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EndNote 8.0.2 now available
Author:    Posted: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:12:58 -0500
The second (and final) patch for the Windows version of EndNote 8 has now been released as EndNote 8.0.2. As I write, it is not yet available for download from the EndNote website, but those who have installed version 8 can access it by clicking on Help>EndNote Program Updates. (Make sure that your Internet connection is open before doing so.) Many people have been asking: "Should we upgrade to EndNote 8?" There are three classes of EndNote users who need EndNote 8: 1. Macintosh users who have installed Word 2004. Word 2004 will not work with earlier versions of EndNote. 2. Users who need Unicode characters for Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Greek, etc. 3. Those who wish to use EndNote with certain handheld devices. EndNote 8 works with a wider range of handheld devices than previous versions. For other users, there are few benefits in upgrading. A description of all the new features in EndNote 8 is given on our website at: http://www.library.uq.edu.au/endnote/new_in_endnote8.html The new reference types and reference fields are of limited use, as the output styles are not configured to format them. Some of the new reference types seem poorly designed, and some of the new reference fields do not work properly. There are still some remaining bugs. We have listed the major ones that we know of on the webpage mentioned above. Most users can probably live with those bugs, but there is a very significant bug for people who use footnote styles with the RTF Document Scan function. The disadvantage of upgrading is that EndNote 8 is not backwardly compatible with earlier versions. So users who collaborate with other researchers in the writing of papers cannot upgrade unless all their collaborators are also upgrading. Of course, EndNote 9 will not be compatible with EndNote 7 and earlier versions either. EndNote 8.0.2 seems to be a useable piece of software. But users still have to ask themselves if there is any benefit to be gained in upgrading. John East University of Queensland Library Email: "john.east" ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: EndNote 8.0.2 now available
Author:    Posted: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:30:08 -0500
Dear John, I want to thank you for sharing your EndNote results with us. Phenomenal job. I have one question that's not specifically addressed in your "What's new" page, and perhaps you haven't tested it. Can modified reference types now be shared across platforms (Windows <-> Mac) via the RefTypesTable.xml file? Clearly they can be copied from Windows machine to Windows machine, but can they make that big jump? Many thanks, Eric ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: EndNote 8.0.2 now available
Author:    Posted: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:04:10 -0500
John, Thanks for the update about the Endnote 8.0.2 patch. I've been lurking on this board lately, awaiting word about the availability of the patch and whether the problems that have been well documented here have been solved, with no new problems arising. I look forward to hearing the reports of you and other brave souls in the coming weeks. I have spoken with our research librarian who works actively with the program and is responsible for Endnote training. Endnote 8 is already installed on a number of lab computers. It works on some machines but not others, and she has experienced some of the problems that have been reported here. Her plan is to roll out Endnote 8 formally once it's ready for prime time. The idea, as you know, is that everybody who is using Endnote as part of research or educational team must to move to version 8 together. There's no way that anyone I work with will even consider version 8 until the bugs have been resolved. One they are, there will probably be a mass migration. The librarian believes that at least some of the problems with version 8 have to do with incompatibilities with previous versions of Endnote and perhaps with other software. I am interested in hearing from those who haven't experienced problems with Endnote 8 whether they uninstalled the previous version first, whether the uninstall included clearing the registry, and whether they installed on a pristine operating system. Thanks for your effort in beta testing the second version 8 patch and in reporting its status and availability. Paul The second (and final) patch for the Windows version of EndNote 8 has now been released as EndNote 8.0.2. As I write, it is not yet available for download from the EndNote website, but those who have installed version 8 can access it by clicking on Help>EndNote Program Updates. (Make sure that your Internet connection is open before doing so.) Many people have been asking: "Should we upgrade to EndNote 8?" There are three classes of EndNote users who need EndNote 8: 1. Macintosh users who have installed Word 2004. Word 2004 will not work with earlier versions of EndNote. 2. Users who need Unicode characters for Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Greek, etc. 3. Those who wish to use EndNote with certain handheld devices. EndNote 8 works with a wider range of handheld devices than previous versions. For other users, there are few benefits in upgrading. A description of all the new features in EndNote 8 is given on our website at: http://www.library.uq.edu.au/endnote/new_in_endnote8.html The new reference types and reference fields are of limited use, as the output styles are not configured to format them. Some of the new reference types seem poorly designed, and some of the new reference fields do not work properly. There are still some remaining bugs. We have listed the major ones that we know of on the webpage mentioned above. Most users can probably live with those bugs, but there is a very significant bug for people who use footnote styles with the RTF Document Scan function. The disadvantage of upgrading is that EndNote 8 is not backwardly compatible with earlier versions. So users who collaborate with other researchers in the writing of papers cannot upgrade unless all their collaborators are also upgrading. Of course, EndNote 9 will not be compatible with EndNote 7 and earlier versions either. EndNote 8.0.2 seems to be a useable piece of software. But users still have to ask themselves if there is any benefit to be gained in upgrading. John East University of Queensland Library Email: "john.east" ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:08:28 -0500 (EST) From: Gijs.Kessler "mailto:gke" Subject: Re: notetaking programs I also use FMPro for this purpose, but have lately become interested in a free-form database application called DevonThink, which seems ideal for the purpose, but haven't had the time yet to experiment with it: ( http://www.devon-technologies.com/products/devonthink/overview.php ) Mac Only. Gijs Kessler International Institute of Social History Amsterdam, The Netherlands On 14 Jan 2005, at 21:23, Marc.Bizer "mailto:mbizer" wrote: On 1/14/05 at 2:00 AM -0500, endnote-interest-digest wrote: When we do research don't we want to capture quotations from the source document along with the bibliographic markers? I tend to read a lot when I research and I'd like to have a way to capture actual text passages, key ideas, my thoughts on how this passage connects to concepts from other sources, etc. Then I'd like to be able to search through all of this with keywords and sometimes full text search on whatever quotation or passage I've scanned or typed into the knowledgebase. It's a definite need, but I don't think EndNote is really designed for this -- or perhaps I should say that I don't think that EndNote works really well this way. For years I've experimented with different systems for taking notes. Initially, I used FileMaker Pro and cross-referenced (relationally) notes with the bibliography. The advantage of FM Pro is that you can set up fields for any keywords that you like, and searching is fast and precise. Lately, I have been trying a Macintosh program called "Hog Bay Notebook" ("Notelens" for Windows users). It's more free-form for notetaking, but it also allows one to reorganize notes (it's also an outliner), clone them (you can have the same note in two different places in an outline), and searching is fast but not as precise. I believe that there are other programs as well. Please share any information that you might have. --Marc ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:07:42 -0500 (EST) From: Rory.Rosszell "mailto:h-rossze" Subject: Using Endnote to catalogue paper copies of journal articles I would very much appreciate hearing from those who have devised an efficient way to catalogue your accumulated journal articles. I would like to devise a simple numbering/lettering system which will enable me to label and organize my articles (of which I have hundreds), and to then be able to use Endnote as an index to help me to quickly locate articles in my files when I need to refer to them. I thank you in advance for your trouble and look forward to your clever suggestions. Regards, Rory Rosszell Rory Rosszell Sophia University Department of English Language and Studies 7-1 Kioi-cho, Chiyoda-ku Tokyo 102-8554 Japan E-mail: "h-rossze" Phone: 81-3-3238-3766 ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:08:51 -0500 (EST) From: Scott.Garrison "mailto:garrison" Subject: 8.0.2 Patch? I've seen the 8.0.2 patch mentioned here. There's no documentation of it on the website. It now seems to be available through the internal updater engine. (You can even download it and install it over and over apparently.) Does anybody know what issues are addressed by this patch? - ---------------------------------------------- Scott Garrison "garrison" ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:25:34 -0500 (EST) From: Jim.Franzen "mailto:Jim.Franzen" Subject: Endnote as research repository - results of limited pilot Thanks for the many replies I received to my original query. I've been looking at a lot of software over the break but now the semester begins again. I've worked with trial versions of Endnote, Procite, RefManager, Biblioscape, NoteLens, Scholar's Aid, and other software packages. Endnote does the best job of Z39.50 retrieval of full bibliographic data and formatting that data for inclusion in your MS Word documents. But Endnote is a source-centric application; it handles citation identifiers but not the content of the citation. Many of us work around quotations, key passages from a source, or concepts or notes that are not attached to a article or book source. I need an application that will capture both types of these snippets, provide easy data entry, allow categorization and retrieval by keyword and subject, and house the citation identifiers that connect these short passages to their source. Endnote is not designed for this purpose. Scholar's Aid and Knoesis both offer software that provide this functionality. After entering a test suite of data into both packages, I've decided to use Knoesis index card lite www.knoesis.com for tracking all my quotations, notes, my own papers, etc. It is quick and easy to use, and it is inexpensive. It allows me to enter many notecards for passages or notes from any one source. I simply enter a short citation in the source record in Knoesis, just enough so that I can identify the source for a later Endnote search. When I write something later I'll use Endnote for the actual citations and bibliography, but only for the sources I actually use in a paper. Endnote will let me retrieve full bibliographical data through Z39.50. So most of my time will be spent in Knoesis, and I'll use Endnote for the final touches on papers. After running a pilot on this combination of software I believe it will be the best total solution, at least for my particular work needs. Thanks again for all the replies, I hope our thread is of some value to future queries to this listserv. Jim ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:24:41 -0500 (EST) From: Siegfried.Wiedenhofer "mailto:wiedenhofer" Subject: EndNote I can import neither records nor entire databases from ProCite 5.0 Mac to EndNote 8.0 Mac. Whatever I do it is without any success. The manual is not very helpful. Who can help? Thank you, S. Wiedenhofer Prof. Dr. Siegfried Wiedenhofer Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität Fachbereich Katholische Theologie Grüneburgplatz 1 60629 Frankfurt a.M. (Pakete: 60323 Frankfurt a.M.) Tel. 069/798-33325 oder 798-33348 Fax 069/798-33354 E-Mail "wiedenhofer" ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:21:05 -0500 (EST) From: C.Morris "mailto:cjmorris" Subject: Re: Using Endnote to catalogue paper copies of journal articles Here is what I do, assuming you mean "catalogue electronic copies of journal articles" instead of "paper copies": - -always save a pdf file as the author's last name followed by year, such as "smith04.pdf." Multiple papers by the same author name for a given year? Append a, b, c, etc. to the filename. Put all these files in a single folder (or group of subfolders). - -I actually use jabref (jabref.sourceforge.net) instead of Endnote to be able to quickly retrive a particular article. It's a freely available java application that imports bibliographic information from a variety of types (including refer/endnote), and has a nice icon displayed if you have the pdf file locally. A single click from the main window opens the file in Acrobat. By appropriately setting up, the links to pdf files can be generated automatically. I must confess I am a former LaTeX/BibTeX user who has migrated to Endnote in order to be compatible with current collegues, so my usage of Endnote is a bit unconventional. I use jabref (which is really a BibTeX viewer) as my master repository of bibliographic information, notes, links to pdf files, urls, etc. And I continue to use it primarily because of the easy retrival of pdf files. Then I regularly export the information (or subsets of it) to Endnote to use citations in MS Word. Chris Morris University of Washington Seattle, WA USA On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 "h-rossze" wrote: > I would very much appreciate hearing from those who have devised an > efficient way to catalogue your accumulated journal articles. > > I would like to devise a simple numbering/lettering system which will > enable me to label and organize my articles (of which I have hundreds), > and to then be able to use Endnote as an index to help me to quickly > locate articles in my files when I need to refer to them. > > I thank you in advance for your trouble and look forward to your clever > suggestions. > > Regards, > > Rory Rosszell > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:36:02 -0500 (EST) From: Spaak.Piet "mailto:Piet.Spaak" Subject: RE: Import from Procite The EndNote readme file for the 8.02 patch says: "* Reference Manager and Procite databases cannot be opened in EndNote. Please export the database from Reference Manager or Procite using the RIS format and import into an EndNote library." This might be also true for the EndNote 8.0 Mac version. Piet Spaak - -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "wiedenhofer" Sent: Mittwoch, 19. Januar 2005 14:25 To: "Endnote-Interest" Subject: EndNote I can import neither records nor entire databases from ProCite 5.0 Mac to EndNote 8.0 Mac. Whatever I do it is without any success. The manual is not very helpful. Who can help? Thank you, S. Wiedenhofer Prof. Dr. Siegfried Wiedenhofer Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität Fachbereich Katholische Theologie Grüneburgplatz 1 60629 Frankfurt a.M. (Pakete: 60323 Frankfurt a.M.) Tel. 069/798-33325 oder 798-33348 Fax 069/798-33354 E-Mail "wiedenhofer" ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:39:23 -0500 (EST) From: Julie.Solomon "mailto:julie.solomon" Subject: Re: Using Endnote to catalogue paper copies of journal articles I use an extremely simple system but it works well for me: I just file my articles by author. I write the author's name on the label of a manilla folder. More often than not, I keep all articles by a particular author in the same folder. I have occasionally created two or three folders for an author for whom I have a large number of articles (more than five or six). In endnote, I use put "copy on file" in the notes field. (In the same way, i use the notes field to mention if I have ms notes on file but no photocopy, or if it's available online etc.) And of course, I use keywords to enhance chances of finding references in a search-- including some personalised ones, beyond those that download from databases. I believe some researchers file their articles by a sort of accession number. The advantage is that you don't have to move them when your collection expands to need a new drawer. Mine still squeezes into two filing cabinet drawers. Soon, I'll have to re-divide the alphabet and shuffle armfuls to a third drawer, but I don't think this is too onerous, comared with the advantages of my "intuitive" alphabetical files. If I know, or think, I have something, I go straight to the drawer without having to check in endnote. I'll be interested to hear about other solutions. Julie Solomon Romance Languages Tufts University Medford MA 02155 USA On Jan 19, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Rory.Rosszell "mailto:h-rossze" wrote: > I would very much appreciate hearing from those who have devised an > efficient way to catalogue your accumulated journal articles. > > I would like to devise a simple numbering/lettering system which will > enable me to label and organize my articles (of which I have > hundreds), and to then be able to use Endnote as an index to help me > to quickly locate articles in my files when I need to refer to them. > > I thank you in advance for your trouble and look forward to your > clever suggestions. > > Regards, > > Rory Rosszell > > > Rory Rosszell > Sophia University > Department of English Language and Studies > 7-1 Kioi-cho, Chiyoda-ku > Tokyo 102-8554 > Japan > E-mail: "h-rossze" > Phone: 81-3-3238-3766 > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:40:20 -0500 (EST) From: Wiedemann, Leanne "mailto:lmw" Subject: RE: Using Endnote to catalogue paper copies of journal articles I (foolishly some say) just use the endnote generated record number and sort my papers by number (backward) into my files. Someday, I may regret it, but since 1991 or thereabouts, when I started using endnote, it has worked for me. I used to separate them as well into two major topics (figuring I was smart enough to figure out in which topic, the one I was looking for would be likely to be in), but gave that up and have now combined them. I rarely keep paper copies anymore, unless I have added notes and such to the hard copy. Even papers I haven't been able to get an electronic source for, I now scan to pdf and keep in my electronically linked pdf .data library file. I keep the old files though. Can't be bothered to scan them all! Finally, there has been extensive discussion of this - in the archives. If these links don't work, try searching "filing" in the endnote archive. http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/endnote/endnote_Feb_2003/shid_cb9543bb36 b4d17386192c6e5da8da0b.html (similar to above) And some from the people who think I am foolish. http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/endnote/Mar_2002/shid_87337c1f7419285bea 6f1ae114c5fca6.html http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/endnote/endnote_Feb_2002/thid_5f43835c94 98c0022151adc4bf5a905c.html Leanne - -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" Using Endnote to catalogue paper copies of journal articles I would very much appreciate hearing from those who have devised an efficient way to catalogue your accumulated journal articles. I would like to devise a simple numbering/lettering system which will enable me to label and organize my articles (of which I have hundreds), and to then be able to use Endnote as an index to help me to quickly locate articles in my files when I need to refer to them. I thank you in advance for your trouble and look forward to your clever suggestions. Regards, Rory Rosszell ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:40:30 -0500 (EST) From: Wiedemann, Leanne "mailto:lmw" Subject: PDF accessibility John, I am not sure I understand the "link to PDF" bug. Does this mean that if I upgraded, the links in the "image" field are no longer usable? That would be reason enough for me to NEVER upgrade. Leanne - -----Original Message----- From: john.east Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:13 PM For other users, there are few benefits in upgrading. A description of all the new features (and remaining bugs) in EndNote 8 is given on our website at: http://www.library.uq.edu.au/endnote/new_in_endnote8.html ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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RE: EndNote 8.0.2 now available
Author:    Posted: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:18:30 -0500
> Can modified reference types now be shared across platforms > (Windows <-> Mac) via the RefTypesTable.xml file? Clearly > they can be copied from Windows machine to Windows machine, > but can they make that big jump? Sender: "listmaster" Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "endnote-interest" That's a very good question. Sorry, but I haven't been able to test it. Perhaps one of the Mac users of EndNote 8 could tell us if they have an XML file called "RefTypesTable" on their system. It is a plain text file, so in theory could be used by Mac or PC, but one would need to test it. John East University of Queensland Library Email: "john.east" ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: Endnote 8.0.2 now available
Author:    Posted: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:31:11 -0500
Below is the list of problem areas addressed by the 8.0.2 patch (according to the README file): * Ambiguous citations * Mouse scroll wheel functionality in Reference window * Preview and Library window preferences are remembered after each session * Performance improvements when importing, exporting, and converting libraries * Multiple citations format in RTF Document Scan * Journal Name abbreviations * Change Case settings I'm running 8.0.2 on a WinXP machine, and it has fixed several problems I had in 8.0.1. * The scroll wheel now works in navigating the library window, where before it was a dead duck. * The last position of all windows is now retained between sessions. * Before, a problem with "change case settings" made the program hang when refommating Word documents; it no longer does so. I have noticed one interface problem that still isn't fixed: user preferences on which toolbars to display are discarded, so you have to futz with your workspace every session. Ugh. Some other miscellaneous notes: * In response a previous question, I can testify that the "Image" field works properly when storing PDF files. * There has been a big improvement in the documentation of the editing codes for document styles; it's a clear explanation of how dependencies work, and how the "forced separation" and "link adjacent text" characters modify it. This remains, IMHO, an archaic, clumsy, counter-intuitive system of limited functionality, and one that discourages many users from utilizing even those limited functions. But at least there's an explanation now. -- Peter Logan English Department 1114 W. Berks Street Temple University Philadelphia, PA 19122-6090 "peter.logan" 215 204-8567 ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: EndNote 8.0.2 now available
Author:    Posted: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:43:34 -0500
One of the major irritations with En.8.0.0 and 8.0.1 was that there were some severe downsides for one of its target audiences. John East hit the nail on the head when he wrote, ... > There are three classes of EndNote users who need EndNote 8: ... > 2. Users who need Unicode characters for Chinese, Japanese, Russian, > Greek, etc. but using Unicode characters in en.8 caused punctuation in the ASCII extended range (128-255) to go haywire: en- and em-dashes turned to control codes; "smart quotes" turned to Japanese Katakana. Also, not all Unicode characters came across properly (if at all, sometimes) when using the "copy formatted" (ctrl+K) command; some came as numbers, for example. I am VERY pleased to note that both problems seem to have been addressed in the 8.0.2 patch, even though there is no mention of it in the release notes. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: EndNote 8.0.2 now available
Author:    Posted: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:03:50 -0500 (
John We are adding some advice to EndNote users re version 8 - I wonder if you would mind us putting a link to your webpages of advice on our webpages. I am asking because I found that your message to the list on 19 Jan was the clearest I had seen on the need and disadvantages on upgrading. Helen -----Original Message----- From: "john.east" [mailto: "john.east" Sent: 19 January 2005 19:13 To: "Endnote-Interest" Subject: EndNote 8.0.2 now available The second (and final) patch for the Windows version of EndNote 8 has now been released as EndNote 8.0.2. As I write, it is not yet available for download from the EndNote website, but those who have installed version 8 can access it by clicking on Help>EndNote Program Updates. (Make sure that your Internet connection is open before doing so.) Many people have been asking: "Should we upgrade to EndNote 8?" There are three classes of EndNote users who need EndNote 8: 1. Macintosh users who have installed Word 2004. Word 2004 will not work with earlier versions of EndNote. 2. Users who need Unicode characters for Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Greek, etc. 3. Those who wish to use EndNote with certain handheld devices. EndNote 8 works with a wider range of handheld devices than previous versions. For other users, there are few benefits in upgrading. A description of all the new features in EndNote 8 is given on our website at: http://www.library.uq.edu.au/endnote/new_in_endnote8.html The new reference types and reference fields are of limited use, as the output styles are not configured to format them. Some of the new reference types seem poorly designed, and some of the new reference fields do not work properly. There are still some remaining bugs. We have listed the major ones that we know of on the webpage mentioned above. Most users can probably live with those bugs, but there is a very significant bug for people who use footnote styles with the RTF Document Scan function. The disadvantage of upgrading is that EndNote 8 is not backwardly compatible with earlier versions. So users who collaborate with other researchers in the writing of papers cannot upgrade unless all their collaborators are also upgrading. Of course, EndNote 9 will not be compatible with EndNote 7 and earlier versions either. EndNote 8.0.2 seems to be a useable piece of software. But users still have to ask themselves if there is any benefit to be gained in upgrading. John East University of Queensland Library Email: "john.east" ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: EndNote 8.0.2 now available
Author:    Posted: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:04:16 -0500 (
Apologies to the list - I meant to send my previous message to John East - which I will now do! -----Original Message----- From: "john.east" [mailto: "john.east" Sent: 19 January 2005 19:13 To: "Endnote-Interest" Subject: EndNote 8.0.2 now available The second (and final) patch for the Windows version of EndNote 8 has now been released as EndNote 8.0.2. As I write, it is not yet available for download from the EndNote website, but those who have installed version 8 can access it by clicking on Help>EndNote Program Updates. (Make sure that your Internet connection is open before doing so.) Many people have been asking: "Should we upgrade to EndNote 8?" There are three classes of EndNote users who need EndNote 8: 1. Macintosh users who have installed Word 2004. Word 2004 will not work with earlier versions of EndNote. 2. Users who need Unicode characters for Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Greek, etc. 3. Those who wish to use EndNote with certain handheld devices. EndNote 8 works with a wider range of handheld devices than previous versions. For other users, there are few benefits in upgrading. A description of all the new features in EndNote 8 is given on our website at: http://www.library.uq.edu.au/endnote/new_in_endnote8.html The new reference types and reference fields are of limited use, as the output styles are not configured to format them. Some of the new reference types seem poorly designed, and some of the new reference fields do not work properly. There are still some remaining bugs. We have listed the major ones that we know of on the webpage mentioned above. Most users can probably live with those bugs, but there is a very significant bug for people who use footnote styles with the RTF Document Scan function. The disadvantage of upgrading is that EndNote 8 is not backwardly compatible with earlier versions. So users who collaborate with other researchers in the writing of papers cannot upgrade unless all their collaborators are also upgrading. Of course, EndNote 9 will not be compatible with EndNote 7 and earlier versions either. EndNote 8.0.2 seems to be a useable piece of software. But users still have to ask themselves if there is any benefit to be gained in upgrading. John East University of Queensland Library Email: "john.east" ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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