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EndNote List Announcement
Author: The Endnote Team    Posted: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:14:10 -0400
Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to a new, web-based forum format. This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what you need more quickly * Easily accessible forum archives * Ability to post clickable links * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting purposes * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering suggestions and solutions where appropriate. Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the following two forums: http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. If you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the forums, feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the Suggestions forum. We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look forward to seeing you on our new forums.

Re: EndNote List Announcement
Author: Kornbrot    Posted: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:11:41 -0400
So now we have to deal with @ separate lists Thompson thinks this ib BETTER! With friends like this.... diana On 7/4/08 22:14, "The.Endnote.Team" "The.Endnote.Team" wrote: Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to a new, web-based forum format. This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what you need more quickly * Easily accessible forum archives * Ability to post clickable links * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting purposes * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering suggestions and solutions where appropriate. Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the following two forums: http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. If you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the forums, feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the Suggestions forum. We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look forward to seeing you on our new forums. Professor Diana Kornbrot School of Psychology University of Hertfordshire College Lane, Hatfield, Hertfordshire AL10 9AB, UK email: "d.e.kornbrot" web: http://web.mac.com/kornbrot/iweb/KornbrotHome.html voice: +44 (0) 170 728 4626 fax: +44 (0) 170 728 5073 Home 19 Elmhurst Avenue London N2 0LT, UK voice: +44 (0) 208 883 3657 mobile: +44 (0) 796 890 2102 fax: +44 (0) 870 706 4997

RE: EndNote List Announcement
Author: Leanne    Posted: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:17:01 -0400
I am not used to these forums. Does it mean I have to visit the forum to see questions and answers? Or will I still be able to get them by email. If the former, - bye-bye! Leanne -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "The.Endnote.Team" Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 4:14 PM To: "Endnote-List" Subject: EndNote List Announcement Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to a new, web-based forum format. This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what you need more quickly * Easily accessible forum archives * Ability to post clickable links * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting purposes * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering suggestions and solutions where appropriate. Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the following two forums: http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. If you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the forums, feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the Suggestions forum. We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look forward to seeing you on our new forums.

Re: EndNote List Announcement
Author: Antonio Brito    Posted: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:06:10 -0400
thanks Rick, that is a great opportunity for us and our customers. I have a local group to support our customers in portugueses at : http://groups.google.com/group/picinfoendnote/topics best regards, Antonio Brito PIC Informatica ISI researchsoft Brazil reseller 2008/4/7, "The.Endnote.Team" "The.Endnote.Team" Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to a new, web-based forum format. This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what you need more quickly * Easily accessible forum archives * Ability to post clickable links * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting purposes * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering suggestions and solutions where appropriate. Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the following two forums: http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. If you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the forums, feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the Suggestions forum. We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look forward to seeing you on our new forums. -- Antonio Brito PIC Informatica tel. 0800 111 871 IM: "abrito1953"

Re: EndNote List Announcement
Author: Alain Borel    Posted: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:02:49 -0400
"The.Endnote.Team" wrote: > Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are > transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to > a new, web-based forum format. > This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. > If you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the > forums, feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the > Suggestions forum. Thanks for your message. Please, don't retire the list! At least provide a list <-> forum gateway. For offline work and searches, as well as for the convenience of storing messages at one single place, a well-organized mailbox beats a forum (or worse, several forums) by orders of magnitude. Best regards, Alain Borel Bibliothèque Scientifique Commune UNIL-EPFL BCH 2201 EPFL - SB - SCGC-BCH 1015 Lausanne, Switzerland. Tel.: +41 21 693 9800 Fax.: +41 21 693 9805 e-mail: "alain.borel" http://biscom.epfl.ch

RE: EndNote List Announcement
Author: TS USA    Posted: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:59:42 -0400
Hello Leanne, You can actually subscribe for email delivery to a message, a thread, or a board (I've just asked the folks who set up the forums for us to add 'board' as an option, which should happen tomorrow). The delivery options are immediate, daily digest, or weekly digest, very similar to what's available for the current listserv. There are more options available in terms of delivery format and such, but all in all the experience should be very similar to the current listserv. The only drawback I can see over the current listserv is the inability to post a message via email, you would need to go to the forum itself to do so. The plus is that this is a persistent, searchable online forum that new members will be able to view in their entirety, which allow for content file sharing and instant posting without having to wait for a moderator to send messages through. In order to subscribe to a message, while viewing the message click on "Options" menu in the upper right and choose "Add this Message to my Subscriptions". To subscribe to a thread, while viewing a thread click on "Thread Options" in the upper left and choose "Add this Thread to my Subscriptions". The same thing will be available under "Board Options" soon. Additionally, RSS feeds are available in the same way, as a "Subscribe to this Thread's RSS Feed" option in the same menu. Rick Meyler Manager of Technical Support Global Customer Support Thomson Scientific -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "Wiedemann" Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:17 AM To: "Endnote-Interest" Subject: RE: EndNote List Announcement I am not used to these forums. Does it mean I have to visit the forum to see questions and answers? Or will I still be able to get them by email. If the former, - bye-bye! Leanne -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "The.Endnote.Team" Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 4:14 PM To: "Endnote-List" Subject: EndNote List Announcement Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to a new, web-based forum format. This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what you need more quickly * Easily accessible forum archives * Ability to post clickable links * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting purposes * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering suggestions and solutions where appropriate. Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the following two forums: http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. If you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the forums, feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the Suggestions forum. We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look forward to seeing you on our new forums.

RE: EndNote List Announcement
Author: Barb Library    Posted: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:57:36 -0400
This is sad news. I read the emails, I am unlikely to go to a forum, connect and read, just too time consuming. Oh well. Barb Anderson Medical Librarian The Cleveland Clinic Alumni Library 9500 Euclid Ave. Cleveland, OH 44195 "andersb3" voice: 216-445-7347 fax: 216-444-0271 > -----Original Message----- > From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf > Of "The.Endnote.Team" > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:14 PM > To: "Endnote-List" > Subject: EndNote List Announcement > > Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: > > > > Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are > transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to a > new, web-based forum format. > > > > This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: > > > > * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what you > need more quickly > > > > * Easily accessible forum archives > > > > * Ability to post clickable links > > > > * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting > purposes > > > > * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion > > > > ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be > monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering > suggestions and solutions where appropriate. > > > > Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the > following two forums: > > http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote > > http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb > > > > This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. If > you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the forums, > feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the > Suggestions forum. > > > > We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look > forward to seeing you on our new forums. > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail Cleveland Clinic is ranked one of the top hospitals in America by U.S. News & World Report (2007). Visit us online at http://www.clevelandclinic.org for a complete listing of our services, staff and locations. Confidentiality Note: This message is intended for use only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. Thank you.

Re: EndNote List Announcement
Author: Benjamin Barrett    Posted: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:52:26 -0400
I would have no interest in an online forum, either. I'm happy to create a Google Group, though I think it should be someone who has more involvement. I rarely use EndNote anymore. Benjamin Barrett a cyberbreath for language life livinglanguages.wordpress.com On Apr 8, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Library wrote: > This is sad news. I read the emails, I am unlikely to go to a forum, > connect and read, just too time consuming. Oh well. > > Barb Anderson > Medical Librarian > The Cleveland Clinic Alumni Library > 9500 Euclid Ave. > Cleveland, OH 44195 > > "andersb3" > voice: 216-445-7347 > fax: 216-444-0271 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "listmaster" > "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf >> Of "The.Endnote.Team" >> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:14 PM >> To: "Endnote-List" >> Subject: EndNote List Announcement >> >> Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: >> >> >> >> Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are >> transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format >> to > a >> new, web-based forum format. >> >> >> >> This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: >> >> >> >> * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what > you >> need more quickly >> >> >> >> * Easily accessible forum archives >> >> >> >> * Ability to post clickable links >> >> >> >> * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting >> purposes >> >> >> >> * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion >> >> >> >> ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be >> monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering >> suggestions and solutions where appropriate. >> >> >> >> Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the >> following two forums: >> >> http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote >> >> http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb >> >> >> >> This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. > If >> you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the > forums, >> feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the >> Suggestions forum. >> >> >> >> We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look >> forward to seeing you on our new forums. >> > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > Cleveland Clinic is ranked one of the top hospitals in America by U.S. > News & World Report (2007). > Visit us online at http://www.clevelandclinic.org for a complete > listing of our services, staff and locations. > > > Confidentiality Note: This message is intended for use only by the > individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not > the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for > delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and > destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. > Thank you. >

Re: RE: EndNote List Announcement
Author:    Posted: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:57:38 -0400
Ditto It is so easy to scan emails. I don't object to Thomson providing a good searchable interface so people can search for answers to issues, or for blog options if people like that, but I do not have time for blogs, wikis and the like. Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anderson" Date: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 8:35 am Subject: RE: EndNote List Announcement To: "Endnote-Interest" > This is sad news. I read the emails, I am unlikely to go > to a forum, > connect and read, just too time consuming. Oh well. > > Barb Anderson > Medical Librarian > The Cleveland Clinic Alumni Library > 9500 Euclid Ave. > Cleveland, OH 44195 > > "andersb3" > voice: 216-445-7347 > fax: 216-444-0271 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "listmaster" > "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf > > Of "The.Endnote.Team" > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:14 PM > > To: "Endnote-List" > > Subject: EndNote List Announcement > > > > Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: > > > > > > > > Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are > > transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email > format to > a > > new, web-based forum format. > > > > > > > > This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: > > > > > > > > * Categorized > & fully searchable posts to help you find what > you > > need more quickly > > > > > > > > * Easily > accessible forum archives > > > > > > > > * Ability to > post clickable links > > > > > > > > * Image > posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting > > purposes > > > > > > > > * Private > messaging for "off-line" discussion > > > > > > > > ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support > will be > > monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be > offering > > suggestions and solutions where appropriate. > > > > > > > > Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one > of the > > following two forums: > > > > http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote > > > > http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb > > > > > > > > This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we > transition.If > > you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the > forums, > > feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the > > Suggestions forum. > > > > > > > > We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, > and look > > forward to seeing you on our new forums. > > > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > Cleveland Clinic is ranked one of the top hospitals in America > by U.S. > News & World Report (2007). > Visit us online at http://www.clevelandclinic.org for a complete > listingof our services, staff and locations. > > > Confidentiality Note: This message is intended for use > only by the > individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from > disclosureunder applicable law. If the reader of this > message is not the intended > recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the > message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictlyprohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please > contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its > entirety,whether electronic or hard copy. Thank you. > Health Sciences Liaison Librarian Southern Cross University P.O. Box 157 Lismore, NSW AUSTRALIA 2480 Tel (02) 66203538

Re: EndNote List Announcement+Zotera
Author: Kornbrot    Posted: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:58:44 -0400
Me too Lists have MANY advantages for busy people, can't they be run on parallel Also there are a zillion forums, making it even more onerous Many might like to know about Zotero www.zotero.org/ Seems to do everything that endnote does, including plug-in for WORD and much easier download of current viewed web page Will have fewer styles - but relatively easy to make one's own Best diana On 8/4/08 22:57, "Anderson" "Anderson" wrote: This is sad news. I read the emails, I am unlikely to go to a forum, connect and read, just too time consuming. Oh well. Barb Anderson Medical Librarian The Cleveland Clinic Alumni Library 9500 Euclid Ave. Cleveland, OH 44195 "andersb3" voice: 216-445-7347 fax: 216-444-0271 > -----Original Message----- > From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf > Of "The.Endnote.Team" > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:14 PM > To: "Endnote-List" > Subject: EndNote List Announcement > > Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: > > > > Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are > transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to a > new, web-based forum format. > > > > This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: > > > > * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what you > need more quickly > > > > * Easily accessible forum archives > > > > * Ability to post clickable links > > > > * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting > purposes > > > > * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion > > > > ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be > monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering > suggestions and solutions where appropriate. > > > > Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the > following two forums: > > http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote > > http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb > > > > This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. If > you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the forums, > feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the > Suggestions forum. > > > > We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look > forward to seeing you on our new forums. > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail Cleveland Clinic is ranked one of the top hospitals in America by U.S. News & World Report (2007). Visit us online at http://www.clevelandclinic.org for a complete listing of our services, staff and locations. Confidentiality Note: This message is intended for use only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Professor Diana Kornbrot email: "d.e.kornbrot" web: http://web.mac.com/kornbrot/iweb/KornbrotHome.html Work School of Psychology University of Hertfordshire College Lane, Hatfield, Hertfordshire AL10 9AB, UK voice: +44 (0) 170 728 4626 mobile: +44 (0) 796 890 2102 fax +44 (0) 170 728 5073 Home 19 Elmhurst Avenue London N2 0LT, UK landline: +44 (0) 208 883 3657 mobile: +44 (0) 796 890 2102 fax: +44 (0) 870 706 4997 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------

EndNote List Announcement
Author: PASCALE AG/5040    Posted: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:21:46 -0400
A pity. Afraid I'm going to have to tune out for a while then. Will surely miss that daily email. Having to go to the website, creating an account AGAIN, having to scroll through all the screens (even if it is for subscribing to the list). Too time consuming I'm afraid. It will be a while before I find the time to actually get to that. It's a pity (but understandable) you can't just keep the listserv in place next to your newly built forum.... regards, pascale - -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "The.Endnote.Team" Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 4:14 PM To: "Endnote-List" Subject: EndNote List Announcement Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to a new, web-based forum format. This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what you need more quickly * Easily accessible forum archives * Ability to post clickable links * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting purposes * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering suggestions and solutions where appropriate. Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the following two forums: http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. If you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the forums, feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the Suggestions forum. We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look forward to seeing you on our new forums. ------------------------------ End of endnote-interest-digest V1 #2447 *************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- This e-mail message may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and is intended to be received only by persons entitled to receive such information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. Please delete it and all attachments from any servers, hard drives or any other media. Other use of this e-mail by you is strictly prohibited. All e-mails and attachments sent and received are subject to monitoring, reading and archival by Monsanto, including its subsidiaries. The recipient of this e-mail is solely responsible for checking for the presence of "Viruses" or other "Malware". Monsanto, along with its subsidiaries, accepts no liability for any damage caused by any such code transmitted by or accompanying this e-mail or any attachment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------

RE: RE: EndNote List Announcement
Author: Gates Peter    Posted: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:45:52 -0400
BUT wouldn't it be even better if the software was so good and the HELP was so efficient that people didn't need to keep asking questions about how to get it to do things. Now there's a challenge for the producers. Peter *************************** Dr Peter Gates School of Education The University of Nottingham Nottingham NG8 1BB Tel: +44 115 951 4432 (Direct line) Tel: +44 773 0808 353 (Mobile) *************************** -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of "janice.knopke" Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:58 PM To: "Endnote-Interest" Subject: Re: RE: EndNote List Announcement Ditto It is so easy to scan emails. I don't object to Thomson providing a good searchable interface so people can search for answers to issues, or for blog options if people like that, but I do not have time for blogs, wikis and the like. Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anderson" Date: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 8:35 am Subject: RE: EndNote List Announcement To: "Endnote-Interest" > This is sad news. I read the emails, I am unlikely to go to a forum, > connect and read, just too time consuming. Oh well. > > Barb Anderson > Medical Librarian > The Cleveland Clinic Alumni Library > 9500 Euclid Ave. > Cleveland, OH 44195 > > "andersb3" > voice: 216-445-7347 > fax: 216-444-0271 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "listmaster" > "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf > > Of "The.Endnote.Team" > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:14 PM > > To: "Endnote-List" > > Subject: EndNote List Announcement > > > > Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: > > > > > > > > Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are > > transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email > format to > a > > new, web-based forum format. > > > > > > > > This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: > > > > > > > > * Categorized > & fully searchable posts to help you find what you > > need more quickly > > > > > > > > * Easily > accessible forum archives > > > > > > > > * Ability to > post clickable links > > > > > > > > * Image > posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting > > purposes > > > > > > > > * Private > messaging for "off-line" discussion > > > > > > > > ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support > will be > > monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be > offering > > suggestions and solutions where appropriate. > > > > > > > > Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one > of the > > following two forums: > > > > http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote > > > > http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb > > > > > > > > This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we > transition.If > > you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the > forums, > > feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the > > Suggestions forum. > > > > > > > > We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, > and look > > forward to seeing you on our new forums. > > > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > Cleveland Clinic is ranked one of the top hospitals in America by U.S. > News & World Report (2007). > Visit us online at http://www.clevelandclinic.org for a complete > listingof our services, staff and locations. > > > Confidentiality Note: This message is intended for use > only by the > individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from > disclosureunder applicable law. If the reader of this > message is not the intended > recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the > message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictlyprohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please > contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its > entirety,whether electronic or hard copy. Thank you. > Health Sciences Liaison Librarian Southern Cross University P.O. Box 157 Lismore, NSW AUSTRALIA 2480 Tel (02) 66203538 This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.

Re: EndNote List Announcement
Author: Jessica Eustace    Posted: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:48:32 -0400
I agree I just dont have timne this allows me a quick scan mechanism on my mail going to the forum is just not time effective for me. "Benjamin.Barrett" wrote: > I would have no interest in an online forum, either. I'm happy to > create a Google Group, though I think it should be someone who has > more involvement. I rarely use EndNote anymore. > > Benjamin Barrett > a cyberbreath for language life > livinglanguages.wordpress.com > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Library wrote: > > >> This is sad news. I read the emails, I am unlikely to go to a forum, >> connect and read, just too time consuming. Oh well. >> >> Barb Anderson >> Medical Librarian >> The Cleveland Clinic Alumni Library >> 9500 Euclid Ave. >> Cleveland, OH 44195 >> >> "andersb3" >> voice: 216-445-7347 >> fax: 216-444-0271 >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "listmaster" >>> >> "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf >> >>> Of "The.Endnote.Team" >>> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:14 PM >>> To: "Endnote-List" >>> Subject: EndNote List Announcement >>> >>> Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: >>> >>> >>> >>> Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are >>> transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format >>> to >>> >> a >> >>> new, web-based forum format. >>> >>> >>> >>> This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: >>> >>> >>> >>> * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what >>> >> you >> >>> need more quickly >>> >>> >>> >>> * Easily accessible forum archives >>> >>> >>> >>> * Ability to post clickable links >>> >>> >>> >>> * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting >>> purposes >>> >>> >>> >>> * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion >>> >>> >>> >>> ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be >>> monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering >>> suggestions and solutions where appropriate. >>> >>> >>> >>> Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the >>> following two forums: >>> >>> http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote >>> >>> http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb >>> >>> >>> >>> This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. >>> >> If >> >>> you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the >>> >> forums, >> >>> feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the >>> Suggestions forum. >>> >>> >>> >>> We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and >>> look >>> > > >>> forward to seeing you on our new forums. >>> >>> >> >> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail >> >> Cleveland Clinic is ranked one of the top hospitals in America by U.S. >> News & World Report (2007). >> Visit us online at http://www.clevelandclinic.org for a complete >> listing of our services, staff and locations. >> >> >> Confidentiality Note: This message is intended for use only by the >> individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from >> disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is >> not >> > > >> the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for >> delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby >> notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this >> communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this >> communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and >> destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. >> > > >> Thank you. >> >> > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Jessica Eustace SFI Research Support Librarian Hamilton Library Trinity College Dublin College Street Dublin 2 tel: +353 1 896 2398 email: "eustacj" Skype: "eustacj"

RE: EndNote List Announcement (use the forum--or roll your
Author: John Booth    Posted: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:40:38 -0400
own!) Sender: "listmaster" Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "endnote-interest" At 4/8/2008 05:57 PM -0400, you wrote: This is sad news. I read the emails, I am unlikely to go to a forum, connect and read, just too time consuming. Oh well. Barb Anderson Medical Librarian The Cleveland Clinic Alumni Library 9500 Euclid Ave. Cleveland, OH 44195 Hi Barb, I'm replying to your note as it was pretty typical of many comments in postings to this list so far. I'd like to offer a brief reply to all those who have been--shall I say hesitant?--to the idea of a form, and who have stated that one doesn't have time to log into such a forum. First, and as background, I've been working with list servers and fora since just about the day they first started in the personal computer area (almost 25 years now!), and I have made my experiences with many types of community communication setups (LANS, Chat software, Internet Voice over IP) etc. Although I've only just gotten started with EndNote, I can see that a forum would be better for me: I don't have time to weed through all the messages that this list server generates. (No finger wagging here, folks!) Since I first enrolled in this forum (March 12), there have been 104 postings. That makes 31 days--for an average of 3.2+ postings per day. (Of course, some days, go "empty," and some have avalanches (11 postings for 17 March, 12 for 4 April). However, only two postings have been of interest to me: the one on Zotero, and the one dealing with Google Scholar--which was in response to a posting of mine and Kath. For me, to have to access this mailbox every day when something drops into the basket, and to find that about 2% of the postings meet my interest is a kind of waste of my time. However, by going to the web forum (its setup seems to be pretty clean--there are fours sections, 1) EndNote General, 2) How to, 3) Styles, Filters, and connections, and 4) product suggestions), I can quickly look into the area I'm interested in, or I can post a question (same thing here, except the postings in this list don't get "clotted" into theme areas as easily. Another aspect: the forum allows one to tag all postings in a forum section to "read"--which lets me know immediately what is new or not. And: the discussion threads are easier to follow. Do you really need to stay on top of all postings about EndNote *as* they drop in? I can imagine that some folks that are really into EndNote might prefer that. However, for users that are interested in specific answers to specific questions, I think the forum concept offers a viable alternative. I am subscribed to private and university-collegiate (private list for profs) platforms, and I would hate to lose the spontaneous communication they offer. However, if I were to subscribe to a list server that was devoted to say, use of Word or Excel, I'd go bananas: too much input!! I don't see any reason why folks couldn't start up a yahoo or google list server for EndNote issues. For my purposes though, I'd say the forum may be the better answer for me. And one more comment if I may: we can already see the moaning and groaning about the forum concept (although there have been positive responses too). However, once one has read about the pros and cons, I'm sure the comments will still be coming in. With the forum concept, I can choose to read that stuff or not--as the threads are pretty transparent. So, as the subject line sez: you have the choice! You can use the new forum, or you can roll your own! Sounds like a win-win situation to me! FWIW Best to you all. -- John

RE EndNote List Announcement
Author:    Posted: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:46:34 -0400
Useful development! I will appreciate finding answers immediately linked to question. And to be able to open only those topics I am interested in. Robert Aubin Bibliothécaire consultant Agence d'évaluation des technologies et des modes d'intervention en santé 2021, avenue Union, bureau 10.083 Montréal (Québec) H3A 2S9 Téléphone: (514) 873-2563 Télécopieur: (514) 873-1369 Courriel: "Robert.Aubin" "The.Endnote.Team" Envoyé par : "listmaster" 2008-04-07 17:14 Veuillez répondre à "endnote-interest" A "Endnote-List" cc Objet EndNote List Announcement Greetings, EndNote Discussion List Subscribers: Thomson ResearchSoft has some exciting news for you. We are transitioning this list from a traditional "list-serv" email format to a new, web-based forum format. This new format will allow for many great new features, such as: * Categorized & fully searchable posts to help you find what you need more quickly * Easily accessible forum archives * Ability to post clickable links * Image posting for screen shots & other troubleshooting purposes * Private messaging for "off-line" discussion ...and more! As before, Thomson Scientific Technical Support will be monitoring posts for spam and abuse. They will also be offering suggestions and solutions where appropriate. Feel free to begin creating your accounts and logging on one of the following two forums: http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNote http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board?board.id=EndNoteWeb This list will remain active until May 7th, 2008 while we transition. If you have questions about the transition, or improvements for the forums, feel free to post them to the EndNote Interest-List or on the Suggestions forum. We hope you're as excited about these new options as we are, and look forward to seeing you on our new forums.

Re: EndNote List Announcement (use the forum--or roll your
Author: Alain Borel    Posted: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:54:32 -0400
John.Booth "jbooth" wrote: > Although I've only just gotten started with EndNote, I can see that a > forum would be better for me: I don't have time to weed through all > the messages that this list server generates. (No finger wagging here, > folks!) Since I first enrolled in this forum (March 12), there have > been 104 postings. That makes 31 days--for an average of 3.2+ postings > per day. (Of course, some days, go "empty," and some have avalanches > (11 postings for 17 March, 12 for 4 April). However, only two postings > have been of interest to me: the one on Zotero, and the one dealing > with Google Scholar--which was in response to a posting of mine and Kath. > > For me, to have to access this mailbox every day when something drops > into the basket, and to find that about 2% of the postings meet my > interest is a kind of waste of my time. However, by going to the web > forum (its setup seems to be pretty clean--there are fours sections, > 1) EndNote General, 2) How to, 3) Styles, Filters, and connections, > and 4) product suggestions), I can quickly look into the area I'm > interested in, or I can post a question (same thing here, except the > postings in this list don't get "clotted" into theme areas as easily. All right, then a forum is better for your needs, I can appreciate that. Some of us have a different feeling. I for one subscribe to many mailing lists, and the fact that I receive all messages, conveniently sorted in mailboxes by carefully constructed rules is a life saver. If I had to visit dozens of forums I would go nuts. And for those who would suggest that an RSS feed is an adequate answer: I don't think so. How do you reply to an RSS item? > Another aspect: the forum allows one to tag all postings in a forum > section to "read"--which lets me know immediately what is new or not. > And: the discussion threads are easier to follow. Threading and tagging have been features of mail readers for years. Plus sorting according to whatever criterium you want. Plus custom subfolder creation. Plus structured searches. > Do you really need to stay on top of all postings about EndNote *as* > they drop in? I can imagine that some folks that are really into > EndNote might prefer that. However, for users that are interested in > specific answers to specific questions, I think the forum concept > offers a viable alternative. I agree, offering a forum is a valuable propostion. But removing the mailing list isn't! > I am subscribed to private and university-collegiate (private list for > profs) platforms, and I would hate to lose the spontaneous > communication they offer. However, if I were to subscribe to a list > server that was devoted to say, use of Word or Excel, I'd go bananas: too much input!! Fine, don't. It doesn't make it so for everybody else. > I don't see any reason why folks couldn't start up a yahoo or google > list server for EndNote issues. Because we have this list that's working nicely, thank you very much? > So, as the subject line sez: you have the choice! You can use the new > forum, or you can roll your own! Sounds like a win-win situation to me! As far as I am concerned, the only win-win situation is to have a forum with a bi-directional mail gateway. Otherwise someone will get frustrated! And splitting the discussions into one forum and a completely unrelated mailing list is certainly not a good solution. Best regards, Alain Borel Bibliothèque Scientifique Commune UNIL-EPFL BCH 2201 EPFL - SB - SCGC-BCH 1015 Lausanne, Switzerland. Tel.: +41 21 693 9800 Fax.: +41 21 693 9805 e-mail: "alain.borel" http://biscom.epfl.ch

Re: EndNote List Announcement (use the forum--or roll your
Author: Troy Sagrillo    Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:55:12 -0400
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:54 PM, <Alain.Borel> wrote: > And for those who would suggest that an RSS feed is an adequate answer: > I don't think so. How do you reply to an RSS item? you don't. But you can see if you want to even bother with going to the forum to reply. Best Troy

Re: EndNote List Announcement (use the forum--or roll your
Author: Alain Borel    Posted: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:56:36 -0400
Troy.Sagrillo "sagrillo.lists" wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:54 PM, <Alain.Borel> wrote: > >> And for those who would suggest that an RSS feed is an adequate > answer: >> I don't think so. How do you reply to an RSS item? > > you don't. But you can see if you want to even bother with going to > the forum to reply. Which is exactly why I want the list to continue and will not be happy with an RSS feed replacement: using e-mail, there's no need to go anywhere to reply. I'm already where I need to be. Once again, the solution as I see it: a mailing list + a forum, with a bi-directional gateway in between. Everybody wins. Best regards, Alain Borel Bibliothèque Scientifique Commune UNIL-EPFL BCH 2201 EPFL - SB - SCGC-BCH 1015 Lausanne, Switzerland. Tel.: +41 21 693 9800 Fax.: +41 21 693 9805 e-mail: "alain.borel" http://biscom.epfl.ch

Re: EndNote List Announcement (use the forum--or roll your
Author: G Wood    Posted: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:44:37 -0400
On 4/16/08 11:56 AM, "Alain.Borel "alain.borel" wrote: > Once again, the solution as I see it: a mailing list + a forum, with a > bi-directional gateway in between. Everybody wins. And this is very common (in fact, maybe the norm). I simply do not use web forums. Period. They take too many resources (time, another application open, usernames, passwords, clutter, ads, etc.) from me. In a recent poll on a site I operate, the Number 1 complaint that users had about other sites was their reliance on web forums. The software is usually very bad, and at the least, not consistent across sites (we have to learn not only new usernames/passwords, but also must learn to use dozens of different fora software, different layouts, etc.) If this list were not set-up to be 'moderated', then there would not be any need for human management on a daily basis. I have never understood why this EndNote list had to have messages approved in the first place. That's an unneeded tax on time for someone...list software is very mature. But, alas, there was no gathering of data from this list (do you want a forum?) and so we are just told that the list is being replaced. That's not customer service, really. There are no mentions of why this change is made, what is hoped to be gained from it or anything. Of what I've read, the reasons are false: mailing lists provide archives, so that argument is moot; lists provide human-free management, so, again, moot. I'm very discouraged by this change, and simply will not visit the web forum.

RE: EndNote List Announcement (use the forum--or roll your
Author: Matt Holland    Posted: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:48:54 -0400
... and OpenID [ http://openid.net/ ] too. Best Wishes Matt -----Original Message----- From: "listmaster" "mailto:listmaster" On Behalf Of Alain.Borel "alain.borel" Sent: 16 April 2008 16:57 To: "Endnote-Interest" Subject: Re: EndNote List Announcement (use the forum--or roll your Troy.Sagrillo "sagrillo.lists" wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:54 PM, <Alain.Borel> wrote: > >> And for those who would suggest that an RSS feed is an adequate > answer: >> I don't think so. How do you reply to an RSS item? > > you don't. But you can see if you want to even bother with going to > the forum to reply. Which is exactly why I want the list to continue and will not be happy with an RSS feed replacement: using e-mail, there's no need to go anywhere to reply. I'm already where I need to be. Once again, the solution as I see it: a mailing list + a forum, with a bi-directional gateway in between. Everybody wins. Best regards, Alain Borel Bibliothèque Scientifique Commune UNIL-EPFL BCH 2201 EPFL - SB - SCGC-BCH 1015 Lausanne, Switzerland. Tel.: +41 21 693 9800 Fax.: +41 21 693 9805 e-mail: "alain.borel" http://biscom.epfl.ch

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