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Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 07:25:52 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: Leanne (Mentor) Date: 01-12-2011 03:25 PM Did your library get "disconnected" from your .DATA folder (relocated/moved without moving the whole of the DATA folder and contents)?  If so, can you find the old one, because you can recover the library from there.  I am not sure quit how EndnoteX3 resonds if it doesn't find a .DATA file.  I thought it would open, but it might recreate an empty .DATA folder which is where all attachment folders and group information is stored.

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:48:54 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: lnewstea (New User) Date: 01-13-2011 12:48 AM Hi Leanna,   Thanks so much for responding.   Im not quite sure what these .DATA files are? I've had a look with my computer's search function and haven't managed to find any. Will keep looking!   Any other ideas??   Thanks again

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:39:52 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: Leanne (Mentor) Date: 01-13-2011 03:39 AM Should have said a .DATA folder with the same name as the library itself.  i.e. if you have a <libraryname>. enl there will  be a <libraryname>.DATA with subfolders.  An essential part of the library.

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:55:54 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: lnewstea (New User) Date: 01-13-2011 08:55 AM Hi,   Thanks again. Ok that makes sense. I've searched through my computer and can't find any DATA files. Is it possible these were deleted? and if so, how could I recover them?   I've checked through my recycle bin too...

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:40:02 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: Leanne (Mentor) Date: 01-13-2011 05:39 PM Not unless you backed them up.... sorry.  No magical cure. there is a magical cure if you lose the .enl file, but have library.DATA folder and contents, but not the reverse.  Important file names that would have been in the library.DATA folder's rdb folder, would have names ending in .frm, .myd and .opt, but if they aren't in a folder, and have ended up as stand alone files, I am not sure how you would reconstruct the structure of the folders to recover that info.  If you found them, Tech support might be able to help?  But I think you are going to need to reconstruct your groups, or readd the missing references from your back up.  I suppose you could try to put your current .enl with a copy of the backed up library.DATA folder, but I wouldn't bet the family farm.  obviously , you would want to use copies for expts like that.   In future use the File>compressed library command to back up and/or move any library- and move the .enlx and open it in its new home, and the folder structure will be magically restored.

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone too !!!! HELP" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:51:42 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone too !!!! HELP Author: amiekina (Visitor) Date: 01-17-2011 10:51 AM I'd like to add that system is Vista. Is it possible that this is result of an update of Vista? Authors and Journal Term lists have gone too. All my library files are in one subdirectory. PozdrawiAM

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone too !!!! HELP" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:40:42 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone too !!!! HELP Author: Leanne (Mentor) Date: 01-18-2011 05:40 PM It is unlikely it is due to an update of vista, unless you were updating from XP and you are saving your library in a folder that you know longer have write access to (say a folder in Program Folders).  Please also note that if you try to open a library that has no .DATA folder, Endnote may try to crate a new one, so those folders may not be the originals with the group information.  I don't think you can rescue just one of those files to restore your groups.    What do you mean - they change modification date?  They probably get updated when ever you open the library.  -- how did you back up the library? via the compression to an enlx?  then when you unpack it, the files might also get the new date stamp.    I would call Tech support if none of this helps.  It is extremely difficult to trouble shoot this kind of problem without a continuous dialog including the questions above and resulting questions, once those answers are received.

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone too !!!! HELP" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:32:12 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone too !!!! HELP Author: amiekina (User) Date: 01-19-2011 02:32 PM Leanne, thanks. I know that library is libname.enl and libname.DATA folder and always tried to use as a one. I'm not sure what happend. I synchronized library on two computers - simply copied files from one to another and I saw on both computers my groups. After 2 weeks groups have gone.   I wrote to tech support and received an answer:   If you only work with the .enl file, EndNote has to attempt to rebuild the library which can fail if there are errors in the .enl file or there is data not available. You will also loose any groups or file attachments for the library if this happens. Interesting is that I loose groups, lists of authors and journals but file attachments (more than 3400) are stil working (that would be a great loos). Recovering of library from .DATA to empty .enl doesn't work - it means .DATA is not good, but why, what was my mistake. Where is an information about groups - in .enl or in .DATA. I think you have more powerfull tool to look inside tha data and recover my groups, but I started recover them by hand - it was only about 1000.   I'd like to won't repeat my mistake. What is a tool to synchronize library on two computers - I didn't find any in manual (not web solution). Is it possible to synchronize library if on one computer existing reference were changed and on the second the new reference were add ? Regards PozdrawiAM -

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone too !!!! HELP" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:32:32 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone too !!!! HELP Author: Leanne (Mentor) Date: 01-19-2011 04:32 PM PozdrawiAM,     I am not sure how you synchronize, but you would need to ensure that the synchronization included not just the .enl file but the whole structure of the library including the .DATA folder and subfolders.  The best way to  keep the two computers in "synch" would be to first compress the library from endnote (FILE>Compress), which creates a file which in your case would be called libname.enlx and then move that and unpack it  (open it in Endnote, which will automatically unpack it) in the new location.  It gets complicated if that is in a location where the an old version is - as it needs to overwrite the libname.enl and libname.DATA folder and contents.    Do you really need to update the library in both locations?  - or just in one?  If in both, you need to do the above.  However, I only ever update my library in one location.  If I want to add a new ref working on the laptop, I wait until I am on my desktop (where I have the best access anyway for retrieving the PDFs).  Inserting a "temporary version" - in say, square brackets.  That way, I never need to update the desktop, and don't take the chance of it getting partially overwritten or accidentally overwritten by an older version.  Sometimes I will make a mini-library on the laptop and then import that into my main library, rather than moving the whole thing back.  So I might move the desktop to the laptop, but never the other way around.  I also regularly back up the .enlx file.  amiekina wrote:   I'd like to won't repeat my mistake. What is a tool to synchronize library on two computers - I didn't find any in manual (not web solution). Is it possible to synchronize library if on one computer existing reference were changed and on the second the new reference were add ?

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:08:02 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: lnewstea (Visitor) Date: 01-20-2011 02:07 AM Hi Leanne,   I really appreciate your responding to this.   Hmmm.. seems to be a bit of a problem. Might have to email tech support too. I'm just not sure how this actually happened in the first place - which makes me nervous about what might happen in the future!   I did save a back up (as I mentioned, a while ago) and did it via the File->compression as you suggested. I don't remember moving around files either? And haven't emptied out my recycle bin since before I got endnote, so it's really strange that I can't even find these .DATA files. Do you think it would be worth backing up what I've got now and do an uninstall/reinstall of Endnote??   Many Thanks - Laura

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:30:22 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: Leanne (Mentor) Date: 01-20-2011 03:30 AM I don't think uninstall reinstall will make any difference. I have never had anything like this happen.  So I can't really explain why it has happened in your case.  Contnue to back things up and perhaps try to "recover library".  That is all I can think of.

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:35:42 -0800
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: Leanne (Mentor) Date: 01-20-2011 03:35 AM Oh yeah, when you delete files, you lose the "folder" name, and are left with the files.  so those files in the folder would have obscure names like csort.frm and csort.MYD.

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:07:32 -0700
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: cgwilliamson (New User) Date: 07-29-2011 01:07 AM Hi - I'm a big Endnote fan, and cannot imagine doing my PhD thesis without it. However, I've got exactly the same problem with my groups, which have all turned up tonight with a (0). I am very happy that I still have the nearly 1700 references that I've collected over the past four years.   The folder with the data has not been moved, although I do have it connected to an external hard-drive that goes to sleep after a period of inactivity - that slowed things down on Windows XP, but I've never had this same problem before, very strange. It's not a blocking issue for me, although a bit annoying, and I would like to prevent it from happening again - any other thoughts about the problem? [I'm using Endnote X3 on a Windows 7 platform]   Thanks! Christina

Thomson Reuters:"Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3" - 1 New Post - Community Subscription
Author: Community Mailer    Posted: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:15:32 -0700
Subject: Re: My Groups have gone! Endnote X3 Author: ellell (Regular) Date: 07-29-2011 01:15 AM If you go to EndNote's menu and choose Groups, is there a Show Groups choice? If so select it and your groups should come back.

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