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Author:    Posted: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:01:13 -0500 (
Hi All Back in the summer there was quite a bit of email discussion about bugs in EndNote 8. I wonder if they have now been resolved? I see from the EndNote site that there is an update for Windows XP Service Pack 2, but nothing about bugs. We (Library staff) postponed supporting EndNote 8 because of reported problems but are planning to update all our materials sometime soon - unless there are still a lot of problems. Comments please. Thanks Helen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Helen Hathaway Team Manager Faculty of Science and Information Skills Coordinator Main Library, The University of Reading, Whiteknights, Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8779 PO Box 223, Reading RG6 6AE www.library.rdg.ac.uk ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: EndNote 8
Author:    Posted: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:14:16 -0500
With the repair, it now works just fine and is excellent. Paul Pilowsky Quoting /> > Hi All > > Back in the summer there was quite a bit of email discussion about bugs in > EndNote 8. I wonder if they have now been resolved? I see from the EndNote > site that there is an update for Windows XP Service Pack 2, but nothing about > bugs. > We (Library staff) postponed supporting EndNote 8 because of reported > problems but are planning to update all our materials sometime soon - unless > there are still a lot of problems. > Comments please. > Thanks > Helen > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Helen Hathaway > Team Manager Faculty of Science and Information Skills Coordinator > Main Library, > The University of Reading, Whiteknights, Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8779 > PO Box 223, Reading RG6 6AE > www.library.rdg.ac.uk > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Endnote 8, Word 2004 & Mac OS
Author:    Posted: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:18:53 -0500
I haven't upgraded to Endnote 8 yet given all the problems people seem to be having on the Windows version. Does anyone have experience with Endnote 8 for Mac and Word 2004? What do you think of it? Barbara

RE: EndNote 8
Author:    Posted: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:14:44 -0500
But I don't see that an update beyond the sp2 XP fix has been released yet. I assume that 8.0.2 must still be in beta testing? I don't recommend upgrading until it is on general release. Leanne -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of /> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 4:14 PM To: /> Subject: Re: EndNote 8 With the repair, it now works just fine and is excellent. Paul Pilowsky Quoting /> > Hi All > > Back in the summer there was quite a bit of email discussion about > bugs in EndNote 8. I wonder if they have now been resolved? I see from > the EndNote site that there is an update for Windows XP Service Pack > 2, but nothing about bugs. We (Library staff) postponed supporting > EndNote 8 because of reported problems but are planning to update all > our materials sometime soon - unless there are still a lot of > problems. Comments please. > Thanks > Helen > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ > Helen Hathaway > Team Manager Faculty of Science and Information Skills Coordinator > Main Library, > The University of Reading, Whiteknights, Tel: +44 (0)118 378 8779 > PO Box 223, Reading RG6 6AE > www.library.rdg.ac.uk > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

re endnote 8 on MAC
Author:    Posted: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:27:35 -0500
Does endnote 8 for the MAC still allow adding PDF files to the reference as an 'object" will it still have these I have added on endote 7 without problems with the upgrade I like many use this feature extensively and have very large PDF files referenced through endnote Richard Dr Richard P Allen Neurology and Sleep Medicine Johns Hopkins University Asthma and Allergy Bldg 1B76b ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Endnote 8 Mac - Importing from ProCite
Author:    Posted: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:30:19 -0500
I intend to switch from the discontinued ProCite (version 4.03) for the Mac to Endnote 8. Testing out the demo version of Endnote 8, however, I was not able to import a single reference from ProCite. What am I doing wrong? 1) Export marked records from ProCite in comm-delimited format 2) Importing the resulting text file into Endnote 8, using the ProCite Import filter, a progress bar appears, starts importing and then disappears, without one single reference actually being imported. I have been trying to find out in the documentation whether the demo version perhaps does not allow importing references, but could not find a trace of such limitations in the user guide. Any suggestions? Gijs Kessler International Institute of Social History Amsterdam, The Netherlands ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Endnote 8 Mac System Requirements
Author:    Posted: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:35:08 -0500
Having downloaded the demo-version of Endnote 8 for the Mac I found out to my dismay that it requires at least a G4 processor, which would rule out my iBook G3 600. Since there is no other application on the market which has such high processor requirements (even OS 1.3.6 still supports the G3 processor) I thought to give the application a try anyway, and I haven't run into any problems yet. Everything seems to be working fine. So, how serious is this requirement? Should I be safe in using Endnote 8 on this machione, or are unpleasant suprises likely to occur? Gijs Kessler International Institute of Social History Amsterdam, The Netherlands ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: EndNote 8
Author:    Posted: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:04:33 -0500
> But I don't see that an update beyond the sp2 XP fix has been > released yet. I assume that 8.0.2 must still be in beta > testing? I don't recommend upgrading until it is on general release. > Sender: /> Precedence: bulk Reply-To: /> Leanne is right, of course. The second patch (8.0.2) is due for release in January. Don't think about upgrading until it is released. John East University of Queensland Library Email: /> ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: Endnote 8 Mac - Importing from ProCite
Author:    Posted: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:02:30 -0500
I don't think you need to export from ProCite. Using the Procite import filter, you should be able to import directly from the procite data file. Leanne -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of /> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 1:30 PM To: /> Subject: Endnote 8 Mac - Importing from ProCite I intend to switch from the discontinued ProCite (version 4.03) for the Mac to Endnote 8. Testing out the demo version of Endnote 8, however, I was not able to import a single reference from ProCite. What am I doing wrong? 1) Export marked records from ProCite in comm-delimited format 2) Importing the resulting text file into Endnote 8, using the ProCite Import filter, a progress bar appears, starts importing and then disappears, without one single reference actually being imported. I have been trying to find out in the documentation whether the demo version perhaps does not allow importing references, but could not find a trace of such limitations in the user guide. Any suggestions? Gijs Kessler International Institute of Social History Amsterdam, The Netherlands ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: Endnote 8, Word 2004 & Mac OS
Author:    Posted: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:09:00 -0500
>Does anyone have experience with > Endnote 8 for Mac and Word 2004? What do you think of it? > I heard one person who had beta tested it say he was happy with it. The demo seems to work fine on my computer (Word 2004, OS X.3.6), but I only spent a couple of hours with it and have not pushed it very hard yet. I haven't noticed any bugs in Word since I installed it, but haven't really looked either. The EndNote demo is refusing to properly save my preferences, in a very annoying manner, but workaround-able. Has anybody else seen this problem, in the demo or the real program? (Preferences get reset to default every time I go into the preferences dialog) I almost forgot I meant to test BookEnds before I made my decision to purchase.... Dayo Mitchell ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Problems with EndNote 8 for Mac
Author:    Posted: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:00:04 -0500
I haven't managed to get through to EN tech support on this patter yet; so it is possible they have a good suggestion. But for the record, since a few of you asked about experiences with the new EN 8 for Mac and especially with Word 2004, I felt I should let you know. The most serious problem I have so far is that, when I start the application, it tries to start for about one second, then it quits. And there is a long delay, much longer than usual, before an alert box pops up on the screen to say "The application EndNote has unexpectedly quit". In fact, if in the meantime you have tried once or twice more, you are pestered with three occurrences of the alert dialog spread out over about 6 minutes. I have tried just double clicking the app icon and also double clicking the library icon and trying to start it from within Word using the "Go to EndNote" command in the CWYW menu; the same thing happens. The few times I have managed to make the application load and "work", I have had it hang up in the middle of formatting a relative small document with about 20 EndNote in-text citations. ------------------- Harry A. Hoffner, Jr., The John A. Wilson Professor of Hittitology Emeritus at the Univ. of Chicago. Mailing address: 8421 Creekside Ln., Darien, IL 60561. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: Problems with EndNote 8 for Mac
Author:    Posted: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:23:33 -0500
did you launch endnote alone or via word2004? diana On 18 Dec 2004, at 00:00, wrote: > I haven't managed to get through to EN tech support on this patter yet; > so it is possible they have a good suggestion. But for the record, > since a few of you asked about experiences with the new EN 8 for Mac > and especially with Word 2004, I felt I should let you know. > > The most serious problem I have so far is that, when I start the > application, it tries to start for about one second, then it quits. And > there is a long delay, much longer than usual, before an alert box pops > up on the screen to say "The application EndNote has unexpectedly > quit". In fact, if in the meantime you have tried once or twice more, > you are pestered with three occurrences of the alert dialog spread out > over about 6 minutes. I have tried just double clicking the app icon > and also double clicking the library icon and trying to start it from > within Word using the "Go to EndNote" command in the CWYW menu; the > same thing happens. > > The few times I have managed to make the application load and "work", I > have had it hang up in the middle of formatting a relative small > document with about 20 EndNote > in-text citations. > > ------------------- > Harry A. Hoffner, Jr., The John A. Wilson Professor of Hittitology > Emeritus at the Univ. of Chicago. Mailing address: 8421 Creekside Ln., > Darien, IL 60561. > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Dr. Diana Kornbrot Head of Health & Human Sciences Research Institute University of Hertfordshire College Lane, Hatfield, Hertfordshire AL10 9AB, UK voice: +44 (0) 170 728 4626 fax: +44 (0) 170 728 5073 email: /> http://www.psy.herts.ac.uk/pub/D.E.Kornbrot/hmpage.html ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Problem Formatting Output Styles EndNote 8 Mac
Author:    Posted: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:56:32 -0500
Yes, I'm having exactly the same issue formatting italics in output styles (using Endnote 8 on OS X 10.3.7). I think bold is usually working, but italic is greyed out on the Edit>Font menu, and when I click the toolbar button nothing happens. I hadn't worked out that it works if you start from scratch, but I do have some custom styles which output italics properly, even though they don't show in the preview pane. I reported this to Thomson soon after 8 for Mac was released, but haven't had any response. It seems a fairly fundamental flaw. The only workaround I can see is to use underlining and then search and replace, but of course as soon as you reformat a bibliography it reverts to underline. In response to others who've asked about Endnote 8 for Mac - I have no other major issues. I'm still working out how to control display and output fonts - apart from the problem with italics these don't always react as one might expect, and the manual doesn't offer much assistance. It runs much more slowly on my newish Powerbook than Endnote 7, but doesn't seem to crash any more (or less) often. Will > Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:55:16 -0500 (EST) > From: /> > Subject: Problem Formatting Output Styles EndNote 8 Mac > > Anybody (other than me) having the following problem? > > Just upgraded to EndNote 8 for Mac, OS 10.3.6, and using Word 2004. > > If I edit an existing output style in any way, I lose all italic and > boldface formatting (for example, book and journal titles). The > toolbar and key commands will allow me to insert/remove underlining, > but not italic and boldface. > > These commands work fine for a new style, started from scratch. But I > don't want to have to redo all my styles. (At this point, it would > have been less time than the time I've spent trying to fix this). > > Any suggestions appreciated (have I overlooked something obvious)? > > - -Jonathan -- Dr Will Sweetman Lecturer in Asian Religions Department of Theology and Religious Studies University of Otago P.O. Box 56 Dunedin New Zealand /> ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Problem Formatting Output Styles EndNote 8 Mac
Author:    Posted: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:55:16 -0500
Anybody (other than me) having the following problem? Just upgraded to EndNote 8 for Mac, OS 10.3.6, and using Word 2004. If I edit an existing output style in any way, I lose all italic and boldface formatting (for example, book and journal titles). The toolbar and key commands will allow me to insert/remove underlining, but not italic and boldface. These commands work fine for a new style, started from scratch. But I don't want to have to redo all my styles. (At this point, it would have been less time than the time I've spent trying to fix this). Any suggestions appreciated (have I overlooked something obvious)? -Jonathan ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: Problem Formatting Output Styles EndNote 8 Mac
Author:    Posted: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:03:11 -0500
One of our users had exactly this problem and it appears to be yet another bug in EndNote 8. I'm surprised that you have 10.3.6 because last time I heard from him tech support at Adept Scientific (UK dealers for EN) seemed to think this was an effect of interaction between the precise version of OS X and EndNote. I have 10.3.7 and couldn't get my setup to reproduce the problem. The user with the problem was running 10.2.6. Rosemary Rodd (LLCC, University of Cambridge) --On Monday, December 20, 2004 1:55 pm -0500 "Jonathan.David.Bobaljik[mailto", wrote: > Anybody (other than me) having the following problem? > > Just upgraded to EndNote 8 for Mac, OS 10.3.6, and using Word 2004. > > If I edit an existing output style in any way, I lose all italic and > boldface formatting (for example, book and journal titles). The > toolbar and key commands will allow me to insert/remove underlining, > but not italic and boldface. > > These commands work fine for a new style, started from scratch. But I > don't want to have to redo all my styles. (At this point, it would > have been less time than the time I've spent trying to fix this). > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: Problems with EndNote 8 for Mac
Author:    Posted: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:24:19 -0500
>I find opening endhote 8 before opening any other applications is >much faster and less likely to freeze or fail. ------------- >Kevin M. Kelly >I haven't managed to get through to EN tech support on this patter yet; >so it is possible they have a good suggestion. But for the record, >since a few of you asked about experiences with the new EN 8 for Mac >and especially with Word 2004, I felt I should let you know. > >The most serious problem I have so far is that, when I start the >application, it tries to start for about one second, then it quits. And >there is a long delay, much longer than usual, before an alert box pops >up on the screen to say "The application EndNote has unexpectedly >quit". In fact, if in the meantime you have tried once or twice more, >you are pestered with three occurrences of the alert dialog spread out >over about 6 minutes. I have tried just double clicking the app icon >and also double clicking the library icon and trying to start it from >within Word using the "Go to EndNote" command in the CWYW menu; the >same thing happens. > >The few times I have managed to make the application load and "work", I >have had it hang up in the middle of formatting a relative small >document with about 20 EndNote >in-text citations. > >------------------- >Harry A. Hoffner, Jr., The John A. Wilson Professor of Hittitology >Emeritus at the Univ. of Chicago. Mailing address: 8421 Creekside Ln., >Darien, IL 60561. > > >________________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >Security System. > >______________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: Problem Formatting Output Styles EndNote 8 Mac
Author:    Posted: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:57:06 -0500
There seems to be an icon "P" (presumably for "Plain text") on the EndNote style bar which lets you remove italic and bold. These can then be set using the I and B icons on the bar, but they don't toggle on and off as you'd expect. A "feature" rather than a bug, I suppose, but confusing. Rosemary Rodd (LLCC, University of Cambridge) --On Monday, December 20, 2004 1:55 pm -0500 "Jonathan.David.Bobaljik[mailto", wrote: > If I edit an existing output style in any way, I lose all italic and > boldface formatting (for example, book and journal titles). The > toolbar and key commands will allow me to insert/remove underlining, > but not italic and boldface. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: Problem Formatting Output Styles EndNote 8 Mac
Author:    Posted: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:03:06 -0500
on 22.12.2004 12.56 AM, wrote: > Yes, I'm having exactly the same issue formatting italics in output styles > (using Endnote 8 on OS X 10.3.7). I think bold is usually working, but > italic is greyed out on the Edit>Font menu, and when I click the toolbar > button nothing happens. Are you sure there is an Italic, Bold, and Bold Italic version of the font you are using? If not, Italic and/or Bold will be greyed out and you will have to select another font. Cheers, Troy ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Problem Formatting Output Styles EndNote 8 Mac - (largely)
Author:    Posted: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:02:17 -0500
resolved Sender: /> Precedence: bulk Reply-To: /> ISI Tech Support came through with the suggestion that the problem is the (default) font. Some fonts don't support all formatting options. In the Preferences>Display Fonts option the Library Display Font and General Display Font set to Geneva, and (apparently) Geneva doesn't support italic or bold (go figure). I changed these to a different font (I chose Arial, they suggested Times New Roman) and now the formatting works fine and displays fine in the preview pane and in Word. Hope this is useful to the others who responded. -Jonathan -- _______________________ Jonathan David Bobaljik University of Connecticut Department of Linguistics, Unit 1145 337 Mansfield Road Storrs, CT 06269-1145 USA tel: (860) 486-0153 fax: (860) 486-0197 http://bobaljik.uconn.edu/ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: Problem Formatting Output Styles EndNote 8 Mac
Author:    Posted: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:17:16 -0500
Thanks for both these mails - this explains and partially solves the problem. I was using Lucida Grande which, indeed, does not have an italic version (although it will display italics in Word, for example, but I guess this is some kind of transformation of the regular font and not a true italic font). Given that I need a Unicode font with a fairly extensive set of glyphs, the options for fonts that have an italic version is fairly limited. For those with similar needs - the best I've found thus far is Gentium (http://scripts.sil.org/gentium). This doesn't have a Bold font (but one is promised for later in 2005), but this is much less important to me. Gentium looks great in print, but isn't ideal for viewing on screen (at least in Endnote), so what I'd like for Christmas are suggestions of a Unicode font which has both Bold and Italic versions. Will > > Yes, I'm having exactly the same issue formatting italics in output > styles > > (using Endnote 8 on OS X 10.3.7). I think bold is usually working, > but > > italic is greyed out on the Edit>Font menu, and when I click the > toolbar > > button nothing happens. > > Are you sure there is an Italic, Bold, and Bold Italic version of the > font > you are using? If not, Italic and/or Bold will be greyed out and you > will > have to select another font. > > Cheers, > > Troy > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:02:17 -0500 (EST) > From: /> > Subject: Problem Formatting Output Styles EndNote 8 Mac - (largely) > > resolved > Sender: /> > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: /> > > ISI Tech Support came through with the suggestion that the problem is > the (default) font. Some fonts don't support all formatting options. > > In the Preferences>Display Fonts option the Library Display Font and > General Display Font set to Geneva, and (apparently) Geneva doesn't > support italic or bold (go figure). > > I changed these to a different font (I chose Arial, they suggested > Times New Roman) and now the formatting works fine and displays fine > in the preview pane and in Word. > > Hope this is useful to the others who responded. > > - -Jonathan > > - -- > _______________________ > Jonathan David Bobaljik > University of Connecticut > Department of Linguistics, Unit 1145 > 337 Mansfield Road > Storrs, CT 06269-1145 > USA > > tel: (860) 486-0153 > fax: (860) 486-0197 > > http://bobaljik.uconn.edu/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Upgrade to Endnote 8 a mistake
Author:    Posted: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:46:10 -0500
like an idiot I upgraded to Endnote 8 for the Mac. First time I installed it, having dragged Endnote 6 to the trash, the program crashed every time I tried to modify the Preferences with a "Service error: generic" message. Then I dragged every preference I could find in Libraries etc to the trash (after backing up most of them, I think). Now the program runs, but I can't find 15 years worth of modifications to my preferences. For 15 years this has been my "don't start your computer without it" program. I have upgraded many times, of course, and it's always been smooth. Not this time. Endnote 8 is shockingly shoddy--or the documentation is. -- Robert Wolfe Associate Professor School of Policy Studies, Queen's University, Kingston, Canada K7L 3N6 /> http://post.queensu.ca/~wolfer/ Phone (613) 533-6689 fax 533-2135 ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

very dumb question re Endnote 8 and journal abbreviations
Author:    Posted: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:13:32 -0500 (
I did this a long time ago, with an earlier version of Endnote on a different machine, but I have completely forgotten how to do the following and would appreciate help (I remember reading a FAQ on the subject, but I can't find it now): I have a library, based on Pubmed importing, in which the journal names should be formatted according to the medical journals term list (which I've successfully imported into the Journals list). The problem is that some of the entries have the full journal name in their "Journal" field, and those are now formatted correctly according to whatever bibliography style I choose (i.e. abbreviated or in full), while others have only the abbreviated version that came directly from Pubmed (e.g. "Curr Opin Genet Dev"), and even though this corresponds to the "Abbreviation 2" field of a specific journal in the term list, the program doesn't automatically convert them into the full title, or otherwise acknowledge the fact that they match an entry in the term list. Basically all my old entries, which I successfully converted to full journal titles some time ago, are behaving as desired, while newer ones (including those I import now) are not. Thanks in advance, Charlie Murtaugh University of Utah ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: very dumb question re Endnote 8 and journal abbreviations
Author:    Posted: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:32:49 -0500 (
Are you sure you have specified the appropriate Abbreviation in the style you are using? -also, it has to be an exact match, no periods/full stops, etc (I think). It should work, unless it is another endnote 8 bug.... Leanne -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of /> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 1:14 PM To: /> Subject: very dumb question re Endnote 8 and journal abbreviations I did this a long time ago, with an earlier version of Endnote on a different machine, but I have completely forgotten how to do the following and would appreciate help (I remember reading a FAQ on the subject, but I can't find it now): I have a library, based on Pubmed importing, in which the journal names should be formatted according to the medical journals term list (which I've successfully imported into the Journals list). The problem is that some of the entries have the full journal name in their "Journal" field, and those are now formatted correctly according to whatever bibliography style I choose (i.e. abbreviated or in full), while others have only the abbreviated version that came directly from Pubmed (e.g. "Curr Opin Genet Dev"), and even though this corresponds to the "Abbreviation 2" field of a specific journal in the term list, the program doesn't automatically convert them into the full title, or otherwise acknowledge the fact that they match an entry in the term list. Basically all my old entries, which I successfully converted to full journal titles some time ago, are behaving as desired, while newer ones (including those I import now) are not. Thanks in advance, Charlie Murtaugh University of Utah ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Some EndNote 8 issues
Author:    Posted: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:43:25 -0500 (
Hi: I recently alerted EndNote to the following issues with EndNote 8. Since I have just joined this list and have not seen them mentioned, they may be worthy of some discussion.... ---- Problems with the new version 8 that really MUST be fixed in a quick update!!!! [Mac version, don't know about Windoze]. 1. "Find" opens the Find window toooooo slooowly. 2. Find does NOT put the cursor in the top field, so after command-F you have to manually click in the field before typing -- this is nuts and waaayyy toooo sloooow. [Note: this only happens after setting the default find window to something reasonable: I like "Author and Year and Any Field". Since this is the way EVERYONE I know likes to have their default searches set, perhaps this should also be EndNote's default!!!?!!]. 3. The new "link to PDF" field does NOT link!!! If you paste a URL in there, you can't just click on it to get to the URL/pdf. You have to paste it in the URL field to get this function. This is regardless of whether it is a local file (file://localhost/Volumes/...) or an actual URL (http://www.dfrc.ars.usda.gov/...). 4. The contextual menu (right-click) has disappeared from the URL field. This means that you can't do a "link to" with a right-click any more and need to do the trip up to the menu -- this is terrible for productivity! If you can't return the contextual menu, please at least give us a keyboard shortcut instead of the requirement to go to the menu. Many of the other nice contextual menus have also disappeared and are desperately needed back! 5. When you open a database, it no longer remembers how your window looked -- i.e. the widths of the fields gets set back to some default every time, so when you open a database, you have to go and fix the field widths every time before you start working. I hope you will deal quickly with all these things -- they have made working with EN 8 much less productive than EN 7!!! [Must say some nice things, though -- it looks nice, seems to work and search quickly, and the connection files are great. I am also soooo happy that you have finally fixed my previously reported bug that some searches were done very inefficiently. For example, seaching "Ralph" in Author and "Lignin" in any field used to take a long time because it did each search independently and then did the "AND" -- obviously it should have done the first (fast) author search and then looked ONLY for Lignin in any field of those found references. Whether it was really fixed or just that the database is now fully indexed, such a search is now almost instantaneous -- thanks!!] --- Look forward to comments on any of the above from EndNote (ISI-ResearchSoft) or users. Cheers, John -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Ralph US Dairy Forage Research Center, USDA-ARS and Dept. of Forestry 1925 Linden Drive West Univ. of Wisconsin, Madison Madison, WI 53706-1108 (608) 890-0071 FAX (608) 890-0076 ****Note Phone Number Changes**** E-mail: http://www.dfrc.ars.usda.gov **Let me know if you want my vCard!** Full-text Publications available directly from: http://www.dfrc.ars.usda.gov/DFRCWebPDFs/pdfIndex.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.

RE: EndNote 8 export problem: zero margins for Rich Text Format
Author:    Posted: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:59:02 -0500 (
Dear all, When I export a file using Endnote 8 to a Rich Text Format, the exported Rich Text Format file always changes its layout (differ from preview and always keep zero margins for all 4 sides). I used EN 7 but did not have this problem. Anyone have similar experience? Any available solutions? Thanks in advance! Weimin **************************************************************************** * Weimin Xi (phone) 919-962-6934 Department of Biology (fax) 919-962-6930 University of North Carolina (email) /> Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3280 USA http://www.unc.edu/~weimin **************************************************************************** * -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of /> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:43 PM To: /> Subject: Some EndNote 8 issues Hi: I recently alerted EndNote to the following issues with EndNote 8. Since I have just joined this list and have not seen them mentioned, they may be worthy of some discussion.... ---- Problems with the new version 8 that really MUST be fixed in a quick update!!!! [Mac version, don't know about Windoze]. 1. "Find" opens the Find window toooooo slooowly. 2. Find does NOT put the cursor in the top field, so after command-F you have to manually click in the field before typing -- this is nuts and waaayyy toooo sloooow. [Note: this only happens after setting the default find window to something reasonable: I like "Author and Year and Any Field". Since this is the way EVERYONE I know likes to have their default searches set, perhaps this should also be EndNote's default!!!?!!]. 3. The new "link to PDF" field does NOT link!!! If you paste a URL in there, you can't just click on it to get to the URL/pdf. You have to paste it in the URL field to get this function. This is regardless of whether it is a local file (file://localhost/Volumes/...) or an actual URL (http://www.dfrc.ars.usda.gov/...). 4. The contextual menu (right-click) has disappeared from the URL field. This means that you can't do a "link to" with a right-click any more and need to do the trip up to the menu -- this is terrible for productivity! If you can't return the contextual menu, please at least give us a keyboard shortcut instead of the requirement to go to the menu. Many of the other nice contextual menus have also disappeared and are desperately needed back! 5. When you open a database, it no longer remembers how your window looked -- i.e. the widths of the fields gets set back to some default every time, so when you open a database, you have to go and fix the field widths every time before you start working. I hope you will deal quickly with all these things -- they have made working with EN 8 much less productive than EN 7!!! [Must say some nice things, though -- it looks nice, seems to work and search quickly, and the connection files are great. I am also soooo happy that you have finally fixed my previously reported bug that some searches were done very inefficiently. For example, seaching "Ralph" in Author and "Lignin" in any field used to take a long time because it did each search independently and then did the "AND" -- obviously it should have done the first (fast) author search and then looked ONLY for Lignin in any field of those found references. Whether it was really fixed or just that the database is now fully indexed, such a search is now almost instantaneous -- thanks!!] --- Look forward to comments on any of the above from EndNote (ISI-ResearchSoft) or users. Cheers, John ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- John Ralph US Dairy Forage Research Center, USDA-ARS and Dept. of Forestry 1925 Linden Drive West Univ. of Wisconsin, Madison Madison, WI 53706-1108 (608) 890-0071 FAX (608) 890-0076 ****Note Phone Number Changes**** E-mail: http://www.dfrc.ars.usda.gov **Let me know if you want my vCard!** Full-text Publications available directly from: http://www.dfrc.ars.usda.gov/DFRCWebPDFs/pdfIndex.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: EndNote 8 export problem: zero margins for Rich Text Format
Author:    Posted: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:26:13 -0500 (
I also have a printing problem. When I try to print a Subject Bibliography from EndNote, it breaks the line on the page the same place it does on the screen even though the window in EndNote is resizable and the text wraps according to the size of the window. So, to print directly from EndNote I have to resize the Subject Bibliography window so that the lines on screen break/wrap in the same place I need them to break/wrap on the page. I'm not sure I've been very clear about this, but bottom line, there seems to be a problem with printing Subject Bibliographies directly from EndNote. Another annoying problem with the Subject Bibliography window is that I can actually resize it so that some of the buttons at the bottom of the window cover other buttons! It's easy enough to avoid doing this, in fact, when would I ever want the window that small, but it makes me wonder what other small details are wrong. -Robert Evans. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:59:02 -0500 (EST) > From: /> > Subject: RE: EndNote 8 export problem: zero margins for Rich Text Format > > Dear all, > > When I export a file using Endnote 8 to a Rich Text Format, the exported > Rich Text Format file always changes its layout (differ from preview and > always keep zero margins for all 4 sides). I used EN 7 but did not have > this problem. > > Anyone have similar experience? Any available solutions? > > Thanks in advance! > > Weimin > > **************************************************************************** > * > Weimin Xi (phone) > 919-962-6934 > Department of Biology (fax) 919-962-6930 > University of North Carolina (email) /> > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3280 USA http://www.unc.edu/~weimin > **************************************************************************** ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: very dumb question re Endnote 8 and journal abbreviations
Author:    Posted: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:28:07 -0500 (
I have also had problems with journal name formatting in EndNote 8. I was examining my journals term list and found that when there were entries for journal with similar names (e.g. "Health Care Marketer" vs "Health Care Marketer and Target Market"), and the correct match was second in the list to the similar title, the application failed to map the reference entry to the correct term list entry. It seems to choke on the similar entry. I don't recall having this problem in EndNote 6 (last version I was using) so I think it's a new bug. I have not reported it to the vendor yet but was considering it. I am still anxiously awaiting the patch that will address the other (bigger) known issue with term lists. Maybe they can address this when they fix that. Michelle Eindhoven, MLIS ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: Some EndNote 8 issues
Author:    Posted: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:25:38 -0500 (
Hi, our experiences with the Mac Version are similar: When a colleague and I tested Endnote 8 for Mac OS X, we were very interested in its Unicode capabilities. Within the first ten minutes, we had about eight error messages (COM exceptions, Service Error: Generic etc.) - I cannot remember when something like this happened last time (I guess it was with Endnote 6). Using the CWYW-feature takes endlessly. Furthermore, to convert databases into Unicode capable databases, you will have to replace some characters to use this new feature. Guess what - the "Any field" entry was pulled from the "change text" menu entry!!! Well - just got Bookends 7.7.5 for Mac OS X. All the best - Per Am 6. Jan 2005 um 8:00 Uhr schrieb endnote-interest-digest: > Subject: Some EndNote 8 issues > > Hi: > > I recently alerted EndNote to the following issues with EndNote 8. > Since I have just joined this list and have not seen them mentioned, > they may be worthy of some discussion.... > > > > - ---- > > Problems with the new version 8 that really MUST be fixed in a quick > update!!!! [Mac version, don't know about Windoze]. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

Re: Some EndNote 8 issues
Author:    Posted: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:11:18 -0500 (
Dear Per, I would be most grateful if you, and other list-subscribers who were disappointed with Endnote 8.0 for the Mac, could give a somewhat more detailed account of the features in which you found Endnote 8.0 for the Mac lacking or buggy, and on which points you find Bookends better (except for its price). I am currently testing both Endnote 8 and Bookends 7.7.5 to find a replacement for the discontinued ProCite I have always been using, and so far my negative experiences with Endnote are mainly limited to the fact that it is indeed rather slow, but then Word 2004 isn't the fastest of applications as well, and since one is still stuck with this as the only full-fledged word processor under X (Nisus etc. being so far not much more than promising), Endnote's sluggishness does not bother me too much, as long as the application does not crash too often (so far only once in the course of two days of testing). My main doubts concerning Bookends are: 1) the versatility of its CWYW features, in particular whether it is possible to have, like my discipline requires, one format for first citation in footnote, a second format for subsequent citations in footnotes, and, finally, a third format for full bibliography citations. 2) its future, considering that it will most likely never become an industry standard - my current forced migration from ProCite gives me enough of a headache not to want to repeat this once again 3) the availability of import filters and output styles; it might be easy to make them yourself, but one of the things one buys software packages like this for is saving time - can Endnote Output Styles be used in Bookends or easily modified in order to be used? Thanks a lot for your help, Best wishes, Gijs Kessler International Institute of Social History Amsterdam, The Netherlands On 6 Jan 2005, at 19:25, wrote: > Hi, > > our experiences with the Mac Version are similar: > > When a colleague and I tested Endnote 8 for Mac OS X, we were very > interested in its Unicode capabilities. > Within the first ten minutes, we had about eight error messages (COM > exceptions, Service Error: Generic etc.) - I cannot remember when > something like this happened last time (I guess it was with Endnote 6). > > Using the CWYW-feature takes endlessly. > > Furthermore, to convert databases into Unicode capable databases, you > will have to replace some characters to use this new feature. Guess > what - the "Any field" entry was pulled from the "change text" menu > entry!!! > > Well - just got Bookends 7.7.5 for Mac OS X. > > All the best - > Per > > > > > > Am 6. Jan 2005 um 8:00 Uhr schrieb endnote-interest-digest: > >> Subject: Some EndNote 8 issues >> >> Hi: >> >> I recently alerted EndNote to the following issues with EndNote 8. >> Since I have just joined this list and have not seen them mentioned, >> they may be worthy of some discussion.... >> >> >> >> - ---- >> >> Problems with the new version 8 that really MUST be fixed in a quick >> update!!!! [Mac version, don't know about Windoze]. > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: EndNote 8 - should we upgrade?
Author:    Posted: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:27:20 -0500
No, continue with EndNote 8 until all the outstanding issues have been resolved. If you upgrade, it is likely that students who have used the previous version to create EndNote Libraries will have a lot of frustrating issues. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Errol Thompson Lecturer Information Systems Massey University Private Box 756 Wellington. Phone +64 4 8012794 x6531 E-Mail: /> ----------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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