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Author: Duncan Branley    Posted: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:33:26 -0000
THE PROBLEM: Journal style guides do not often refer explicitly to a bibliographic style - they just give examples. These examples need to be compared step by step with EndNote's styles to try to get a match. ATTEMPTED SOLUTIONS The only thing I can think of doing is to mark all the styles in the style manager and then use the drop down on the toolbar to go through each one and see what it looks like. For the almost 700 styles with which EndNote comes this is not a trivial task. A SUGGESTED IMPROVEMENT TO ENDNOTE One could perhaps browse through the style manager to get a sense of the shape of the style - eg is the year in brackets immediately after the author names or at the end and not in brackets. An ideal solution would be to have a mini pick-list within EndNote to filter the styles where the order of the fields matched the order chosen (ignoring intervening fields). This could probably be done on as few as four fields: List1 List2 List3 List4 Author Title Year Publisher Author Title Publisher Year Author Year Title Publisher This might reduce the number to a third of the 700 - though I doubt that the patterns are distributed evenly. To focus this further there could then be another stage which asked for rudimentary formatting and punctuation of one or more of the fields: List1 etc Bold Italics Bracketed Single inverted commas Double " Perhaps someone has already printed out on a web page an example of all the formats and then the eye could check them quickly? If you have any alternative (and with luck better!) suggestions, please share them. Otherwise, could ISI comment on the possibility of implementing something like my outline suggestion above please. Thanks. Duncan =================================================== Duncan Branley /> Applications Officer, Information Services Goldsmiths' College, University of London New Cross, LONDON SE14 6NW Tel: +44 (0)20 7919 7708 Fax: +44 (0)20 7919 7556 ===================================================

Re: Output Style Previews
Author: Duncan Branley    Posted: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:15:21 -0000
--On 26 February 2002 11:33 +0000 Duncan Branley wrote: > THE PROBLEM: > > Journal style guides do not often refer explicitly to a bibliographic > style - they just give examples. These examples need to be compared step > by step with EndNote's styles to try to get a match. Maggie Johnston has pointed out to me the online EndNote Style Finder which does most of what I wanted: <http://www.endnote.com/support/enstylesfinder.asp> You can get to it via the Help Menu in EndNote 5 - Web Styles Finder.... Alas the link is to a page which has been moved! Sorry to trouble you - and thanks, Maggie. Duncan =================================================== Duncan Branley /> Applications Officer, Information Services Goldsmiths' College, University of London New Cross, LONDON SE14 6NW Tel: +44 (0)20 7919 7708 Fax: +44 (0)20 7919 7556 ===================================================

RE: Output Style Previews
Author: J TenHaaf    Posted: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 18:36:09 +0100
Duncan, Endote.com provides just what you are looking for at: http://www.endnote.com/support/enstyles.asp and more precisely at: http://www.endnote.com/support/enstylesfinder.asp Jeroen ten Haaf, PhD Health Sciences Librarian Maastricht University The Netherlands

Re: Output Style Previews
Author: J Virginia Benjamin    Posted: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:55:09 EST
Subject: Output Style Previews Send reply to: /> > THE PROBLEM: > > Journal style guides do not often refer explicitly to a bibliographic style > - they just give examples. These examples need to be compared step by step > with EndNote's styles to try to get a match. > > > ATTEMPTED SOLUTIONS > > The only thing I can think of doing is to mark all the styles in the style > manager and then use the drop down on the toolbar to go through each one > and see what it looks like. For the almost 700 styles with which EndNote > comes this is not a trivial task. > > > A SUGGESTED IMPROVEMENT TO ENDNOTE > > One could perhaps browse through the style manager to get a sense of the > shape of the style - eg is the year in brackets immediately after the > author names or at the end and not in brackets. > > An ideal solution would be to have a mini pick-list within EndNote to > filter the styles where the order of the fields matched the order chosen > (ignoring intervening fields). This could probably be done on as few as > four fields: > > List1 List2 List3 List4 > > Author Title Year Publisher > > Author Title Publisher Year > > Author Year Title Publisher > > This might reduce the number to a third of the 700 - though I doubt that > the patterns are distributed evenly. > > To focus this further there could then be another stage which asked for > rudimentary formatting and punctuation of one or more of the fields: > > List1 etc > > Bold > Italics > Bracketed > Single inverted commas > Double " > > Perhaps someone has already printed out on a web page an example of all the > formats and then the eye could check them quickly? > > If you have any alternative (and with luck better!) suggestions, please > share them. Otherwise, could ISI comment on the possibility of > implementing something like my outline suggestion above please. > > Thanks. > > Duncan > >

Re: Output Style Previews
Author: Duncan Branley    Posted: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:49:11 -0000
Thanks, Virginia. This and Maggie's suggestions are just what I was looking for. How humbling! I was concentrating too closely on devising another format and didn't look at a screen attentively enough which I was sure I knew. That's a salutary lesson in itself. Duncan :-) =================================================== Duncan Branley /> Applications Officer, Information Services Goldsmiths' College, University of London New Cross, LONDON SE14 6NW Tel: +44 (0)20 7919 7708 Fax: +44 (0)20 7919 7556 ===================================================

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