dead, so it best to
be sure of what you're doing...maybe ISI can supply the details. Of course
you need to be logged on with admistrator priviliges to do it, and the other
computer needs to be the same operating system.

Not exactly a a solution for the novice. I think I suggested to the EndNote
folks a while back that it would be nice to have utility (or a built in EN4
function) to allow exporting of preferences settings without the need for a
visit to into the registry, and to be multi-OS, ie allow migration from say
Win95/98 to Win2000 . Anyone second that motion? It's not an uncommon task
to move to a new computer, and given that the preferences also includes you
customised reference type settings, it's essential to have the preferences
to keep you references in decypherable order (BTW i still think that the
reference types should be part of the database, not the preference
settings...anyone second that...?).

Well i hope that helps a little.

regards matt

=====================================
Dr Matt Boreland
Toyota Technological Institute
Semiconductor Laboratory
2-12-1 Hisakata, Tempaku-ku
Nagoya, 468-8511, Japan
phone: +81-52-809-1877 fax: +81-52-809-1879
email:
=====================================


> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> Behalf Of Martien Brand
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 July 2000 11:47 PM
> To:
> Subject: preferences
>
>
<SNIP>

> I would like to install these preferences on an other computer, but I
> can not find the preference file.
>
> Does anybody know where to look.
>
> I'm working on a machine with Windows NT.
>

RE: preferences
Author: Ingvar Ericson    Posted: 07/07/2000 09:33:14 GDT
>Not exactly a a solution for the novice. I think I suggested to the EndNote
>folks a while back that it would be nice to have utility (or a built in EN4
>function) to allow exporting of preferences settings without the need for a
>visit to into the registry, and to be multi-OS, ie allow migration from say
>Win95/98 to Win2000 . Anyone second that motion? It's not an uncommon task
>to move to a new computer, and given that the preferences also includes you
>customised reference type settings, it's essential to have the preferences
>to keep you references in decypherable order (BTW i still think that the
>reference types should be part of the database, not the preference
>settings...anyone second that...?).

I second at least your first suggestion. Basically users should not
have to "mess around" with regedit, a powerful but dangerous program.
In fact Microsoft tech support recently told me that they do NOT
support problems caused by end users having "messed around" with
regedit on their own. So, there's got to be a more user friendly
solution.

For the benefit of those interested one of our customers called
yesterday with a problem he had to transfer his customized reference
types from EndNote 3 to EndNote 4. To be on the safe side he had
moved his EndNote 3 preferences from the Windows directory to a
"safe" place assuming he could put it back after having installed
EndNote 4. Didn't work that way! Here's the procedure he will now
have to go through according to the help we got from ISI ResearchSoft:

EndNote 4 stores its preferences in the Windows Registry instead of
the ENP file. However it reads the EndNote 3 preferences file and
tries to set itself up with the same preferences.

Since EndNote 4 has already been installed he must start by
un-installing it, and make certain the EndNote 4 preferences are not
in the registry. The preferences would be under
HK_CURRENT_USER...Software...ISI ResearchSoft...EndNote...Prefs.

Once the customer is certain the EndNote Prefs are not in the
Registry, he should make certain his special EndNote.ENP is in the
Windows folder and then re install EndNote. The installer should read
the EndNote.ENP and set up EndNote 4 with the same preferences.

There's got to be a more user friendly way to deal with situations like this.

Best regards

Ingvar Ericson

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Preferences
Author: Michael E Smith    Posted: 07/07/2000 14:05:43 GDT
I second Matt Borland's suggestion that we need a better way
to transfer preferences among machines and users. Fiddle
with the registry for this?? No thanks! This is a case where
version 4 took a major step in the wrong direction.

Michael E. Smith, Professor
Department of Anthropology, SS-263
University at Albany, SUNY
1400 Washington Ave
Albany, NY 12222
Home Page: http://www.albany.edu/~mesmith/
tel: 518-442-4709
fax: 518-442-5710

RE: Preferences
Author: Matt Boreland    Posted: 08/07/2000 01:46:24 GDT
If the reference types were part of the EndNote library file, it wouldn't be
such a drama. The reference types are the most difficult to re-enter by
hand, whereas the others are largely just "tick-a-box" choices (I actually
use the defaults for most of them). When you get down to it, the reference
types are really more like data than preferences. It'd also make it easier
for sending a library to someone else to look at if the reference types were
bulit in (also good if you could overwrite the reference types to change
them when swapping libraries).

I actually think that preferences in the registry is not a bad idea, it just
that EN lacks the necessary utilities for moving them around between
machines.

Matt

=====================================
Dr Matt Boreland
Toyota Technological Institute
Semiconductor Laboratory
2-12-1 Hisakata, Tempaku-ku
Nagoya, 468-8511, Japan
phone: +81-52-809-1877 fax: +81-52-809-1879
email:
=====================================


> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> Behalf Of Michael E Smith
> Sent: Friday, 7 July 2000 10:06 PM
> To:
> Subject: Preferences
>
>
>
> I second Matt Borland's suggestion that we need a better way
> to transfer preferences among machines and users. Fiddle
> with the registry for this?? No thanks! This is a case where
> version 4 took a major step in the wrong direction.
>
> Michael E. Smith, Professor
> Department of Anthropology, SS-263
> University at Albany, SUNY
> 1400 Washington Ave
> Albany, NY 12222
> Home Page: http://www.albany.edu/~mesmith/
> tel: 518-442-4709
> fax: 518-442-5710
>
>
>

RE: Preferences
Author: Albert B Collver, III    Posted: 08/07/2000 14:18:50 GDT
Hello,

Regarding the Endnotes preferences; while I have not had the need to migrate
my settings from one machine to another, I do have a suggestion. MS recently
developed a utility called Save My Settings Wizard for MS Office 2000. This
utility would save all the user settings and then upload them to a website.
A user could then go to another machine and transfer his settings via the
Internet. While I am not suggesting the ISI set up a web site to do this, if
it is not too difficulty perhaps they could develop a utility that would
automatically extract the settings from the registry and then put them on
disk. A user could then have Endnotes read the preference file and then put
them back in the registry. I am imagine the next thing that would be wanted
would be a way to synchronize the settings...

Personally, I would rather see a version of Endnotes that ran on a Windows
CE, Pocket PC, and Palm OS computer and then synchronize with the main
Endnotes program.

Albert B. Collver, III

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