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RE: difficultes
Author: Amoakoh Gyasi-Agyei    Posted: 23/08/2001 00:45:31 GDT
Bonjour Monsieur Jean-Marie THOULON: I guess you must be very very fond of your "French language." Remember that this is a forum where people all over the World are communicating, and also remember that only few of the interest group members may have heard of the French language. Thus we recommend strongly that you try to do us some good favour by enrolling into a refresher course in "PURE ENGLISH" Language and start translating your postings into English -- the universal, golden language of our generation. Doesn't the French government provide English language courses to you at high school. If so then you should NOT vote for him the next time. Good day, -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marie THOULON Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:51 PM To: Endnote Subject: difficultes j'ai la version 3.1 3 Endnote Depuis juin 01 j'ai acquis la derniere version de Word Microsoft Office 2001 , pour Mac ( power mac G3) Je ne peux plus integrer ma bibliographie en utilisant le ' add-in" du menu outils . Un message d'erreur apparait : Erreur ! Signet non defini. Que faire ? Vous pouvez me repondre en anglais , je le comprends mais en maitrise mal l'ecriture Merci Pr Jean-Marie THOULON , Universite Cl Bernard Lyon I

RE: difficultes
Author: David L Morgan    Posted: 23/08/2001 01:57:00 GDT
Could I gently suggest as a fellow Australian that your post is out of order. He must have his reasons for writing in French, and know that he will only gets replies from French speakers. If he chooses to do that, it isnot our business. David >Bonjour Monsieur Jean-Marie THOULON: > >I guess you must be very very fond of your "French language." Remember that >this is a forum where people all over the World are communicating, and also >remember that only few of the interest group members may have heard of the >French language. Thus we recommend strongly that you try to do us some good >favour by enrolling into a refresher course in "PURE ENGLISH" Language and >start translating your postings into English -- the universal, golden >language of our generation. Doesn't the French government provide English >language courses to you at high school. If so then you should NOT vote for >him the next time. > >Good day, > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jean-Marie THOULON >Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:51 PM >To: Endnote >Subject: difficultes > > > > >j'ai la version 3.1 3 Endnote >Depuis juin 01 j'ai acquis la derniere version de Word Microsoft Office >2001 , pour Mac ( power mac G3) > Je ne peux plus integrer ma bibliographie en utilisant le ' add-in" >du menu outils . Un message d'erreur apparait : Erreur ! Signet non >defini. > Que faire ? > Vous pouvez me repondre en anglais , je le comprends mais en maitrise >mal l'ecriture Merci > Pr Jean-Marie THOULON , Universite Cl Bernard Lyon I -- _________________________________________________________ David Morgan Reader, Dept Electrical & Computer Systems Engineering, Research Director, Monash University Centre for Biomedical Engineering, Honorary Associate, Dept. Physiology, Faculty of Medicine, Nursing and Health Sciences. P. O. Box 35, Monash University Clayton, Vic, 3800, Australia. Phone (61) (3) 9905 3483, Fax (61) (3) 9905 1820

RE: difficultes
Author: David Turnbull    Posted: 23/08/2001 09:18:55 GDT
Dear Amoakoh, Xenophobia and bigotry are responsible for many wars and attrition's against people all over the world. The continuation of this sentiment by intellectuals is sad. Let us celebrate the differences between nations, whatever form that it takes, language, religion or race. Personally I like the French language, so lets see more postings in other languages. a libertarian -----Original Message----- From: Amoakoh Gyasi-Agyei Sent: 23 August 2001 00:46 To: Subject: RE: difficultes Bonjour Monsieur Jean-Marie THOULON: I guess you must be very very fond of your "French language." Remember that this is a forum where people all over the World are communicating, and also remember that only few of the interest group members may have heard of the French language. Thus we recommend strongly that you try to do us some good favour by enrolling into a refresher course in "PURE ENGLISH" Language and start translating your postings into English -- the universal, golden language of our generation. Doesn't the French government provide English language courses to you at high school. If so then you should NOT vote for him the next time. Good day, -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marie THOULON Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:51 PM To: Endnote Subject: difficultes j'ai la version 3.1 3 Endnote Depuis juin 01 j'ai acquis la derniere version de Word Microsoft Office 2001 , pour Mac ( power mac G3) Je ne peux plus integrer ma bibliographie en utilisant le ' add-in" du menu outils . Un message d'erreur apparait : Erreur ! Signet non defini. Que faire ? Vous pouvez me repondre en anglais , je le comprends mais en maitrise mal l'ecriture Merci Pr Jean-Marie THOULON , Universite Cl Bernard Lyon I

RE: difficultes
Author: Thilo Siegle    Posted: 23/08/2001 10:18:52 GDT
Dear Amoakoh Gyasi-Agyei, > I guess you must be very very fond of your "French language." 1. French is a real language, you don't have to put this expression in quotation marks. 2. Prof. Thoulon just said he understands English but is not used enough to write in, he mentioned nothing of fondness. > Thus we recommend strongly that you try to do us some good > favour by enrolling into a refresher course in "PURE ENGLISH" Language and > start translating your postings into English -- the universal, golden > language of our generation. 1. Are you entitled to speak for the whole list? It's your recommendation, just use 'I recommend...' instead. 2. For me, French is at least as golden as English. (They're both not native to me.) Just ignore French posts if it's not your language. They don't really hurt you. Regards, Thilo Siegle btw: Did your government provide courses in intercultural conversation and netiquette to you? Just asking.

RE: difficultes
Author: Frank Schirra    Posted: 23/08/2001 14:05:07 GDT
Dear Amoa...whatever, even if English is an easy language to learn and some sort of a standard on the web there is no reason to polemicize against people who are not so proficient in that language. Remember there is something else besides English. Frank ___________________________ Frank Schirra, M.D. Schepens Eye Research Institute & Harvard Medical School 20 Staniford Street Boston, MA 02114 U.S.A. e-mail: Phone: +1 (617) 912-0296 Fax: +1 (617) 912-0101 -----Original Message----- From: Behalf Of Amoakoh Gyasi-Agyei Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 19:46 To: Subject: RE: difficultes Bonjour Monsieur Jean-Marie THOULON: I guess you must be very very fond of your "French language." Remember that this is a forum where people all over the World are communicating, and also remember that only few of the interest group members may have heard of the French language. Thus we recommend strongly that you try to do us some good favour by enrolling into a refresher course in "PURE ENGLISH" Language and start translating your postings into English -- the universal, golden language of our generation. Doesn't the French government provide English language courses to you at high school. If so then you should NOT vote for him the next time. Good day, -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marie THOULON Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:51 PM To: Endnote Subject: difficultes j'ai la version 3.1 3 Endnote Depuis juin 01 j'ai acquis la derniere version de Word Microsoft Office 2001 , pour Mac ( power mac G3) Je ne peux plus integrer ma bibliographie en utilisant le ' add-in" du menu outils . Un message d'erreur apparait : Erreur ! Signet non defini. Que faire ? Vous pouvez me repondre en anglais , je le comprends mais en maitrise mal l'ecriture Merci Pr Jean-Marie THOULON , Universite Cl Bernard Lyon I

RE: difficultes
Author: Kevin Nechodom    Posted: 23/08/2001 16:29:55 GDT
Oh, my goodness! I would like you to first note that I am sending this to you directly, not through the Endnote list. That is the style of communication that I choose to use when I have an off-topic comment about a message that is in a public forum. Secondly, I choose not to respond in kind. Note that my sincere motive is the continuance of professional communication. I do not desire your enmity, but your cooperation in making this list a forum of good information. Lastly, I point you to your second sentence. "Remember that this is a forum where people all over the World are communicating..." It is, indeed, isn't it? I am typing a message from Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, to you in Adelaide, South Australia. We participate in a world-wide community. My point is that we do not all speak English. Frankly, it has taken years to understand my grandchildren in Brisbane when they are speaking, and we all, presumably, speak English! When we are out in public and are standing next to a person talking on their mobile (cell phone here in the US), we have a choice. Most often, we choose to ignore the conversation, because we can only hear one side, and it doesn't involve us anyway! That is the appropriate response in this case. If you understand French and can answer their enquiry, do so in kind; they are talking to you. Otherwise, ignore it! In the time that I've been typing this, 4 other responses have come over the list. I have no idea yet what the comments are, but I sincerely hope that this doesn't turn into a flame war about universal languages. Take care, Amoakoh, and God bless! Kevin Nechodom -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:46 PM To: Subject: RE: difficultes Bonjour Monsieur Jean Marie THOULON: I guess you must be very very fond of your "French language." Remember that this is a forum where people all over the World are communicating, and also remember that only few of the interest group members may have heard of the French language. Thus we recommend strongly that you try to do us some good favour by enrolling into a refresher course in "PURE ENGLISH" Language and start translating your postings into English the universal, golden language of our generation. Doesn't the French government provide English language courses to you at high school. If so then you should NOT vote for him the next time. Good day,

RE: difficultes
Author: Kevin Nechodom    Posted: 23/08/2001 18:20:25 GDT
Once again, I am embarrassed! I apologize for wasting the list bandwidth on an off-topic message. I really thought I was sending this directly. I don't want to perpetuate this. Kevin

Re: difficultes
Author: Jean-Marie THOULON    Posted: 24/08/2001 09:53:01 GDT
Merci pour ce forum au sujet de la langue et mes avis nuancés de beaucoup La controverse au sujet de la lanhue est normale et ne me choque pas , Il faut tolérer que tout le monde ne parle pas anglais et faire chacun un effort dans ce sens. Je fais partie d'une génération ayant fait du latin , du grexc et de l'allmend. Je me suis mis à l'anglais à 38 ans . Le résultat n'st pas bon. Il est dommage que des logiciles aussi extraordinaire que End-note que je recommande à tous , n'ai jamais été adapté en français, ou en d'autres langues et que la Société qui le diffuse en France avec un monopole , ne l'ai pas fait . JM THOULON Kevin Nechodom a *crit : > Oh, my goodness! I would like you to first note that I am sending this to you directly, > not through the Endnote list. That is the style of communication that I choose to use > when I have an off-topic comment about a message that is in a public forum. > > Secondly, I choose not to respond in kind. Note that my sincere motive is the > continuance of professional communication. I do not desire your enmity, but your > cooperation in making this list a forum of good information. > > Lastly, I point you to your second sentence. "Remember that this is a forum where > people all over the World are communicating..." It is, indeed, isn't it? I am typing a > message from Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, to you in Adelaide, South Australia. We > participate in a world-wide community. My point is that we do not all speak English. > Frankly, it has taken years to understand my grandchildren in Brisbane when they > are speaking, and we all, presumably, speak English! > > When we are out in public and are standing next to a person talking on their mobile > (cell phone here in the US), we have a choice. Most often, we choose to ignore the > conversation, because we can only hear one side, and it doesn't involve us anyway! > > That is the appropriate response in this case. If you understand French and can > answer their enquiry, do so in kind; they are talking to you. Otherwise, ignore it! > > In the time that I've been typing this, 4 other responses have come over the list. I > have no idea yet what the comments are, but I sincerely hope that this doesn't > turn into a flame war about universal languages. > > Take care, Amoakoh, and God bless! > > Kevin Nechodom > > -----Original Message----- > From: > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:46 PM > To: > Subject: RE: difficultes > > Bonjour Monsieur Jean Marie THOULON: > > I guess you must be very very fond of your "French language." Remember that > this is a forum where people all over the World are communicating, and also > remember that only few of the interest group members may have heard of the > French language. Thus we recommend strongly that you try to do us some good > favour by enrolling into a refresher course in "PURE ENGLISH" Language and > start translating your postings into English the universal, golden > language of our generation. Doesn't the French government provide English > language courses to you at high school. If so then you should NOT vote for > him the next time. > > Good day,

Re: difficultes
Author: David Glass    Posted: 24/08/2001 21:00:48 GDT
for those folks who have difficulties with the translation, I recommend http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr it's not perfect, but it will give the English-only speakers a fair idea... here is how bablefish translates this message into French: "pour ces gens qui ont des problèmes avec la traduction, je recommande http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr il n'est pas parfait, mais il donnera aux haut-parleurs de l'anglais seulement une ideal juste... voici comment le bablefish traduit ce message en francais:" Soon, these issues will be irrelevant, because we'll be able to set our computers for instant-translation. -David Glass > From: "Jean-Marie THOULON" > Reply-To: > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:53:01 +0200 > To: > Subject: Re: difficultes > > > Merci pour ce forum au sujet de la langue et mes avis nuancés de beaucoup > La controverse au sujet de la lanhue est normale et ne me choque pas , Il faut > tolérer que > tout le monde ne parle pas anglais et faire chacun un effort dans ce sens. Je > fais partie > d'une génération ayant fait du latin , du grexc et de l'allmend. Je me suis > mis à l'anglais > à 38 ans . Le résultat n'st pas bon. Il est dommage que des logiciles aussi > extraordinaire > que End-note que je recommande à tous , n'ai jamais été adapté en français, ou > en d'autres > langues et que la Société qui le diffuse en France avec un monopole , ne l'ai > pas fait . > JM THOULON > > Kevin Nechodom a *crit : > >> Oh, my goodness! I would like you to first note that I am sending this to >> you directly, >> not through the Endnote list. That is the style of communication that I >> choose to use >> when I have an off-topic comment about a message that is in a public forum. >> >> Secondly, I choose not to respond in kind. Note that my sincere motive is >> the >> continuance of professional communication. I do not desire your enmity, but >> your >> cooperation in making this list a forum of good information. >> >> Lastly, I point you to your second sentence. "Remember that this is a forum >> where >> people all over the World are communicating..." It is, indeed, isn't it? I >> am typing a >> message from Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, to you in Adelaide, South Australia. >> We >> participate in a world-wide community. My point is that we do not all speak >> English. >> Frankly, it has taken years to understand my grandchildren in Brisbane when >> they >> are speaking, and we all, presumably, speak English! >> >> When we are out in public and are standing next to a person talking on their >> mobile >> (cell phone here in the US), we have a choice. Most often, we choose to >> ignore the >> conversation, because we can only hear one side, and it doesn't involve us >> anyway! >> >> That is the appropriate response in this case. If you understand French and >> can >> answer their enquiry, do so in kind; they are talking to you. Otherwise, >> ignore it! >> >> In the time that I've been typing this, 4 other responses have come over the >> list. I >> have no idea yet what the comments are, but I sincerely hope that this >> doesn't >> turn into a flame war about universal languages. >> >> Take care, Amoakoh, and God bless! >> >> Kevin Nechodom >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:46 PM >> To: >> Subject: RE: difficultes >> >> Bonjour Monsieur Jean Marie THOULON: >> >> I guess you must be very very fond of your "French language." >> Remember that >> this is a forum where people all over the World are communicating, and also >> remember that only few of the interest group members may have heard of the >> French language. Thus we recommend strongly that you try to do us some good >> favour by enrolling into a refresher course in "PURE ENGLISH" Language and >> start translating your postings into English the universal, golden >> language of our generation. Doesn't the French government provide English >> language courses to you at high school. If so then you should NOT vote for >> him the next time. >> >> Good day, >

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