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Author:    Posted: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:34:39 -0500
I am using Cited Pages in the middle of a reference, as a page number reference is required between two parts of the reference. I would like to be able to include , 56; rather than just 56 but the Cited Pages feature doesn't seem to recognise anything but the number. It won't even permit 56-7. Does anyone know why it won't allow me to put the punctuation and spaces in with the page number, or if there is any way around this problem? I can include the punctuation in the output style, but it is not suitable, as it causes complications elsewhere. best wishes, Sandy -- Sandra Meredith IT Training and Development Officer Law Faculty University of Oxford phone 01865 271499 (direct)

RE: cited pages
Author:    Posted: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:34:52 -0500 (
> I am using Cited Pages in the middle of a reference, as a > page number reference is required between two parts of the > reference. I would like to be able to include , 56; rather > than just 56 but the Cited Pages feature doesn't seem to > recognise anything but the number. It won't even permit 56-7. My understanding is that the punctuation used before the Cited Pages is always supplied by the output style, although you can add extra punctuation within the Cited Pages (e.g. 4:323). The reason why you can't have a range of pages is probably because the "Page Numbers" section of the output style is set to "Show only first page". This setting governs the cited pages also, if I remember correctly. John East University of Queensland Library Email: />

RE: cited pages
Author:    Posted: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:34:22 -0500 (
Sandy, I can't replicate your problem, so I'm not sure I'm clear what you're trying to do. I can get <comma><space>pagenumber<dash>pagenumber to format properly. I could understand problems with punctuation, but not allowing a page-range is just plain weird. So I have some questions: - are you using in-text or footnote citations, and if the latter, are they set up as a separate format from your in-text citations? - when you say "in the middle of a reference", do you mean in between two citations that are grouped together? Or is it something else, and if so what? - would the "complications elsewhere" be avoided if you use the right combination of forced separation and link-adjacent characters in the output style? (Though this still doesn't allow you to put in ranges). As a general note, I find that non-standard punctuation characters are generally left untouched by endnote; hence, if you *really* want an extra space, you can put in a hair-space (200a) or a punctuation-space (2008) or even a six-per-em-space (2006). If you *really* want a semicolon, try a Greek question-mark (037e). For a dash, try a figure dash (2012; this may help with your page-range issue, as en. may format the whole series of characters as one string of text). (The pdfs on the Unicode consortium website note *equivalent* glyphs). Of course, this depends on a) using a font with the appropriate Unicode glyphs, and b) using a version of endnote which can handle Unicode (i.e., 8 or later). Michael -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of /> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:35 AM To: /> Subject: cited pages I am using Cited Pages in the middle of a reference, as a page number reference is required between two parts of the reference. I would like to be able to include , 56; rather than just 56 but the Cited Pages feature doesn't seem to recognise anything but the number. It won't even permit 56-7. Does anyone know why it won't allow me to put the punctuation and spaces in with the page number, or if there is any way around this problem? I can include the punctuation in the output style, but it is not suitable, as it causes complications elsewhere. best wishes, Sandy -- Sandra Meredith IT Training and Development Officer Law Faculty University of Oxford phone 01865 271499 (direct)

RE: cited pages
Author:    Posted: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:33:13 -0500 (
Okay- point taken. In science we just use it so rarely, I wasn't thinking. But this is probably the answer to Sandra's query then! Leanne -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of /> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:34 AM To: /> Subject: RE: second dynamic field? Leanne, I use the CP field *All the time* (though I've disabled punctuation at the end of my citations, so I often add other stuff manually in my text). Its primary usefulness is, like everything else, the ease with which you can make global changes to a complex document. The CP field formats with the same style as the page numbers for journals/chapters/etc., so if you need to change from the 174-76 style to the 174-176 or the 174-6 you can do so at the click of a button. Michael -----Original Message----- I ... can never really understand the advantage of "cited pages" as opposed to any other text following the citation.

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