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Asian language characters from EN7 PPC to EN8 MAC
Author:    Posted: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:38:49 -0400
A friend of mine is changing from Endnote 7 on a PC to Endnote 8 on a Mac, partly because of the advantages of Unicode, but EN8 is not recognising the Chinese characters in references he has in EN7 for PC. What happens when he imports references is that the English characters are fine but the Chinese characters are squares. The Chinese characters were entered originally using the standard Windows XP Chinese font. (They are readable in Office for Mac 2004.) Is there a way of developing a translator of some sort to recognise the characters as they move across to Unicode? Thanks in anticipation, Ross Langmead ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: Asian language characters from EN7 PPC to EN8 MAC
Author:    Posted: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:19:05 -0400
I've always had huge problems transferring non-Latin characters (i.e., everything except a-z, A-Z, and common punctuation) between platforms. The Unicode standard was partly designed to address this, but I presume that your WinXP Chinese font is not Unicode. Do you have access to En.8(.0.2) for Windows? If so, that might be a first step (its Unicode functions are now passable), as at least the font will still read. Otherwise, you might be able to export your en.7 library in a format which can be imported into en.8 (e.g., xml), and open it in a program (e.g., Excel) which can find non-Unicode characters in one font and replace them with Unicode characters in another. Downside: you'll probably lose record-numbers this way. Either way, the change is mainly manual; these suggestions just make it a little easier. You could, I suppose, write some VBA script in excel to automate the change, but it would likely be more trouble than it's worth. M -----Original Message----- From: /> On Behalf Of /> Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 3:39 AM To: /> Subject: Asian language characters from EN7 PPC to EN8 MAC A friend of mine is changing from Endnote 7 on a PC to Endnote 8 on a Mac, partly because of the advantages of Unicode, but EN8 is not recognising the Chinese characters in references he has in EN7 for PC. What happens when he imports references is that the English characters are fine but the Chinese characters are squares. The Chinese characters were entered originally using the standard Windows XP Chinese font. (They are readable in Office for Mac 2004.) Is there a way of developing a translator of some sort to recognise the characters as they move across to Unicode? Thanks in anticipation, Ross Langmead ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

RE: Asian language characters from EN7 PPC to EN8 MAC
Author:    Posted: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:23:11 -0400
Michael is wright. One splendid thing is that EndNote(Mac) finally begun to support Unicode with UTF-8 file with BOM (Byte Order Marker) from EndNote8(Mac). <http://www.endnote.com/pr-en8mac.asp>http://www.endnote.com/pr-en8mac.asp You now have right to get official support once you have made an text database file which can be imported into en.8 (ie. endnote export) that can be imported to EndNote8(Mac). In 'EndNote8_Mac_Manual.pdf' (scan for UTF) <http://www.endnote.com/support/ensupport.asp>http://www.endnote.com/support/ensupport.asp >'NOTE: To allow for the appropriate import of Unicode characters, >save TextEdit files as "Western (Mac OS Roman)," and save >Microsoft Word files as "Unicode Text (UTF-8)." If the >appropriate option does not appear on the Save dialog, you can >first select it under Preferences.' but 'MS word 2004' only supports Unicode Text(UTF-16)! Bothering. Q1. How can we make UTF-8 file with BOM on Mac? >BOM with UTF-8 is a Windows abomination. TextEdit can save UTF-8 but without BOM. This is Apple's official answer. Its not easy, and Thomson ResearchSoft does not provide any answers in their FAQ. http://www.endnote.com/support/faqs/enfaqMacWord.asp Contacting technical support may give you some help. Don't be afraid. There are several ways to overcome this problem. http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?50@ /> http://lists.adeptscience.co.uk/endnote/endnote_Apr_2005/thid_5252677497e6e5baf5df78be21eac653.html Q2. How to make UTF-8 database file from older versions? Thomson ResearchSoft did not used to support Asian fonts before, so it is up to your responsibility to use Asian fonts before EndNote8(Mac) and export your database in a file which can be imported into en.8 (ie. endnote export). But my EndNote6(Mac) only exported a file with irregular (Asian) fonts that can not easily be converted to UTF-8 file! This is probably one reason that Thomson ResearchSoft refused to support Asian fonts before EndNote8(Mac). Some exported files could not be opened with TextEdit! TextEdit can be used on a few records when several irregular (Asian) fonts were present. When I succeeded to convert files to UTF-8 with other text editor, files with tens of lines to UTF-8 file often resulted in garbled characters. Conversion on PC might be something better, but I don't know. Skillful local Asian distributors may help you converting these irregular Asian fonts to UTF-8 files. If you have less than 100 records with Asian fonts, you may be happier to copy each exported reference, one by one. Q3. Why field changed for 'Newspaper Article' , 'Conference Proceedings'? ??? Q4. How to show imported Asian names with full 'Surname Family name' in the list? ??? --tatu __________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Upgrade Your Life http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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